AtlasBlue350 Posted January 3, 2022 Share Posted January 3, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, breed1 said: My thoughts are: (I wanted to add that I was told by both dealers that they were going to give me Plan X pricing because of my affiliation) Allocation issue. Dealer B sales more trucks so they get more retail orders than Dealer A Pricing and profit strategy on behalf of Dealer A. I'm getting Plan X pricing so I keep getting pushed back because the dealer is making more money on full retail price orders. I don't know of any other reasons than one's above but if anyone else has an input. Let me know. Also, I'm about to have 2 trucks and will be more than willing to sell one for the $1000 deposit plus any sales tax implications that might apply. I'm pretty sure that either dealer will be happy to place it on their showroom floor and sell it for above list price. Breed1: I wouldn't put too much faith in scheduled production dates. My original scheduled date was back in October, and then it slipped a couple of times in November, then I stopped receiving emails from Ford. I'm finally getting my truck this month (shipped by rail), but it's a couple of months later than it's original production schedule. Edited January 3, 2022 by AtlasBlue350 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OREGUNFIRE Posted January 3, 2022 Share Posted January 3, 2022 18 minutes ago, AtlasBlue350 said: Breed1: I wouldn't put too much faith in scheduled production dates. My original scheduled date was back in October, and then it slipped a couple of times in November, then I stopped receiving emails from Ford. I'm finally getting my trucked this month (shipped by rail), but it's a couple of months later than it's original production schedule. Same thing for me. Original build date 10-22 then emails stopped, out of the blue on 12-20 I get 2 emails. First email says truck was built on 12-19 and 45 minutes latter I get another email stating the truck is shipped. Mind you this in the first email since telling me my truck was scheduled for 10-22. Its still not here yet. Original order 8-6 fyi. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
road turtle Posted January 3, 2022 Share Posted January 3, 2022 9 hours ago, yorid said: It would be nice if Ford released some info on the 2023 Super Duties Ford considers that info secret and won't release it until they are ready to release it. Sometimes you can find some info from spy shots that will appear on the internet. I was shocked on '22MY, the larger screen was not on any site I could find. Secrets like that are often leaked. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
22KRTremor Posted January 3, 2022 Share Posted January 3, 2022 8 hours ago, ice-capades said: It's too early! If they follow the usual timing, the 2023 Super Duty Order Guide will be released in mid-March when the USOB (Unscheduled Order Bank) will probably open. It'll be nice when they update the F150 Build and Price for '22 MY as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
22KRTremor Posted January 3, 2022 Share Posted January 3, 2022 - Are the dealers the only one that has access to my railcar number once shipped? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ngwidener Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 46 minutes ago, 22KRTremor said: - Are the dealers the only one that has access to my railcar number once shipped? My dealer claims they have no idea where it is until it arrives on the lot. Not sure if this is really the case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHristopher Runyan Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 Why don’t you call Ford marketing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHristopher Runyan Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 17 minutes ago, Ngwidener said: My dealer claims they have no idea where it is until it arrives on the lot. Not sure if this is really the case. Why don’t you call Ford marketing. I called them and got my vin number and build date two weeks after I ordered my truck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superdutybuilt Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 10 hours ago, ice-capades said: It's too early! If they follow the usual timing, the 2023 Super Duty Order Guide will be released in mid-March when the USOB (Unscheduled Order Bank) will probably open. Stupid question… even if order banks open still going to produce 22’s till late year? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
road turtle Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 1 hour ago, Ngwidener said: My dealer claims they have no idea where it is until it arrives on the lot. Not sure if this is really the case. Dealer is full of brown stuff. They have access to the detail data. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattdm Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 17 minutes ago, Superdutybuilt said: Stupid question… even if order banks open still going to produce 22’s till late year? In a Typical year Order banks Open in March for the next model year. Current model year production usually ends around June/July. There is rumours that they will keep producing 22's later into this year then normal, but at this point nobody really knows. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ngwidener Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 12 minutes ago, road turtle said: Dealer is full of brown stuff. They have access to the detail data. That’s about what I figured, they said super duties are harder to track. I was just interested to know if it’s actually left the plant or on some sort of hold. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
