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All Electric Ford F-150 Lightning to be revealed on May 19 at 930 pm ET


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13 hours ago, FordBuyer said:

 

So is April 26 a Lightning Job 1 date or a delivery date to actual customers? If a Job 1 date, then it's usually 6 weeks to OK to Ship date to dealers. If Ford can build 15,000+ Lightnings by end of year, then they certainly are beating Rivian that is building about 2,500/quarter. 

The OK to buy hold is only there for the main launch of a new model to ensure build quality is consistent and that’s not normally six weeks anyway. With Lightning, it sounds like deliveries will begin immediately as Ford already  has all the preproduction builds to gauge how things are going with the electrics. When you think about it, there’s a lot less to go wrong with the BEV….

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19 hours ago, petemill said:

April 26 is just the event date close enough to the date of production of the first customer orders, which is the preceding week. Likely they'll deliver those first few trucks then or soon after. I believe Job #1 was for dealer mannequins etc and has been happening for the last few weeks. Customer orders are all under Job #2 as per WBDO order sheets, which presumably starts around this week.


All Job 1 really means is full line speed. MP1 units are customer units but typically the first few hundred are for executives, demos, Jay Leno, Roger Penske, and charity auctions. 

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8 hours ago, jpd80 said:

The OK to buy hold is only there for the main launch of a new model to ensure build quality is consistent and that’s not normally six weeks anyway. With Lightning, it sounds like deliveries will begin immediately as Ford already  has all the preproduction builds to gauge how things are going with the electrics. When you think about it, there’s a lot less to go wrong with the BEV….


When you think about it, OKTB shouldn't take that long since the actual truck body is largely identical to its ICE counterpart save for those dumb light bars and some electronic features. 

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22 minutes ago, fuzzymoomoo said:


When you think about it, OKTB shouldn't take that long since the actual truck body is largely identical to its ICE counterpart save for those dumb light bars and some electronic features. 

Precisely, most of the changes are packed in the chassis and unlike an ICE there’s actually less to go wrong…..

 

A some point in the future when Lightning switches to TE1 architecture, I’m hoping that most of the existing battery tech, motors and control systems can be grandfathered over to the T6s -  Ranger, Bronco and Everest. That would make an easier, more economical pathway to BEV by reusing tech that is already well amortised.

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2 hours ago, fuzzymoomoo said:


All Job 1 really means is full line speed. MP1 units are customer units but typically the first few hundred are for executives, demos, Jay Leno, Roger Penske, and charity auctions. 

First few thousand I believe. REVC has built 2,000 units. All of them have gone right back to ford, don’t think any are customer trucks. Job #2 on the 26th should mark when that starts.

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20 minutes ago, muse3115 said:

First few thousand I believe. REVC has built 2,000 units. All of them have gone right back to ford, don’t think any are customer trucks. Job #2 on the 26th should mark when that starts.


No, Job 2 doesn't really mean much as far as the consumer is concerned. That's typically WELL into the model year when it gets to that phase. 

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2 hours ago, jpd80 said:

Precisely, most of the changes are packed in the chassis and unlike an ICE there’s actually less to go wrong…..

 

A some point in the future when Lightning switches to TE1 architecture, I’m hoping that most of the existing battery tech, motors and control systems can be grandfathered over to the T6s -  Ranger, Bronco and Everest. That would make an easier, more economical pathway to BEV by reusing tech that is already well amortised.

 

That would be a good idea. Keep T6 EVs prices as low as possible by doing this for a few years or its first generation. Then eventually shift the T6 EVs onto the TE1 architecture either during the MCE of the TE1 F-150 Lightning or wait until TE2 rolls out. I wonder if Ford would apply this with current Mustang Mach-E? If possible, use current Mach-E as basis for EVs of Escape, Edge, Maverick, new Transit Connect; for 'C2' sized EVs in North America. All within the next few years while the Mach-E gets redesigned into the GE1 architecture. By then the GE1-based Explorer/Aviator would have already been on sale. All to keep costs and prices as low as possible.

Edited to add: This is exciting times we are witnessing with the April 26th celebration of the F-150 Lightning. A new era we are witnessing!! Can't wait to watch the livestream and see the truck succeed.

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3 hours ago, pffan1990 said:

This is exciting times we are witnessing with the April 26th celebration of the F-150 Lightning. A new era we are witnessing!! Can't wait to watch the livestream and see the truck succeed.

 

Well said pffan1990. F-150 Lightning is Ford's most important new product launch of the 21st century. More than any other, this product launch represents how serious Ford is to not only enter the "new world" of the auto industry, but to really succeed at it.

 

 

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1 hour ago, rperez817 said:

 

Well said pffan1990. F-150 Lightning is Ford's most important new product launch of the 21st century. More than any other, this product launch represents how serious Ford is to not only enter the "new world" of the auto industry, but to really succeed at it.

 

 

 

Since pickups are by far the largest segment and Ford dominates it, and if you add in the Transit EV, then Ford will be the most important BEV maker in the land. Unlike Rivian that can't seem to get out of its own way, Ford should be able to get out of the gate quickly with its production know how. To really make a difference in emissions, work trucks and vans is where you make the difference the most. Ford has hit the sweet spot. 

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On 4/16/2022 at 3:01 PM, FordBuyer said:

To really make a difference in emissions, work trucks and vans is where you make the difference the most. Ford has hit the sweet spot. 

 

Great point FordBuyer. Many of those work trucks and vans fall into the category of gasoline (and diesel fuel) "superusers". Maybe Ford can offer higher, targeted incentives for these "superuser" owners of older ICE powered F-150, Transit, and E-Series to replace their vehicles with F-150 Lightning and/or E-Transit. Combined with government incentives to do the same, this would make a bigger difference addressing pollution and the global climate crisis than the flat structure for BEV tax credits nowadays.

