Rivercityjeff Posted March 31, 2021 Share Posted March 31, 2021 What am I missing? We are on the edge of ordering a SD. It's my understanding there is no functional difference between an F350 and an F250 with the high capacity trailer towing package. As I understand, the HCTT package adds the F350 larger differential and heavier springs to a F250. The price difference is minimal but, in some states the registration and insurance is more with the F350. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HotRunrGuy Posted March 31, 2021 Share Posted March 31, 2021 31 minutes ago, Rivercityjeff said: What am I missing? We are on the edge of ordering a SD. It's my understanding there is no functional difference between an F350 and an F250 with the high capacity trailer towing package. As I understand, the HCTT package adds the F350 larger differential and heavier springs to a F250. The price difference is minimal but, in some states the registration and insurance is more with the F350. Is your state only considering the model # designation, or are they looking at the GCWR # ? The 250 w/HCTT should have an higher GCWR #, same as the 350. Looking at the information supplied in the RV/Towing guide. HRG 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rivercityjeff Posted March 31, 2021 Author Share Posted March 31, 2021 (edited) In Texas, initial registration is 6.25% of vehicle cost/fair market value. With disabled vet plates, the yearly renewal is $50. Same for an F250 or an F350. Our main concern is the payload capacity pulling a 5th wheel or bumper pull trailer. With a 5th wheel pin weight of 2000-2500 pounds, a loaded diesel F250 is really close to max payload or over it. The F250 GCWR jumps from 23500 to 30,000 with the HCTT package 535. The F350 GCWR is 30,000 unless you opt for the 10,000 GVWR package. The actual payload is on the door Safety Compliance Sticker and not published in the Ford Towing guide. Edited March 31, 2021 by Rivercityjeff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HotRunrGuy Posted March 31, 2021 Share Posted March 31, 2021 (edited) 25 minutes ago, Rivercityjeff said: With a 5th wheel pin weight of 2000-2500 pounds, a loaded diesel F250 is really close to max payload or over it. So what are you seeing for the max payload number on a F-250 with.HCTT vs a F-350 SRW? That's what your real concern is, right? The plate registration costs that you brought up don't apply, or there is a minimal difference as you stated. HRG Edited March 31, 2021 by HotRunrGuy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rivercityjeff Posted March 31, 2021 Author Share Posted March 31, 2021 (edited) HotRunrGuy, that's the problem. The payload varies based on the options of each truck. Best I can research, a 2022 F250 LariatCC 4x4 shortbed w/ HCTT SRW 6.7 should have a payload of about 3300 pounds? The F350 is close to that number. The Chevy 2500HD LTZ is 3100-3300 and the Ram 2500 Laramie is 2400ish. Edited April 3, 2021 by Rivercityjeff AggieDad had better information Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AggieDad Posted March 31, 2021 Share Posted March 31, 2021 8 hours ago, Rivercityjeff said: What am I missing? We are on the edge of ordering a SD. It's my understanding there is no functional difference between an F350 and an F250 with the high capacity trailer towing package. As I understand, the HCTT package adds the F350 larger differential and heavier springs to a F250. The price difference is minimal but, in some states the registration and insurance is more with the F350. If helpful, I just moments ago returned home from picking up my F350 CCSB Platinum with the 6.7L TD. I left the dealer and drove straight to the CAT Scales and with full fuel, DEF and my wife and me in the truck, here are my numbers. Per the CAT Ticket: Steer Axle - 4940 lbs Drive Axle - 3300 lbs Total Weight - 8240 lbs Per door stickers: Payload - 3397 lbs Front GAWR - 5200 lbs Rear GAWR - 7230 lbs GVWR - 11500 lbs Per Fleet guide: GCWR - 30000 lbs How those stack up to your hypothetical F250 with HCTT, I don't know. I'm only offering my experience in the hope it's helpful. 3 months and 2 days ago, I was in your exact place. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rivercityjeff Posted April 1, 2021 Author Share Posted April 1, 2021 AggieDad, thank you for your input. Those numbers do indeed help! Your F350 is certainly capable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pig9r Posted April 2, 2021 Share Posted April 2, 2021 (edited) What I gathered from the tow guide is F250 HCTTP is 10,800 GVWR and F350 is 11,400 GVWR. They are both rated to tow 20k conventional and F250 19,100 5th wheel with F350 22,000. This is comparing crew cab diesel with 160” wheel base. My ‘21 Lariat Ultimate, CC, 6.7, 160” with HCTTP has a payload of 2754. If you haven’t seen this yet it’s pretty cool if you have a vin: https://fordfleetlive.com/#/VinCalculator Edited April 2, 2021 by pig9r 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powerboatr Posted April 5, 2021 Share Posted April 5, 2021 might help info my door sticker is gvwr of 10,000 lbs but loading data plate lists 5 seating capacity and combined weight of passengers and payload of 2205lbs.. which would indicate empty is 7700lbs give or take. i will weigh it later this week i have trailer package and 3.31 axle ELD 4x4 crew cab short box. Front axle GAWR is 5200lbs and Rear axle GAWR is 6340lbs not sure how a 30k gcvwr is achieved. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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