Broncofan7 Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 2023 Ford Super Duty Prototype Spotted Testing For First Time (fordauthority.com) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JX1 Posted October 25, 2021 Share Posted October 25, 2021 On 10/19/2021 at 2:43 PM, Broncofan7 said: 2023 Ford Super Duty Prototype Spotted Testing For First Time (fordauthority.com) I keep forgetting to comment on this, but finally! All this time I have been wondering when I will see the P708 Super Duty testing, as it's supposed to be a 2023 model, but ehhh... Hearing now about the next F-150, wonder what Ford has up their sleeves for the P708 replacement in 2028? Can EV be sustainable for the 2500 - 4500 segment, within the next 7 years? How about hybrids? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeluxeStang Posted October 25, 2021 Share Posted October 25, 2021 So, is this wearing production bodywork or is it testing with the current gen's bodywork? I genuinely can't tell lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JX1 Posted October 26, 2021 Share Posted October 26, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, DeluxeStang said: So, is this wearing production bodywork or is it testing with the current gen's bodywork? I genuinely can't tell lol. Until you asked this question, I didn't really look closer, but this does recall the VERY, VERY first actual prototypes of the outgoing P558 in April 2015. Ironically appeared right after this leak in March 2015 from a dealer conference. Reveal was September 2015 at State Fair of Texas, Job 1 in July 2016 in Louisville, and on the sales floor by September 2016. Prior to that, in 2014 and early 2015, all we got were spy shots of old body mules, based on the P473 SD. These shots of the 2020MY MCA back in 2018, give an idea of the differences from the vehicle above. Here are some more of larger examples. https://fordauthority.com/2021/10/2023-ford-super-duty-supercrew-prototype-spotted-testing/ Unlike the 2016 vs 2017, this reuses the same architecture, like the 2021 F-150, so it's easily too hard to differentiate for most guys I can imagine. Edited October 26, 2021 by JX1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7Mary3 Posted October 27, 2021 Share Posted October 27, 2021 I hear the 6.2L is finally going to be dropped in 2023. As for P708, I hear it might be going to a 'mixed' metal construction. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fordmantpw Posted October 27, 2021 Share Posted October 27, 2021 Heck, by the time my '22 order gets scheduled, it may end up being a '23 model. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FordBuyer Posted October 27, 2021 Share Posted October 27, 2021 12 hours ago, 7Mary3 said: I hear the 6.2L is finally going to be dropped in 2023. As for P708, I hear it might be going to a 'mixed' metal construction. With magnesium in short supply, Ford may have to change things up a bit. However, steel costs have gone up faster than aluminum costs in past year.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7Mary3 Posted October 28, 2021 Share Posted October 28, 2021 15 hours ago, FordBuyer said: With magnesium in short supply, Ford may have to change things up a bit. However, steel costs have gone up faster than aluminum costs in past year.. Yes, but I have feeling the all aluminum bodied F series is costing Ford a lot of money. Lots of warranty expense caused by wind/water leaks and poor panel alignment. In addition, aluminum is still a lot more expensive than steel and they have to use more of it to maintain strength. No real weight advantage compared to GM and Ram. I am thinking advanced steel for the cab and bed, all moving panels aluminum alloy. Might be able to get by with less magnesium that way too. We'll see. BTW- couldn't help but notice the Bronco and Ranger are mostly steel..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CurtisH Posted October 28, 2021 Share Posted October 28, 2021 6 hours ago, 7Mary3 said: BTW- couldn't help but notice the Bronco and Ranger are mostly steel..... I believe all of the Bronco’s body panels are aluminum. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7Mary3 Posted October 28, 2021 Share Posted October 28, 2021 3 hours ago, CurtisH said: I believe all of the Bronco’s body panels are aluminum. External panels are aluminum, frame, floor and firewall structure is steel. Which is what I think the F series will go to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted October 28, 2021 Share Posted October 28, 2021 30 minutes ago, 7Mary3 said: External panels are aluminum, frame, floor and firewall structure is steel. Which is what I think the F series will go to. Isnt that what F series does now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fordmantpw Posted October 28, 2021 Share Posted October 28, 2021 1 hour ago, akirby said: Isnt that what F series does now? The entire cab is Al, with certain areas strengthened by steel. Frame is still steel in F-Series. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twintornados Posted October 28, 2021 Share Posted October 28, 2021 13 minutes ago, fordmantpw said: The entire cab is Al, with certain areas strengthened by steel. Frame is still steel in F-Series. I would guess that any redesign would replace the steel reinforcement with a poly carbonate material or even graphene. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fordmantpw Posted October 28, 2021 Share Posted October 28, 2021 3 hours ago, twintornados said: I would guess that any redesign would replace the steel reinforcement with a poly carbonate material or even graphene. Yes, but it won't happen for 2023...this is a refresh, not a redesign. I could be wrong, but I don't expect any change that major for a refresh. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twintornados Posted October 28, 2021 Share Posted October 28, 2021 26 minutes ago, fordmantpw said: Yes, but it won't happen for 2023...this is a refresh, not a redesign. I could be wrong, but I don't expect any change that major for a refresh. I get what you are saying, is why I said "redesign" .... nothing that drastic on a refresh of existing product. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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