road turtle Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 16 minutes ago, Ngwidener said: That’s about what I figured, they said super duties are harder to track. I was just interested to know if it’s actually left the plant or on some sort of hold. Quite simply, it's BS. As an employee, and dealers have access to the same info I had to track my truck. It was agonizing watching my truck stop on the rail every 100 miles and spend 24-48 hours sitting... the data is there 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ngwidener Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 18 minutes ago, road turtle said: Quite simply, it's BS. As an employee, and dealers have access to the same info I had to track my truck. It was agonizing watching my truck stop on the rail every 100 miles and spend 24-48 hours sitting... the data is there Good to know, I’ll reach out to my salesman again. I appreciate it! ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cjrazus1 Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 Ask them for a VVR or OVFF. That should let them know you are not a ignorant customer. Maybe a PIA one ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1TonOFun Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 @Ngwidener the moderators will tell you to skip the salesman and ask for the sales manager. Your salesman probably doesn’t know what information is available. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ice-capades Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 14 hours ago, Max4wKR said: Okay, but This doesn’t show if it’s on priority or not right? I figured since it’s still a KR I’m paying $85k i figured that’s a good chunk of change to make it be faster lol. Your Dealer can tell you your order's priority code via the WBDO (Web Based Dealer Ordering) system "Preview" display for your order. It's also in the Vehicle Visibility report in the "Details" section. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ice-capades Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 11 hours ago, Ngwidener said: My dealer claims they have no idea where it is until it arrives on the lot. Not sure if this is really the case. Your Dealer has 24/7 access to the Vehicle Visibility reporting system that includes complete order history, scheduling, production and shipping status updates through delivery to the dealership. They not only have the rail carrier and rail car number information but also continuous updates on the rail car location! Your Dealer either doesn't know, can't be bothered or worse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ice-capades Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 10 hours ago, mattdm said: There is rumours that they will keep producing 22's later into this year then normal, but at this point nobody really knows. Just that... rumors and speculation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ice-capades Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 10 hours ago, Ngwidener said: That’s about what I figured, they said super duties are harder to track. I was just interested to know if it’s actually left the plant or on some sort of hold. If your vehicle is on microchip hold it'll be noted on the Vehicle Visibility report. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ngwidener Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 18 minutes ago, ice-capades said: Your Dealer has 24/7 access to the Vehicle Visibility reporting system that includes complete order history, scheduling, production and shipping status updates through delivery to the dealership. They not only have the rail carrier and rail car number information but also continuous updates on the rail car location! Your Dealer either doesn't know, can't be bothered or worse. They aren’t very responsive so I figured they probably have more info than they are giving me. Thanks for the insight. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F350 PLAT LB SRW Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 15 hours ago, ice-capades said: The Window Sticker and Dealer Invoice are created just before the vehicle goes into production. It sounds like changes to the order were submitted after the vehicle was "locked in" which has been happening earlier than usual the past year due to the many factors affecting scheduling and plant operations. Changes to scheduled orders are sent to the plant for approval and, if rejected because the order is "locked in", the vehicle is produced with the last accepted specifications. Thanks for information... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ngwidener Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 4 hours ago, ice-capades said: If your vehicle is on microchip hold it'll be noted on the Vehicle Visibility report. Thank you. I’ve reached out to my dealer again to ask if they can see if there’s any sort of hold on the VVR. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EA1205 Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 On 12/23/2021 at 7:02 AM, Rangers09 said: Hi and welcome to the forum. Unfortunately with F-450's many of the commodity issues over the past couple of months are critical or included components of the F-450's - 19.5" wheels, DRW boxes, 5th wheel prep, so some of the commodity issues can't be deleted to speed the build. Ford have been building a few F-450's, but many are still in the queue for scheduling. I ordered in August and their are many before me. On this and other forums, almost everyone with an order of at least August, or earlier has been moved to Priority 1 or 2. I removed all options like spray-in bedliner, mudflaps and wheel well liners back in September, but am still waiting to be scheduled. I have been at Priority 1 or 2 for at least a month. My dealer estimates my truck will scheduled and receive a VIN next month. Thanks for the reply and the info. I feel like I don’t get much info from my dealer like others are experiencing. I’m dealing with the GM of the dealership, but I have to be the one to ask for updates and it’s always the same, “not scheduled yet, we should hear something soon.” I know that’s pretty much it, but I know dealers have allocations and can see what’s holding things up too. Guess I’m just as anxious as everyone else and this commodity thing sucks. I appreciate reading everyone’s experiences and the moderators offering their knowledge. At least we’re a little more educated from being here. Thanks again. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattdm Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 Finally Got the Text ive been Waiting 7 months for ? they are getting it through PDI asap then ill take delivery. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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