passis Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 19 hours ago, bzcat said: Edit: Ford Ranger reveal/press release and videos are not on the Argentina or Brazil section of media.ford.com but is on the Australia, Europe, Middle East, North Africa, South Africa, and Thailand sections. Draw your own conclusions... In an effort to be optimistic (...), I think this might have to do with the fact that production in Argentina is not expected until 2023, probably as 24MY. Before launching the Ranger they tend to publicize other new products here, such as the Mach E - possibly the F150 (for Brazil) and the big Bronco (very few of them) too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildosvt Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 23 hours ago, fuzzymoomoo said: Ive heard from someone I highly respect that it's a matter of when, not if for a third shift so maybe they can use one to help justify the other. Can't even get Tag goin.. Not that I am a fan... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzymoomoo Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 20 minutes ago, wildosvt said: Can't even get Tag goin.. Not that I am a fan... Oh I agree there's a lot to solve before we get to that point. Can't run without parts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ice-capades Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 50 minutes ago, wildosvt said: Can't even get Tag goin.. Not that I am a fan... Sorry... I have no idea what you're talking about! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzymoomoo Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 55 minutes ago, ice-capades said: Sorry... I have no idea what you're talking about! I do and I think that was intentional on his part. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeluxeStang Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 14 hours ago, T-dubz said: here’s the sport vs the clay model. They look pretty similar. Even has the line that makes it look like there’s a separate bumper there. That front end looks slightly better imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ausrutherford Posted November 27, 2021 Share Posted November 27, 2021 On 11/25/2021 at 1:51 PM, bzcat said: Yea, I forgot about that spy photo of regular cab. Another interesting observation... all the articles and even Ford's own press kits said production will begin in Thailand and South Africa next year, followed by US. No mention of Argentina. It's almost as if Ford is hedging its bet on whether new Ranger will really be build there. Despite the investment in Argentina... Edit: Ford Ranger reveal/press release and videos are not on the Argentina or Brazil section of media.ford.com but is on the Australia, Europe, Middle East, North Africa, South Africa, and Thailand sections. Draw your own conclusions... I would not read too much into that. Argentine Ranger production usually begins two years after Thailand and South Africa. From what I have heard, the expansion to the Ford plant there have already started. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bzcat Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 On 11/27/2021 at 6:34 AM, ausrutherford said: I would not read too much into that. Argentine Ranger production usually begins two years after Thailand and South Africa. From what I have heard, the expansion to the Ford plant there have already started. I guess maybe the Americas are on the same launch schedule? We'll probably learn more too when VW reveals its Amarok and where it will be build. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rodrigo Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 1 hour ago, bzcat said: Supongo que tal vez América esté en el mismo calendario de lanzamiento. Probablemente también aprendamos más cuando VW revele su Amarok y dónde se construirá. Here in Argentina is going to begin to be produced in 2023. Remember that WV dropped from the joint project for this region, 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ausrutherford Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 59 minutes ago, Rodrigo said: Here in Argentina is going to begin to be produced in 2023. Remember that WV dropped from the joint project for this region, Amarok sales in South America were very poor from the beginning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 7 hours ago, Rodrigo said: Here in Argentina is going to begin to be produced in 2023. Remember that WV dropped from the joint project for this region, All Amoroks will be built by Ford in South Africa, it might be easier to ship them to South America or maybe not…….. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
passis Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 11 hours ago, jpd80 said: All Amoroks will be built by Ford in South Africa, it might be easier to ship them to South America or maybe not…….. I wouldn't count on an imported Amarok here, at least not in Brazil, due to tariffs. Also, VW is preparing production of the Tarok (a Maverick competitor) for around the same time the Amarok leaves the market, in 2024 or so. I guess VW will settle with only one (MQB) trucklet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bzcat Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 I guess that makes sense... VW will just exit the midsize pickup market in South America. Stellantis and Renault both tried and failed too. Hard to go up against Toyota, GM, and Ford - pickup trucks are core products for these three and they are not going to back down without a fight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 On 11/26/2021 at 2:17 AM, T-dubz said: here’s the sport vs the clay model. They look pretty similar. Even has the line that makes it look like there’s a separate bumper there. This gives me hope that the US version won't have the fangs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blksn8k2 Posted November 30, 2021 Share Posted November 30, 2021 22 hours ago, Anthony said: This gives me hope that the US version won't have the fangs. They don't look nearly as hideous on models where they are body color. Regardless, it's still a huge improvement over the current model which looks too car-like IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blksn8k2 Posted November 30, 2021 Share Posted November 30, 2021 Speaking of car-like, the '07 through '10 Explorer and Sport Trac had a similar design on the lower "bumper". BTW, all those muddy streaks on the hood were actually done by a black bear. If you look close enough you can even make out a few paw prints here and there. ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony Posted November 30, 2021 Share Posted November 30, 2021 (edited) Note: both overseas models....(note the missing wheel flares, different taillights, and tailgate on the current model in the above pic). But it gives you an idea of the changes involved. Very nice nip and tuck. Edited November 30, 2021 by Anthony 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ausrutherford Posted December 1, 2021 Share Posted December 1, 2021 3 hours ago, Anthony said: Note: both overseas models....(note the missing wheel flares, different taillights, and tailgate on the current model in the above pic). But it gives you an idea of the changes involved. Very nice nip and tuck. Worth noting, the "RANGER" is now stamped into the tailgate of the global Ranger instead of the decals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benpack61 Posted December 1, 2021 Share Posted December 1, 2021 It's a good looking truck! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benpack61 Posted December 1, 2021 Share Posted December 1, 2021 Hopefully the sales numbers go up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benpack61 Posted December 1, 2021 Share Posted December 1, 2021 Still shocked they come out with the Maverick. Concerned it will hurt thr Ranger/ F150 sales Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bzcat Posted December 1, 2021 Share Posted December 1, 2021 18 hours ago, Anthony said: Note: both overseas models....(note the missing wheel flares, different taillights, and tailgate on the current model in the above pic). But it gives you an idea of the changes involved. Very nice nip and tuck. Assuming this was done at correct scale and size and using identical trim, looks like the new one has higher beltline... The windows seems to be about an inch higher than before and the roof maybe 1.5 inch higher (some of that could be suspension height... like I said, not sure if they picked the same model). Dropping the flared wheel arch in favor of wider bed was a good decision. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-dubz Posted December 1, 2021 Share Posted December 1, 2021 (edited) On 11/30/2021 at 4:49 PM, Anthony said: Note: both overseas models....(note the missing wheel flares, different taillights, and tailgate on the current model in the above pic). But it gives you an idea of the changes involved. Very nice nip and tuck. From this angle the new one looks a bit like the new frontier. You can really see that squared up front end. Edited December 1, 2021 by T-dubz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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ryant601 Posted December 2, 2021 Share Posted December 2, 2021 On 12/1/2021 at 7:55 AM, benpack61 said: Still shocked they come out with the Maverick. Concerned it will hurt thr Ranger/ F150 sales I don't think it will, I feel like the truck segment is one of the most fragmented in the auto industry. Plenty of it is looks, but the Maverick isn't close to as capable as the Ranger with respect to towing. That said, price point is probably the biggest barrier to the truck segment and the Maverick smashes through that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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