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Check this out....Maybe we will see more co-operation on the medium duty front as well.....From Reuters

 

Ford's Turkish joint venture to produce electric vans from 2023
Ford Motor Co said on Tuesday that the next version of its Transit van for the European market will go into production in Turkey in 2023 and include fully electric and hybrid variants along with the combustion-engined version.

Read in Reuters: https://apple.news/ANsvaGwf0QiOpwpRgG7W3OA

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5 hours ago, Bob Rosadini said:

Check this out....Maybe we will see more co-operation on the medium duty front as well.....From Reuters

 

Ford's Turkish joint venture to produce electric vans from 2023
Ford Motor Co said on Tuesday that the next version of its Transit van for the European market will go into production in Turkey in 2023 and include fully electric and hybrid variants along with the combustion-engined version.

Read in Reuters: https://apple.news/ANsvaGwf0QiOpwpRgG7W3OA

 

This is for the Transit Custom, not the other four versions of the Transit family. 

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15 hours ago, Bob Rosadini said:

Which is something we don't see in US right?  In think that article makes reference to a "one tonne"???

 

Yes, One-Tonne is reference to Transit Custom and VW Transporter. In Europe, they refer to these mid size vans as One-Tonne because their payload rating starts at around 1,000 kg vs. the compact vans like Transit Connect which has payload that starts around 500 kg or "Half-Tonne".

 

 

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I'm not happy about this VW Transit deal. So if you live in Europe and you have a choice of buying a Ford or VW Transit, I think they're going to buy the VW out of loyalty.  So this way Ford loses their market share in Europe.  VW and Daimler can't stand the fact that Ford leads in commercial sales in Europe!  It actually gnaws at them every waking moment!  

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14 hours ago, Joe771476 said:

I'm not happy about this VW Transit deal. So if you live in Europe and you have a choice of buying a Ford or VW Transit, I think they're going to buy the VW out of loyalty.  So this way Ford loses their market share in Europe.  VW and Daimler can't stand the fact that Ford leads in commercial sales in Europe!  It actually gnaws at them every waking moment!  

 

Why would you assume that? Ford leads the market in Europe for a reason... The loyalty will work in Ford's favor instead of VW if you are talking about light commercial vehicles.

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6 hours ago, bzcat said:

 

Why would you assume that? Ford leads the market in Europe for a reason... The loyalty will work in Ford's favor instead of VW if you are talking about light commercial vehicles.

 

I think what Joe is referring to is "nationalist loyalty" since VW is a Euro-centric company and Ford could be seen as the American invader...but that really doesn't play outside of Germany and that Ford has been a presence in Europe for over 100 years...Ford of Great Britain began in 1909 and Ford Germany in 1925 and merging into the Ford of Europe that we know today in 1967.

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Ford is largely seen as a local brand in most of western Europe, especially in UK and Germany, its two strongest markets. Although Ford has squandered that goodwill and now trails both Toyota and Hyundai in passenger cars in Europe. It still leads light commercial vehicles as the single biggest brand but Stellantis and Renault are bigger players due to all the rebadges. This is why getting VW into the Ford commercial camp is a good thing for Ford... it ensures Ford can continue to operate at scale vs. the two French companies.

 

Stellantis rebadge vans: Peugeot, Citroen, Opel/Vauxhall, Fiat, Toyota

Renault rebadge vans: Renault, Mercedes, Opel/Vauxhall (being phased out), Nissan, Mitsubishi, Dacia, Lada

Ford rebadge vans: none but will add VW soon

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