mrmallerd Posted March 30, 2021 Share Posted March 30, 2021 (edited) 2021 Ford Build & Price will allow me to include the 5th Wheel/Gooseneck Prep with a 160" Wheelbase. However, my dealer is stating this is unavailable on a 2022 with the 160" wheelbase? Is this correct? Edited March 30, 2021 by mrmallerd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted March 30, 2021 Share Posted March 30, 2021 The actual 5th wheel hitch kit requires the 8 foot bed but not the 5th wheel prep package. That’s the same as 2021 - optional on all. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted March 30, 2021 Share Posted March 30, 2021 You can get the order guide using the link at the top of the page. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HotRunrGuy Posted March 30, 2021 Share Posted March 30, 2021 from the 2022 order guide. HRG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ford truck guy Posted March 30, 2021 Share Posted March 30, 2021 my Brother in law and son in law BOTH ordered their 2022 Superduty's last week. They Both ordered the 160" with the 5th wheel prep with no issues.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmallerd Posted March 30, 2021 Author Share Posted March 30, 2021 Thks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baddestt Posted April 1, 2021 Share Posted April 1, 2021 Just fyi, it weighs 165 lbs, and will deduct from your payload. But provides additional structural stiffness Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ltngdrvr Posted June 23, 2021 Share Posted June 23, 2021 On 3/31/2021 at 9:09 PM, Baddestt said: Just fyi, it weighs 165 lbs, and will deduct from your payload. But provides additional structural stiffness Hard to believe the installed weight would be that high. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattdm Posted June 23, 2021 Share Posted June 23, 2021 I have a 160" wb with fifth wheel prep on order. No issues doing so. You do have to be careful picking out a fifth wheel to tow with a shortbox, as it is possible for the cab to contact the trailer during sharp turns. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ltngdrvr Posted June 23, 2021 Share Posted June 23, 2021 29 minutes ago, mattdm said: I have a 160" wb with fifth wheel prep on order. No issues doing so. You do have to be careful picking out a fifth wheel to tow with a shortbox, as it is possible for the cab to contact the trailer during sharp turns. Just have to be careful on tight turns, or get a sliding 5th wheel or a Andersen Ultimate 5th wheel hitch. I use the Andersen on my RAM. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
road turtle Posted June 23, 2021 Share Posted June 23, 2021 5 hours ago, Ltngdrvr said: Hard to believe the installed weight would be that high. IRC, the SAE standard allows for 100 lbs of hitch weight, along with 300 lbs (total) for driver (150 lbs) and passenger (150 lbs) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ltngdrvr Posted June 23, 2021 Share Posted June 23, 2021 32 minutes ago, road turtle said: IRC, the SAE standard allows for 100 lbs of hitch weight, along with 300 lbs (total) for driver (150 lbs) and passenger (150 lbs) You'll have to expound on that a little more, no idea what you're talking about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rlatronico Posted June 24, 2021 Share Posted June 24, 2021 Ford gives the option of the 5th Wheel Prep package and then you can buy the 5th Wheel Hitch directly from Ford as well. They won't let you buy the hitch for a short bed pickup because of potential clearance issues. But you can get the 5th Wheel Prep package on a short bed. I've towed two different fifth wheels with short bed trucks. I had a sliding hitch for awhile but it was heavy and I only used the sliding feature once. So I switched to a standard (non-sliding) hitch. I've never even come close to hitting the cab, but I do stay aware of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
road turtle Posted June 24, 2021 Share Posted June 24, 2021 15 hours ago, Ltngdrvr said: You'll have to expound on that a little more, no idea what you're talking about. SAE Towing Standard J2807 set certain criteria for reporting tow weight and payload capacity standards. All the OEMs, including Ford have signed up to follow. The standard assumes hitch component weight of 100 lbs, and a driver and passenger at 150 lbs each. It also includes full fluids, including fuel. Weight Police are famous for stating it doesn't include 300 lbs of people, and does not include fuel, which is incorrect. People that tow trailers have a tendency to only look at empty weight, and are often told by RV dealers, it will tow it no problem... but I digress Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ltngdrvr Posted June 24, 2021 Share Posted June 24, 2021 48 minutes ago, road turtle said: SAE Towing Standard J2807 set certain criteria for reporting tow weight and payload capacity standards. All the OEMs, including Ford have signed up to follow. The standard assumes hitch component weight of 100 lbs, and a driver and passenger at 150 lbs each. It also includes full fluids, including fuel. Weight Police are famous for stating it doesn't include 300 lbs of people, and does not include fuel, which is incorrect. People that tow trailers have a tendency to only look at empty weight, and are often told by RV dealers, it will tow it no problem... but I digress But, that has nothing to do with my questioning the weight of the puck system. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slowninja14 Posted June 24, 2021 Share Posted June 24, 2021 2 hours ago, rlatronico said: Ford gives the option of the 5th Wheel Prep package and then you can buy the 5th Wheel Hitch directly from Ford as well. They won't let you buy the hitch for a short bed pickup because of potential clearance issues. But you can get the 5th Wheel Prep package on a short bed. I've towed two different fifth wheels with short bed trucks. I had a sliding hitch for awhile but it was heavy and I only used the sliding feature once. So I switched to a standard (non-sliding) hitch. I've never even come close to hitting the cab, but I do stay aware of it. Not true, they let me order the hitch with my short bed. I did end up canceling the hitch, but, they let me order it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F2tremor7 Posted June 24, 2021 Share Posted June 24, 2021 Is the factory gooseneck hitch any better or worse than a B&W? I ordered a B&W but was just curious Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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