silvrsvt Posted July 15, 2022 Share Posted July 15, 2022 https://www.thedrive.com/news/2023-toyota-crown-a-delightfully-strange-high-riding-hybrid-sedan?fbclid=IwAR18BQoA497yMvMAzgs8K1BGbK6D30-cjnbX9E7D92lz2JGcnKEvSOJ4AQ8 I'm not sure what to make of its styling-I just don't really see it resonating with buyers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted July 15, 2022 Share Posted July 15, 2022 Strange yes. Delightfully? Meh……… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twintornados Posted July 15, 2022 Share Posted July 15, 2022 I think this is their target competition and client audience Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silvrsvt Posted July 15, 2022 Author Share Posted July 15, 2022 4 hours ago, akirby said: Strange yes. Delightfully? Meh……… It’s a nice way of saying it’s ugly ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rperez817 Posted July 15, 2022 Share Posted July 15, 2022 7 hours ago, silvrsvt said: I'm not sure what to make of its styling-I just don't really see it resonating with buyers. The styling is either ugly or boring (maybe both), but that's true of most crossover type vehicles. As long as Toyota's marketing for this new Crown uses the "active lifestyle" gambit that has been so successful in popularizing crossovers in general, the car should resonate with consumers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dequindre Posted July 16, 2022 Share Posted July 16, 2022 It looks shockingly similar to the prior generation Honda Civic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CKNSLS Posted July 16, 2022 Share Posted July 16, 2022 Make a sedan that people can actually get in and out of easily and not call it a sedan. Sounds like it should sell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rperez817 Posted July 16, 2022 Share Posted July 16, 2022 Outside the U.S., there are 3 additional next gen Toyota Crown variants. 1. Sedan type, by far the most stylish of the trio, with influence from current gen Mirai. 2.) Estate or wagon type, with ugly crossover themed styling elements. 3.) Sport type, also with ugly crossover themed styling elements. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harley Lover Posted July 16, 2022 Share Posted July 16, 2022 I don't see how this will be any more successful than the Avalon it replaces. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AM222 Posted July 17, 2022 Share Posted July 17, 2022 (edited) On 7/15/2022 at 11:45 PM, silvrsvt said: https://www.thedrive.com/news/2023-toyota-crown-a-delightfully-strange-high-riding-hybrid-sedan?fbclid=IwAR18BQoA497yMvMAzgs8K1BGbK6D30-cjnbX9E7D92lz2JGcnKEvSOJ4AQ8 I'm not sure what to make of its styling-I just don't really see it resonating with buyers. I wonder if the new Crown crossover will convince Ford to sell the Evos outside China. Edited July 17, 2022 by AM222 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rperez817 Posted July 17, 2022 Share Posted July 17, 2022 On 7/16/2022 at 5:09 PM, Harley Lover said: I don't see how this will be any more successful than the Avalon it replaces. It all depends on Toyota's promotion strategy. As mentioned earlier, if they can incorporate an active lifestyle image into advertising, the high riding sedan version of new Toyota Crown should be more successful than Toyota Avalon, even though the current gen Avalon appears to be a superior product in most respects. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeluxeStang Posted July 18, 2022 Share Posted July 18, 2022 On 7/15/2022 at 2:21 PM, silvrsvt said: It’s a nice way of saying it’s ugly ? That design sure is... polarizing. Uh quick, throw out some buzzwords to cover up how ugly it is. Man, this design sure is dynamic and sustainable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AM222 Posted July 18, 2022 Share Posted July 18, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, DeluxeStang said: That design sure is... polarizing. Uh quick, throw out some buzzwords to cover up how ugly it is. Man, this design sure is dynamic and sustainable. The non-2-tone Crown crossover looks decent. -Car and Driver PS: I prefer the sleeker styling of the Ford Evos crossover when it comes to fastback crossovers. Edited July 18, 2022 by AM222 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markfnc Posted July 18, 2022 Share Posted July 18, 2022 Wasn't the Ford 500 (that replaced Taurus, then later renamed Taurus) marketed as being a high sitting sedan? