akirby Posted May 20, 2021 Share Posted May 20, 2021 38 minutes ago, kyle said: Wondering what they hell they’ve would of done if it was raining in Dearborn!! Reschedule 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moosetang Posted May 20, 2021 Share Posted May 20, 2021 20 minutes ago, rmc523 said: Ok fire the front designer and promote the rear designer, because that looks crisp. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted May 20, 2021 Share Posted May 20, 2021 3 hours ago, Willwll313wll said: I'm surprised at the pricing considering Ford knows pickups can pull a high premium. $53k for XLT, more for Lariat and Platinum topping out at $90k. Base models are commercial focused. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted May 20, 2021 Share Posted May 20, 2021 17 minutes ago, silvrsvt said: I'm impressed that its starting at 40K...I'd like to see what they are offering with it at that price point. Probably the same as a XL fleet truck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted May 20, 2021 Share Posted May 20, 2021 11 minutes ago, FordBuyer said: I doubt if it has 4WD, 600+hp, and 700 pounds of torque plus 300 mile range. But starting price of $40,000 is impressive and competitors will have trouble meeting that price point. Figure base Lightning will have 200 mile range, 2WD, 400 pounds of torque, and 350 hp. Did you watch the video or read the material? 4WD standard on all models. 250 mile range standard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jniffen Posted May 20, 2021 Share Posted May 20, 2021 Just realized the batteries solve the age old problem with trucks and winter, too light of a back end for traction. It would be cool looking for the old standard cab short bed, like the previous Lightnings. Still not sure if BEV is a good fit in the Twin Cities, for heat in the cab and how the batteries like extreme cold. One last question, when they are mentioning the 80 Amp charger, that's not 240VAC 80 amp coming from the house breaker panel, right? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted May 20, 2021 Share Posted May 20, 2021 5 minutes ago, jniffen said: One last question, when they are mentioning the 80 Amp charger, that's not 240VAC 80 amp coming from the house breaker panel, right? It might be dual 40 amp circuits. It has 2 charge ports. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ANTAUS Posted May 20, 2021 Share Posted May 20, 2021 I actually had some friends over with some drinks to watch it...I think everyone was shocked at $39K for starting price but we figured the norm would be $70k+. Bill did a good job, Linda was a bit nervous but did well, but personally... I was wondering what issues Jim had.. Either the pants were too tight (totally off the mark), or he doesn't know how to walk graciously on stage, oh he's bow-legged, but something was off with him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slemke Posted May 20, 2021 Share Posted May 20, 2021 12 minutes ago, Moosetang said: Ok fire the front designer and promote the rear designer, because that looks crisp. The rear looks really good. Tailgate likely fits on any F150. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-dubz Posted May 20, 2021 Share Posted May 20, 2021 Did it mention cab configurations? Regular cab with the same batteries would be pretty sweet. If they are all crew cab, how are you supposed to charge them at home? Most people probably can’t fit a crew cab in the garage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jniffen Posted May 20, 2021 Share Posted May 20, 2021 4 minutes ago, akirby said: It might be dual 40 amp circuits. It has 2 charge ports. That's still a lot of juice coming into the house, along with everything else that is on. Which the idea of charging overnight makes sense. But with two BEVs I'm guessing they would have to swap days, Car A even days, Car B odd days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmc523 Posted May 20, 2021 Share Posted May 20, 2021 5 minutes ago, slemke said: The rear looks really good. Tailgate likely fits on any F150. No. The outer edges of the tailgate bumps out "into" the taillights. Regular models it's straight up and down. The attachment points are likely the same, but you won't be able to plug and play. 4 minutes ago, T-dubz said: Did it mention cab configurations? Regular cab with the same batteries would be pretty sweet. If they are all crew cab, how are you supposed to charge them at home? Most people probably can’t fit a crew cab in the garage. I believe SuperCrew only. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slemke Posted May 20, 2021 Share Posted May 20, 2021 It will be interesting to see the response over the next couple days and how many are ordered. With government incentives, the XLT is competitively priced with conventional mid tier trucks. Should be a good around town vehicle. Range is limited for road trip use. