Twin Turbo Posted August 16, 2021 Share Posted August 16, 2021 https://fordauthority.com/2021/08/ford-caught-benchmarking-dodge-charger-srt-hellcat-around-dearborn/ I don't normally like to repeat rumours, but rumours are all we have, so....... The Charger Hellcat is the polar opposite of what the future holds for us enthusiasts. But could Ford be giving us one last hurrah before an all electric future? Ford recently updated the Thunderbird trademark. Would they give us a 6.8/7.3/5.0 V8 muscle saloon? That would certainly give us the thunder! One would assume such a car would have to be based on a stretched S550/S650 platform, so could this be the rumoured 4-door Mustang? It seems a LONG time ago that such a 4-door Mustang was allegedly mentioned at a dealer presentation. And the "6.8 will be for F150 and Mustang derivatives" comment from the UAW agreement was a long time ago, too. There certainly haven't been any mules or prototypes spotted, heck we haven't seen any prototypes of the '23MY S650 Mustang period!! Whilst I'd welcome such a car, could they just be benchmarking it's performance whilst they develop an EV muscle car, just as Dodge themselves have announced is coming? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stray Kat Posted August 16, 2021 Share Posted August 16, 2021 54 minutes ago, Twin Turbo said: https://fordauthority.com/2021/08/ford-caught-benchmarking-dodge-charger-srt-hellcat-around-dearborn/ I don't normally like to repeat rumours, but rumours are all we have, so....... The Charger Hellcat is the polar opposite of what the future holds for us enthusiasts. But could Ford be giving us one last hurrah before an all electric future? Ford recently updated the Thunderbird trademark. Would they give us a 6.8/7.3/5.0 V8 muscle saloon? That would certainly give us the thunder! One would assume such a car would have to be based on a stretched S550/S650 platform, so could this be the rumoured 4-door Mustang? It seems a LONG time ago that such a 4-door Mustang was allegedly mentioned at a dealer presentation. And the "6.8 will be for F150 and Mustang derivatives" comment from the UAW agreement was a long time ago, too. There certainly haven't been any mules or prototypes spotted, heck we haven't seen any prototypes of the '23MY S650 Mustang period!! Whilst I'd welcome such a car, could they just be benchmarking it's performance whilst they develop an EV muscle car, just as Dodge themselves have announced is coming? Maybe the Dodge Charger has a 6.8 Ford engine in it for testing purposes. It would be the perfect cover. Hmmmm? 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTL2017 Posted August 16, 2021 Share Posted August 16, 2021 (edited) I think Matt Maran Motoring was the YouTuber with sources about a sedan mustang. Edit: Here's the video... Edited August 16, 2021 by JTL2017 Add video 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeluxeStang Posted August 16, 2021 Share Posted August 16, 2021 I can't see a mustang sedan with the 6.8, but one with a 2.3/5.0/5.2 would be awesome. Or maybe do two powertrain options, a 5.0 and a ev, so you can appeal to purists, and future proof it at the same time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silvrsvt Posted August 16, 2021 Share Posted August 16, 2021 Uh technically the Mach E is a Mustang Sedan ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slemke Posted August 16, 2021 Share Posted August 16, 2021 3 hours ago, silvrsvt said: Uh technically the Mach E is a Mustang Sedan ? More like a 4 door hatch. Hellcat Chargers seem to be popular around here. A 4 door mustang with a 6.8L would be right at home. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmc523 Posted August 16, 2021 Share Posted August 16, 2021 Doubtful, but they could also benchmark it for an EV equivalent? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sullynd Posted August 16, 2021 Share Posted August 16, 2021 6 minutes ago, rmc523 said: Doubtful, but they could also benchmark it for an EV equivalent? Yeah, was thinking that too. While I keep expecting another Mustang (coupe, CUV, sedan) it would surprise me for the sedan to be an ICE at this point. But if it is for BEV development then why not a Model S/3. Could also be about the engine and have nothing to do with the body style. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildosvt Posted August 17, 2021 Share Posted August 17, 2021 Isnt the platform the Charger rides on due to end not to far from now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasonj80 Posted August 17, 2021 Share Posted August 17, 2021 Ford attempts to benchmarks everything, at one point there would have been a Telluride and even an Accent out there too. It’s standard in the industry Stellantis probably has 5 Broncos already. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slemke Posted August 17, 2021 Share Posted August 17, 2021 3 hours ago, rmc523 said: Doubtful, but they could also benchmark it for an EV equivalent? Why not just use a Tesla model S if it is an ev equivalent? That seems to be the electric sedan performance standard and what it would be compared against. I’m guessing it’s to compare with the 6.8L. Possible Ford has several chargers, one with a 6.8L and another with the hellcat to compare apples to apples on engine performance. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeluxeStang Posted August 17, 2021 Share Posted August 17, 2021 5 hours ago, sullynd said: Yeah, was thinking that too. While I keep expecting another Mustang (coupe, CUV, sedan) it would surprise me for the sedan to be an ICE at this point. But if it is for BEV development then why not a Model S/3. Could also be about the engine and have nothing to do with the body style. I believe ford was spied testing a Porsche Taycan quite recently as well. So it adds credibility to the idea that if we get a mustang sedan, there will likely be some electrified version. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted August 17, 2021 Share Posted August 17, 2021 A bit late in the game for an ICE sedan but maybe Ford is revisiting Charger Hellcat looking at possibilities, CD6 car cancelled early but maybe the graft of S550 using CD6 modules now puts a sedan within reach? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twin Turbo Posted August 17, 2021 Author Share Posted August 17, 2021 5 hours ago, jpd80 said: A bit late in the game for an ICE sedan but maybe Ford is revisiting Charger Hellcat looking at possibilities, CD6 car cancelled early but maybe the graft of S550 using CD6 modules now puts a sedan within reach? This is what I'm hoping. I'm gutted that CD6 was cancelled as the potential for mouth watering RWD sedan/coupes (including Lincoln) was there for the taking. Perhaps Ford see a better return on investment if S650 is stretched to include a 4 door sedan/coupe. Right now though, I'd settle for a spy shot of a proper S650 prototype to give me confidence we're really getting a new Mustang in the next 12/18 months 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twin Turbo Posted August 18, 2021 Author Share Posted August 18, 2021 The Drive.........simply reporting what Ford Authority reported.........but I like the "the people demand answers" ? https://www.thedrive.com/news/42033/ford-is-testing-a-dodge-charger-hellcat-and-the-people-demand-answers?fbclid=IwAR35Uz77SnLWbrnZvZjVCHpzTY72W5K85Qn9aKgNPbfZyhv7QWkN00OeBXQ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FordBuyer Posted August 18, 2021 Share Posted August 18, 2021 On 8/16/2021 at 11:44 PM, DeluxeStang said: I believe ford was spied testing a Porsche Taycan quite recently as well. So it adds credibility to the idea that if we get a mustang sedan, there will likely be some electrified version. I don't see it as Mach E is the 4 dr. Mustang. What I do see is a Lincoln 4 dr. BEV performance vehicle competing against the Taycan/Etron. The Charger is old school muscle car that will be extinct by 2025 if not before. Mustang 5.0 only days are numbered too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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