jasonj80 Posted November 13, 2021 Share Posted November 13, 2021 (edited) This will actually hurt sales, 60k pickups and full size SUV’s without heated seats and steering wheels is not a good place to be in with the market the way it is. These are feature sought out by buyers and could easily have buyers looking at other brands. https://www.autonews.com/automakers-suppliers/gm-removes-popular-heated-seats-option-much-lineup-due-chip-shortage https://www.carscoops.com/2021/11/chip-shortage-will-cause-drivers-to-freeze-their-butts-off-as-gm-axes-heated-seats/ Edited November 13, 2021 by jasonj80 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbone Posted November 14, 2021 Share Posted November 14, 2021 3 hours ago, jasonj80 said: This will actually hurt sales, 60k pickups and full size SUV’s without heated seats and steering wheels is not a good place to be in with the market the way it is. These are feature sought out by buyers and could easily have buyers looking at other brands. https://www.autonews.com/automakers-suppliers/gm-removes-popular-heated-seats-option-much-lineup-due-chip-shortage https://www.carscoops.com/2021/11/chip-shortage-will-cause-drivers-to-freeze-their-butts-off-as-gm-axes-heated-seats/ This doesn’t seem like a great idea, especially for those potential customers in north. I was just using mine a little bit ago. I would consider postponing my purchase If Ford did something like that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasonj80 Posted November 14, 2021 Author Share Posted November 14, 2021 (edited) Heated seats are the number 2 option requested feature in a new vehicle after blind spot monitoring. I This is the issue when you outsource everything. Ironically there is the old GM/Delco/Delphi chip plant that is sitting vacant and being used as a parking lot to store vehicles with no chips because GM didn’t want to invest in updating it to make chips. Edited November 14, 2021 by jasonj80 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rperez817 Posted November 14, 2021 Share Posted November 14, 2021 BMW is also doing feature deletion for multiple models in its product range due to the chip shortage. In BMW's case, they are shipping vehicles to customers without touchscreen and parking assistant features. BMW removes touchscreen functionality from some new cars due to chip shortage - Roadshow (cnet.com) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gurgeh Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 (edited) Mercedes Benz is also doing this sort of thing. They have canceled (almost) all of their V8 configurations for 2022 because they take more chips. They are still allowing people to do factory orders with whatever options they want, but when those vehicles arrive at the dealerships they will often have features like wireless charging or augmented reality missing, leaving the purchasers steamed especially with delays being so common on special orders. I saw a GLE 63 (a really expensive hot-rod version of the GLE) at one dealership with a very old style analogue driver's dash. It was a special order that the buyer refused. I am considering a factory order for a GLE 450. If I go ahead and if it comes with a bunch of features missing I would be inclined to also refuse the purchase as I'll be buying out my Lincoln Nautilus lease and will have the ability to wait as long as I want until I find exactly what I want. (At this point, it looks like it might be a long wait.) Edited November 15, 2021 by Gurgeh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ovaltine Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 (edited) ? ? ? -Ovaltine Edited November 15, 2021 by Ovaltine 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmc523 Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 19 hours ago, Gurgeh said: Mercedes Benz is also doing this sort of thing. They have canceled (almost) all of their V8 configurations for 2022 because they take more chips. They are still allowing people to do factory orders with whatever options they want, but when those vehicles arrive at the dealerships they will often have features like wireless charging or augmented reality missing, leaving the purchasers steamed especially with delays being so common on special orders. I saw a GLE 63 (a really expensive hot-rod version of the GLE) at one dealership with a very old style analogue driver's dash. It was a special order that the buyer refused. I am considering a factory order for a GLE 450. If I go ahead and if it comes with a bunch of features missing I would be inclined to also refuse the purchase as I'll be buying out my Lincoln Nautilus lease and will have the ability to wait as long as I want until I find exactly what I want. (At this point, it looks like it might be a long wait.) My mom just got an (ordered) X7 - and it doesn't have the wireless phone charger because of a lack of chips. Luckily hers was built/delivered before they removed the touchscreen ability mentioned above. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ford Username Posted November 18, 2021 Share Posted November 18, 2021 Next to go....power steering. ?? Bringing the 1980s back to you as part of their retro style package, includes manual window rollers... lol 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winnipesaukee1 Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 No heated seats definitely would have delayed my purchase of a 22 SD. Nothing better than getting in the truck when it’s in the teens and the seats are all warmed up already. