Fogbelly Posted January 21, 2022 Share Posted January 21, 2022 (edited) It was a proven reliable motor. Instead of a completely new design....... Why didn't they slap on some modern electronics and stuff it in the SD? Edited January 21, 2022 by Fogbelly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Slick Posted January 21, 2022 Share Posted January 21, 2022 (edited) Because the 460 was a dog compared to the 7.3. Everything about the 7.3 is designed to be stronger and more reliable than the 460 and the 7.3 has way more HP and torque. Didn't like my 460, love my 7.3. Edited January 21, 2022 by Tom Slick 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mackinaw Posted January 21, 2022 Share Posted January 21, 2022 2 hours ago, Fogbelly said: It was a proven reliable motor. Instead of a completely new design....... Why didn't they slap on some modern electronics and stuff it in the SD? Probably because of emissions and fuel economy requirements. The 385 series was designed in the late 60's before the 1970's oil embargo, which changed everything. A pity, the 429/460 were great engines, capable of massive amounts of horsepower with those free-flowing, canted valve heads. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laws Posted January 21, 2022 Share Posted January 21, 2022 Even if they resurrected the 460 it would likely not interchange many parts with the old ones due to new technologies, thinner efficient oil, materials for weight savings etc.. Also they would probably need new tooling for everything even if parts were interchangeable. At that point why limit yourself to the old design (it was good, but not perfect)? To my understanding they re-used a lot of the 6.7 psd designs to save development money, so it wasn't completely starting over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bshort Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 Had a 460 in 1993. My 7.3 gets the same fuel mileage. 11 empty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pilotpip Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 Yes, but what kind of HP and Torque numbers was that 460 getting at 11mpg? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSchicago Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 23 hours ago, Fogbelly said: It was a proven reliable motor. Instead of a completely new design....... Why didn't they slap on some modern electronics and stuff it in the SD? Technology has changed a lot in over 50 years. Why not resurrect the Flathead? Or Model T? The new engine will be more fuel efficient, pass current emissions, and be just as capable power wise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bshort Posted January 23, 2022 Share Posted January 23, 2022 22 hours ago, pilotpip said: Yes, but what kind of HP and Torque numbers was that 460 getting at 11mpg? The 460 made a lot of noise, but not much power. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattdm Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 Because technology has improved a great deal in the last 50 years. Modern engines are very different in almost every aspect from the old big blocks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShelbyKR Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 The 460 was produced for 30 years. Very durable motor with 3" main bearings. Running a 600hp version with aluminum SCJ heads designed by Jon Kaase in my 68 Mustang. Ford hasn't made a pushrod motor in over 20 years why would you go back to that technology when you have have good success with overhead cams. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 Cost and size. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twintornados Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 Well, you could just get an "old tech" BB Chevrolet engine over at Power Solutions International https://psiengines.com/products/8-8-liter-transportation/ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bshort Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 23 hours ago, twintornados said: Well, you could just get an "old tech" BB Chevrolet engine over at Power Solutions International https://psiengines.com/products/8-8-liter-transportation/ At 265hp/548tq, that poor thing needs some life put in it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twintornados Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 20 minutes ago, bshort said: At 265hp/548tq, that poor thing needs some life put in it. For stationary applications, it is good Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUEC135ELEVATOR Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 8 hours ago, twintornados said: For stationary applications, it is good Would make one hell of a generator engine? ( to power a neighborhood) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
road turtle Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 1 hour ago, IUEC135ELEVATOR said: ( to power a neighborhood) or a couple of houses charging EV 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twintornados Posted January 27, 2022 Share Posted January 27, 2022 10 hours ago, road turtle said: or a couple of houses charging EV Controlling a stationary powerplant unit emissions is far more effective than controlling the emissions of those "couple of houses charging EV" units...but that is a discussion for another thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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