rmc523 Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 https://www.autoblog.com/2021/01/21/2021-buick-envision-launch/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 Looks better than the caddys. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbone Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 3 hours ago, akirby said: Looks better than the caddys. True, but still made in China. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rperez817 Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 1 hour ago, tbone said: True, but still made in China. That's a good thing if U.S. export version of Buick Envision preserves the high quality of the China market Envision. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbone Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 13 hours ago, rperez817 said: That's a good thing if U.S. export version of Buick Envision preserves the high quality of the China market Envision. It’s not a good thing if you are an American auto worker, or if you like to buy products made in America. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rperez817 Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 18 minutes ago, tbone said: It’s not a good thing if you are an American auto worker, or if you like to buy products made in America. It would be nice for GM to apply its quality standards for China market Buicks to U.S. made Buicks, and also nice if Envision for the U.S. market could be assembled at a U.S. GM plant with the higher standards. Maybe that will happen someday in the future. Portions of the design and engineering work for 2nd generation Buick Envision were done in the U.S., and GM is a U.S. company. So Envision has some American flavor even though China is its primary market. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-dubz Posted January 23, 2021 Share Posted January 23, 2021 This is Buick’s best looking vehicle. Should do well for them. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ice-capades Posted January 23, 2021 Share Posted January 23, 2021 Very much a Cadillac vibe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gurgeh Posted January 23, 2021 Share Posted January 23, 2021 (edited) 19 hours ago, rperez817 said: It would be nice for GM to apply its quality standards for China market Buicks to U.S. made Buicks, and also nice if Envision for the U.S. market could be assembled at a U.S. GM plant with the higher standards. Maybe that will happen someday in the future. Portions of the design and engineering work for 2nd generation Buick Envision were done in the U.S., and GM is a U.S. company. So Envision has some American flavor even though China is its primary market. That's the weird thing about Buick. In China it is a highly-regarded premium brand and is considered near-luxury, and there it competes well on that basis. In North America it is still thought of as a gm re-brand like Pontiac or Oldsmobile or, well, Buick. If Buick didn't do so well in China, the brand would likely have gone the way of the other two by now. I too wonder why the Buicks offered here aren't as good in design or build quality as the Buicks offered there, but maybe for the North American market gm just doesn't care that much, thinking the extra effort and expense won't pay out because of brand perception. Edited January 23, 2021 by Gurgeh 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
630land Posted January 29, 2021 Share Posted January 29, 2021 "Longer, lower, and wider" Sound familiar? Wasn't the big deal about UV's the "excellent visibility"? Look at the shrinking windows! Eventually, CUV's will be like wagons, but the auto 'fashionistas' will not notice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmc523 Posted January 29, 2021 Author Share Posted January 29, 2021 40 minutes ago, 630land said: "Longer, lower, and wider" Sound familiar? Wasn't the big deal about UV's the "excellent visibility"? Look at the shrinking windows! Eventually, CUV's will be like wagons, but the auto 'fashionistas' will not notice. Style/form factor preferences change over time in cycles. Really we're just reverting to what was around in the 30s/40s. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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