Future Fuel: Porsche Sponsors Major eFuel Initiative—at $45/Gallon

[silvrsvt]

https://www.motortrend.com/features/porsche-supercup-efuel-direct-air-carbon-capture/?sm_id=organic_fb_MT_trueanthem&utm_campaign=&utm_medium=&utm_source=&fbclid=IwAR12hH9xfN7Z9wyNTwO8XlvuEH8YrM0_Uz3zodsCtOenOIliggrUHCOJOaA

 

So eventually they want to get it down to around $7-8 a gallon...so still not a viable alternative for every day use. 

[twintornados]

It will need to scale up dramatically to be viable. The obvious plus is the carbon capture portion of the process.

[focus05]

10 hours ago, silvrsvt said:

https://www.motortrend.com/features/porsche-supercup-efuel-direct-air-carbon-capture/?sm_id=organic_fb_MT_trueanthem&utm_campaign=&utm_medium=&utm_source=&fbclid=IwAR12hH9xfN7Z9wyNTwO8XlvuEH8YrM0_Uz3zodsCtOenOIliggrUHCOJOaA

 

So eventually they want to get it down to around $7-8 a gallon...so still not a viable alternative for every day use. 

 

Aside from the environmental positives here, actually, if you look available supplies (proven and unproven reserves), increasing costs/risks of drilling (technical complexity, political instability), energy consumption growth, etc.  $7-$8 might be the right range in about 10-15 years to fully supplant oil and gas even without excess gov't subsidies for the fuel. 

 

If you look at all reserves of oil and gas - proven and unproven - we've got 150 years, but that quickly becomes more expensive to extract because deposits are lower, harder to extract, require moving people, etc.  Either we drastically reduce consumption to spread out the low price reserves (roughly the 10-15 years we're currently drilling or plan to drill) or the cost of consumption goes up.  Aside from keeping global warming under control, we will need to diversify our energy consumption to keep prices lower.  And for practical applications, aside from the fun of driving an ICE, we will need alternatives like efuels where solid energy storage (e.g., batteries) will take decades to be viable, like in airplanes.

 

 

[rmc523]

18 hours ago, twintornados said:

It will need to scale up dramatically to be viable. The obvious plus is the carbon capture portion of the process.

I’m going to laugh if they install these systems and then in a few years there'll be a CO2 shortage and we’ll have to make more 

[jpd80]

Some quarters were discussing using Ammonia (NH4) as a carbon less fuel in ICEs. A few problems with that but as a gaseous fuel, no worse than CNG or propane to roll out.

[FordBuyer]

On 5/5/2022 at 3:43 PM, silvrsvt said:

https://www.motortrend.com/features/porsche-supercup-efuel-direct-air-carbon-capture/?sm_id=organic_fb_MT_trueanthem&utm_campaign=&utm_medium=&utm_source=&fbclid=IwAR12hH9xfN7Z9wyNTwO8XlvuEH8YrM0_Uz3zodsCtOenOIliggrUHCOJOaA

 

So eventually they want to get it down to around $7-8 a gallon...so still not a viable alternative for every day use. 

 

Don't forget it's Porsche.... most Porsche owners don't have to worry much about energy prices. They want handling, performance, and that waaaah sound from their flat 6. And they are willing to spend mucho deneiro to obtain it.