 

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  • Drivers are highly unequal in their gasoline consumption. The drivers in the top 10% of gasoline consumption each use upwards of 1,000 gallons of gasoline each year. 
  • Collectively Gasoline Superusers burn nearly one-third of all U.S. gasoline consumed in the U.S. by light duty vehicles. This is more than the bottom 60% of users combined. The top 20% of gasoline users burn 48%.
  • Revising EV incentives to focus on displacing gasoline consumption will cut gasoline use faster, more efficiently, and at lower cost. 
  • Getting Gasoline Superusers into EVs as quickly as possible is critical to hitting our climate goals

 

Key Characteristics of Gasoline Superusers:

  • Use more than 1,000 gallons of gasoline a year
  • Drive three times more miles than the average driver
  • Are more likely to drive pickups and SUVs
  • Are more likely to live in rural areas
  • Have similar income and educational levels as the general population
  • Have lower average income levels than current EV drivers
  • Spend on average 8% of their income on gasoline — more than twice that of average drivers.
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Good article in NYT yesterday about Ford's preparations for the F-150 Lightning product launch, including quotes from Jim Farley and Bill Ford Jr. Jim Farley wasn't exaggerating one bit when he said last year that "adapt or die" are the only choices Ford has amid the ongoing automotive industry revolution. Jim Farley Tries to Reinvent Ford and Catch Up to Elon Musk and Tesla - The New York Times (nytimes.com)

 

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On a recent Tuesday afternoon, Jim Farley, the chief executive of Ford Motor, took a spin in what could become one of the most important vehicles in the company’s 118-year history: an electric F-150 pickup truck.

Sitting at the wheel of a prototype at the company’s test track in Dearborn, Mr. Farley floored it. From a standing stop, the 6,000-pound truck surged forward. “Four seconds,” he shouted when it reached 60 miles per hour. “That’s unbelievable for a vehicle of this size.”

Steering the truck to a series of dips and rises in the track, he said, “Let’s see if we can get some air,” and shouted “Yes!” as the wheels briefly left the tarmac over one incline. In a final lap, he careened around a steeply banked turn and floored it again on a straightaway until he hit 99 miles an hour — just short of the track’s 100 m.p.h. speed limit.

“I can’t wait,” Mr. Farley said as he stepped out, shaking his head. “I can’t wait till customers get this truck.”

 

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“The traditional auto industry is pretty far behind Tesla,” said Earl J. Hesterberg, chief executive of Group 1 Automotive, a large auto retailer, who has known Mr. Farley for two decades. “In the past, if you were behind by a few years, the big players could catch up. But today, the speed of change is so much greater.”
Auto experts say the electric F-150, known as the Lightning, must be a success if Ford is to thrive in the age of electric vehicles. Introducing this truck now is equivalent to “betting the company,” said William C. Ford Jr., the company’s executive chairman, who is a great-grandson of Henry Ford.

 

"If this launch doesn’t go well, we can tarnish the entire franchise. If the Lightning launch goes well, we have an enormous opportunity,” Mr. Ford said.

 

 

 

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The big day is here! Press release for F-150 Lightning product launch. America’s Best-Selling Vehicle Now Electric: Production Begins for F-150 Lightning Trucks | Ford Media Center

 

America’s real transition to electric vehicles starts now,” said Ford President and CEO Jim Farley. “F-150 Lightning is just the beginning of our ambitions for growth and leadership in digital, electric vehicles. We continue to expand our EV manufacturing footprint across the U.S., including the start of site preparation at BlueOval City, which will enable us to meet the ever-increasing customer demand for our exciting EV line-up.”

 

Livestream of the launch event will start  at 1:30 PM Eastern. http://ford.to/LightningStrikes

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Didn't see this posted.  

 

https://www.yahoo.com/autos/surprise-2023-ford-f-150-194600048.html

 

Customers taking delivery of their new F-150 Lightnings in the coming weeks are in for a pleasant surprise once they get behind the wheel of their trucks. Ford announced today, just days after beginning production of the all-electric pickup, that both variants of the F-150 Lightning actually make more power than the brand originally expected.

F-150 Lightnings with the extended-range battery pack will now make 580 hp, up from the original figure of 563 horses. Trucks with the standard-range pack are now rated at 452 hp, up from 426. Torque remains the same for both trims, at 775 lb-ft.

As a result of the extra power, payload capacity for the F-150 Lightning is also up over initial estimates. With the right options, Lightnings can now haul a total of 2235 pounds, up from just 2000.

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18 hours ago, blwnsmoke said:

Didn't see this posted.  

 

https://www.yahoo.com/autos/surprise-2023-ford-f-150-194600048.html

 

Customers taking delivery of their new F-150 Lightnings in the coming weeks are in for a pleasant surprise once they get behind the wheel of their trucks. Ford announced today, just days after beginning production of the all-electric pickup, that both variants of the F-150 Lightning actually make more power than the brand originally expected.

F-150 Lightnings with the extended-range battery pack will now make 580 hp, up from the original figure of 563 horses. Trucks with the standard-range pack are now rated at 452 hp, up from 426. Torque remains the same for both trims, at 775 lb-ft.

As a result of the extra power, payload capacity for the F-150 Lightning is also up over initial estimates. With the right options, Lightnings can now haul a total of 2235 pounds, up from just 2000.

 

Very cool. Ford is really over-delivering with F-150 Lightning. Extra range (for ER), extra payload capacity, and extra horsepower compared to the initial specs. ?

 

Now all 2022 F-150 Lightning models are the most powerful F-150 trucks in history!

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