T-dubz Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 https://fordauthority.com/2022/01/2023-toyota-sequoia-ford-expedition-rival-leaked-ahead-of-debut/ Looks pretty good. It kinda has a VW Atlas mixed with a Tundra feel to it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmc523 Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 It looks bloated to me, but so does/did the outgoing one. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dlcorbett Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 I wonder if they were able to carve out more space the the lx or if it has the same amount of room. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-dubz Posted January 25, 2022 Author Share Posted January 25, 2022 21 minutes ago, rmc523 said: It looks bloated to me, but so does/did the outgoing one. Hard to imagine anything looking more bloated than the current one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tk421 Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 That front end...woof. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dlcorbett Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 Did toyota benchmark the last gen gms for their new suvs? It's like they regressed. Shorter, solid rear axle, tighter third row, less space behind rear seat? Outside of the engine, which ford needs to add to expy/nav like yesterday, it's not very compelling. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmc523 Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 47 minutes ago, Dlcorbett said: Did toyota benchmark the last gen gms for their new suvs? It's like they regressed. Shorter, solid rear axle, tighter third row, less space behind rear seat? Outside of the engine, which ford needs to add to expy/nav like yesterday, it's not very compelling. Where did you come up with all that when we have no data on any of that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dlcorbett Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 There's plenty of press articles and videos on the sequoia, have you not seen any? https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a38857490/2023-toyota-sequoia-revealed-hybrid/ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rperez817 Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 Official Toyota press release and photos for 2023 Sequoia. Standing Tall: All-New 2023 Sequoia Full-Size SUV is Ready to Make its Mark - Toyota USA Newsroom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmc523 Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 15 hours ago, Dlcorbett said: There's plenty of press articles and videos on the sequoia, have you not seen any? https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a38857490/2023-toyota-sequoia-revealed-hybrid/ Considering it hadn't debuted, nor was I seeking info about it out, no I hadn't. 4 hours ago, rperez817 said: Official Toyota press release and photos for 2023 Sequoia. Standing Tall: All-New 2023 Sequoia Full-Size SUV is Ready to Make its Mark - Toyota USA Newsroom This thing manages to look like several different vehicles at the same time lol. The third row - as pointed out above - looks especially bad - very upright and seats basically on the floor And on top of that, it doesn't even result in a fully flat floor - they have to revert to tricks like this shelf to create a flat floor. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dlcorbett Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 It does have some neat features and looks pretty good. However, the third row room/cargo and sla rear kinda prevent me from wanting to look at it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atomcat68 Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 It looks better in darker colors. There isn't many ways to design a box to make it stand out, so they are adding creases just for the sake of it, hoping they look different than the creases that Hyundai to Nissan might add. Although i don't hate it, I have no emotional attachment to it whatsoever. I guess the only good thing is that you can see a family resemblance to the RAV4, but that's it. At least the RAV4 wears that style much better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FordBuyer Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 On 1/26/2022 at 5:00 PM, Dlcorbett said: It does have some neat features and looks pretty good. However, the third row room/cargo and sla rear kinda prevent me from wanting to look at it. The key feature is that it comes standard as a hybrid. That alone makes it worthy of a look, especially since no other large SUV offers hybrid version. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dlcorbett Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 1 hour ago, FordBuyer said: The key feature is that it comes standard as a hybrid. That alone makes it worthy of a look, especially since no other large SUV offers hybrid version. True, but this also depends. When I had my expy, I knew how to drive it to mostly maximize its fe, so on hwy trips, it would regularly travel 525+ miles on 23 gal. We don't know specs, im eager to see how big the tank is. I think this is why ford didn't add the powerboost the fords refresh, nowhere to put the battery without heavily sacrificing fuel capacity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbone Posted January 29, 2022 Share Posted January 29, 2022 (edited) I don’t mind it. It’s definitely better looking than the outgoing model, although it wasn’t difficult. The front fascia looks slightly different than the Tundra to me in a good way, but I’m too lazy to do a side by side comparison. The hybrid feature is good. Ford must not want to spend the money on repackaging the Expedition to accommodate the Powerboost. I hope that means we will see the fully redesigned Expedition sooner rather than later from a competition standpoint. Edited January 29, 2022 by tbone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FordBuyer Posted January 29, 2022 Share Posted January 29, 2022 17 hours ago, tbone said: I don’t mind it. It’s definitely better looking than the outgoing model, although it wasn’t difficult. The front fascia looks slightly different than the Tundra to me in a good way, but I’m too lazy to do a side by side comparison. The hybrid feature is good. Ford must not want to spend the money on repackaging the Expedition to accommodate the Powerboost. I hope that means we will see the fully redesigned Expedition sooner rather than later from a competition standpoint. With $5 gas probably coming this summer, Ford needs to make more hybrids in every segment. The most fuel thrifty brands will sell the best. Toyota, Kia, and Ford if it can get more hybrid components are the most ready for $100 oil. And the Explorer hybrid needs a bigger battery. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dlcorbett Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 Toyota tundra hybrid numbers aren't looking drastically higher than anything Ford produces. The expy without the hybrid should almost match the sequoia ayleast in hwy driving. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingRanchRuby Posted February 11, 2022 Share Posted February 11, 2022 That front end looks like its a thousand pounds...too much bulk! As being someone who drives an Expedition Max...floor space is everything and that 'fold flat' floor from Toyota is atrocious! I wonder how it will compare in fuel economy to the Expedition. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAFFS89 Posted April 5, 2022 Share Posted April 5, 2022 Gross. Not a fan of the new Tundra either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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