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbone Posted May 20, 2021 Share Posted May 20, 2021 2 hours ago, silvrsvt said: Grills on cars/trucks are a huge part of overall styling. Some BEVs give me the same look at seeing someone with no eyebrows or something. I actually laughed out loud regarding the eyebrows comment, but yes, I totally agree with you on this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sullynd Posted May 20, 2021 Share Posted May 20, 2021 13 minutes ago, jniffen said: But with two BEVs I'm guessing they would have to swap days, Car A even days, Car B odd days. There are chargers that can be plugged in to two cars and manage the charging on one circuit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sullynd Posted May 20, 2021 Share Posted May 20, 2021 11 minutes ago, slemke said: With government incentives Unless the incentives change (Biden wants to, but congress is split) it’s likely Fords incentives will go away before any meaningful Lightning sales. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbone Posted May 20, 2021 Share Posted May 20, 2021 43 minutes ago, Moosetang said: Ok fire the front designer and promote the rear designer, because that looks crisp. Agreed, the back looks really good. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbone Posted May 20, 2021 Share Posted May 20, 2021 How long before we can get lift kits for this thing?! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmc523 Posted May 20, 2021 Share Posted May 20, 2021 17 minutes ago, sullynd said: Unless the incentives change (Biden wants to, but congress is split) it’s likely Fords incentives will go away before any meaningful Lightning sales. Anyone know what they're at now? Isn't it 200k when it kicks in? Have they sold anywhere near that many plug in models? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzymoomoo Posted May 20, 2021 Share Posted May 20, 2021 34 minutes ago, slemke said: It will be interesting to see the response over the next couple days and how many are ordered. With government incentives, the XLT is competitively priced with conventional mid tier trucks. Should be a good around town vehicle. Range is limited for road trip use. Size-wise it's too big for me However if they ever did a Ranger version of this I could get on board 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzymoomoo Posted May 20, 2021 Share Posted May 20, 2021 9 minutes ago, rmc523 said: Anyone know what they're at now? Isn't it 200k when it kicks in? Have they sold anywhere near that many plug in models? Last estimate I saw had it around 65k but that seemed high to me. I think that was both FHEV and PHEV combined. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petemill Posted May 20, 2021 Share Posted May 20, 2021 First F series truck that will have independent rear suspension https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=53jo50drwTk 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pffan1990 Posted May 20, 2021 Share Posted May 20, 2021 Impressive reveal and impressive truck! They hit a homerun with this one in terms of capability, features, and even pricing. Linda was certainly nervous but also beaming with pride with her work as chief engineer... and she should be! I like how the Mach-E and E-Transit also rolled up on stage at the end to show Ford's EVs. I went on Ford's site to check out prices and options out of curiosity. It took me two times to wait a minute before getting in due to high traffic. After reading the info and viewing pictures on the F-150 Lightning page, I went on to the reservation button. However, after selecting the local dealership, it asked me to either log in or create a Ford customer account before even proceeding with the 'reservation' process. I don't have a customer account nor do I want to set one up just to view the features and prices of the new Lightning. I'm not a customer with intentions to buy one since I ceased driving over 20 years ago due to my low vision, though I'm a Ford enthusiast. But seems odd they require logging into account before proceeding after selecting dealership. I guess Ford wants to make sure that those customers who are serious about reserving would already be logged into their accounts to speed up the process, which makes sense. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GearheadGrrrl Posted May 20, 2021 Share Posted May 20, 2021 I was skeptical but now I'm impressed- 1800 to 2000 pound payload, plenty of towing capacity, IRS, and an after incentives price of $33k is only $8k more than the fleet bids I've seen for 4WD F150s with standard cabs! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petemill Posted May 20, 2021 Share Posted May 20, 2021 7 minutes ago, pffan1990 said: [...]it asked me to either log in or create a Ford customer account before even proceeding with the 'reservation' process. I don't have a customer account nor do I want to set one up just to view the features and prices of the new Lightning. I'm not a customer with intentions to buy one since I ceased driving over 20 years ago due to my low vision, though I'm a Ford enthusiast. But seems odd they require logging into account before proceeding after selecting dealership. I guess Ford wants to make sure that those customers who are serious about reserving would already be logged into their accounts to speed up the process, which makes sense. There is no build and price yet. It's just a $100 blanket reservation to order specific trim / variant at a future date. The login is to associate your reservation with your account and make the payment. It's pretty much the last step of the process. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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