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AM222 Posted July 18, 2022 Share Posted July 18, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, markfnc said: Wasn't the Ford 500 (that replaced Taurus, then later renamed Taurus) marketed as being a high sitting sedan? Yeah, I read that somewhere before. Compared to the traditional sedans, the 500 had a high more upright sitting position. It didn't seem to have a higher ground clearance though. The Crown crossover, Ford Evos, and Citroen C5 X for example are a bit taller than typical sedans but a percentage of their extra height also comes from the raised suspension/larger diameter tires. Edited July 18, 2022 by AM222 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silvrsvt Posted July 18, 2022 Author Share Posted July 18, 2022 1 hour ago, markfnc said: Wasn't the Ford 500 (that replaced Taurus, then later renamed Taurus) marketed as being a high sitting sedan? It was and it wasn't-the seating position on them was high like a SUV/CUV. To be honest, in my option it was fucking awful-the parents had a Sable and I felt like I was sitting in a highchair when I drove it. I got a 2013 Taurus SHO after the refresh was done in 2010 and they lowered the seating position on it...it was much better. The weird thing is I didn't notice how "high" it was till I got my brother in laws Fusion Hybrid to hold me over till my Bronco showed up. It was a slight pain in the butt to get in and out of due to my wife and I being used to her Escape and my SHO seating height. Her Escape feels low now after getting the Bronco LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrisgb Posted July 18, 2022 Share Posted July 18, 2022 5 hours ago, AM222 said: The non-2-tone Crown crossover looks decent. -Car and Driver PS: I prefer the sleeker styling of the Ford Evos crossover when it comes to fastback crossovers. All the Honda Crosstour Owners are saying, "See? Told ya!" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AM222 Posted July 18, 2022 Share Posted July 18, 2022 1 hour ago, Chrisgb said: All the Honda Crosstour Owners are saying, "See? Told ya!" Something is just seriously wrong with the Crosstour's prportions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CurtisH Posted July 18, 2022 Share Posted July 18, 2022 37 minutes ago, AM222 said: Something is just seriously wrong with the Crosstour's prportions. Agreed. I have never liked the look of the Crosstour. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fordmantpw Posted July 18, 2022 Share Posted July 18, 2022 2 hours ago, silvrsvt said: The weird thing is I didn't notice how "high" it was till I got my brother in laws Fusion Hybrid to hold me over till my Bronco showed up. It was a slight pain in the butt to get in and out of due to my wife and I being used to her Escape and my SHO seating height. Try going from a Super Duty to a '10 Milan. I've been driving the Milan more lately and I have to fall down into it, then it's like climbing a ladder to get back out. The opposite of the F350. LOL. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted July 18, 2022 Share Posted July 18, 2022 30 minutes ago, fordmantpw said: Try going from a Super Duty to a '10 Milan. I've been driving the Milan more lately and I have to fall down into it, then it's like climbing a ladder to get back out. The opposite of the F350. LOL. I thought the Ferrari was even worse. How about you? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
92merc Posted July 18, 2022 Share Posted July 18, 2022 You should try getting in the Vanderhall Carmel GTS I tried a week ago. Duck under roof, climb over door edge. Plop your arse down into the seat. Once in, I was fine. Oh, I want that vehicle. Good thing I didn't test drive it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrisgb Posted July 18, 2022 Share Posted July 18, 2022 3 hours ago, fordmantpw said: Try going from a Super Duty to a '10 Milan. I've been driving the Milan more lately and I have to fall down into it, then it's like climbing a ladder to get back out. The opposite of the F350. LOL. I've gotten used to the height of my '21 Rangers ut had the same "fall in experience" getting into my brother's Audi A3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fordmantpw Posted July 18, 2022 Share Posted July 18, 2022 3 hours ago, akirby said: I thought the Ferrari was even worse. How about you? Oh yes, definitely. Well, actually, I was so in awe that I don't remember actually climbing in. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silvrsvt Posted July 19, 2022 Author Share Posted July 19, 2022 On 7/18/2022 at 10:28 AM, CurtisH said: Agreed. I have never liked the look of the Crosstour. Don't forget about its platform mate, the Acura ZDX! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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