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rperez817 Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 GM announced late Friday that it will allow certain vehicles built without heated and ventilated seats to be retrofitted with those features by dealership service departments. This retrofit capability does not apply to heated steering wheel. GM to dealers: Heated seats will be in more 2022 vehicles (freep.com) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbone Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 9 hours ago, rperez817 said: GM announced late Friday that it will allow certain vehicles built without heated and ventilated seats to be retrofitted with those features by dealership service departments. This retrofit capability does not apply to heated steering wheel. GM to dealers: Heated seats will be in more 2022 vehicles (freep.com) It appears there must have been negative feedback regarding this idea, otherwise they wouldn’t have proposed this. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gabby.m Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 I find heated seats to be useless if you use a seat cover to protect your seats as I use a seat cover in my F150 Limited in order to protect my cars seats and the heated seats are useless with them but they are so worth it if you don’t use a seat cover as my husband Mercedes S class has heated seats and he does not use seat covers for his car and they work really well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twintornados Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 2 hours ago, gabby.m said: I find heated seats to be useless if you use a seat cover to protect your seats as I use a seat cover in my F150 Limited in order to protect my cars seats and the heated seats are useless with them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CKNSLS Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 Due to a lot of static from everybody-GM has now backed off and will have dealers install the chips to operate the heated seats . The heated steering wheels are still not available except on the highest trim levels. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blwnsmoke Posted November 25, 2021 Share Posted November 25, 2021 On 11/23/2021 at 5:21 AM, gabby.m said: I find heated seats to be useless if you use a seat cover to protect your seats as I use a seat cover in my F150 Limited in order to protect my cars seats and the heated seats are useless with them but they are so worth it if you don’t use a seat cover as my husband Mercedes S class has heated seats and he does not use seat covers for his car and they work really well. That's like saying I need to sit on the seat naked because if I wear pants, they are useless. 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gabby.m Posted November 25, 2021 Share Posted November 25, 2021 On 11/23/2021 at 2:07 PM, CKNSLS said: Due to a lot of static from everybody-GM has now backed off and will have dealers install the chips to operate the heated seats . The heated steering wheels are still not available except on the highest trim levels. Glad to hear that but I wonder why they can’t just put the heated steering wheel chip as well whenever that chip is in stock Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrisgb Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 This was one "wussified" peeve I had when ordering my 2021 Ranger XL STX: heated seats were only available in the XLT High pkg and Lariat. I had aftermarket seat heaters installed on mine and they work great. The fact that an auto-dimming mirror is standard on an XL, but downgraded to a manual day/night when ordering Co-pilot 360 confounds me, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrisgb Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 On 11/21/2021 at 4:03 PM, rperez817 said: GM announced late Friday that it will allow certain vehicles built without heated and ventilated seats to be retrofitted with those features by dealership service departments. This retrofit capability does not apply to heated steering wheel. GM to dealers: Heated seats will be in more 2022 vehicles (freep.com) On 11/23/2021 at 1:07 PM, CKNSLS said: Due to a lot of static from everybody-GM has now backed off and will have dealers install the chips to operate the heated seats . The heated steering wheels are still not available except on the highest trim levels. Savvy gm dealers will order lots of these: 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RGIll Posted December 17, 2021 Share Posted December 17, 2021 Removing these was a crazy stupid move on the part of the manufacturer. Heated seats are almost a requirement now for most drivers. There are many other features they could have dropped without affecting the heated seats. I was very happy when ordering our BS to see that the heated seats and steering wheel were still available. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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