akirby Posted September 14, 2022 Share Posted September 14, 2022 We discussed this a few years back and decided to get rid of the Lincoln forum and merge the topics here, but only Robert can do that and he either forgot or decided not to do it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedHoncho01 Posted September 14, 2022 Share Posted September 14, 2022 Does anyone know when the dealer order guide for 2023 model year will be available on this forum? The last model year shown on the tab is 2022. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted September 14, 2022 Share Posted September 14, 2022 24 minutes ago, RedHoncho01 said: Does anyone know when the dealer order guide for 2023 model year will be available on this forum? The last model year shown on the tab is 2022. If the order bank opened on Monday then any day now. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ice-capades Posted September 14, 2022 Share Posted September 14, 2022 1 hour ago, RedHoncho01 said: Does anyone know when the dealer order guide for 2023 model year will be available on this forum? The last model year shown on the tab is 2022. The 2023 Lincoln Corsair Order Guides (U.S. & Canada) have been uploaded and are now available for download in the Dealer Order Guides section. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captainp4 Posted September 15, 2022 Share Posted September 15, 2022 I don't even know what engine our '17 reserve has, 2.0 ecoboost I think? I know it's more than she needs when I'm riding in the passenger seat though. ? I really like this new one, might be an upgrade in our future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmc523 Posted September 16, 2022 Share Posted September 16, 2022 I didn’t like the bigger grille at first but it’s grown on me, pun intended lol. not sure how I feel about the removal of hard switches, but I guess if it keeps a dedicated bar for those on the bottom of the screen, that’s ok. Better than having to tab over to the climate menu every time just to change the temperature or fan setting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joseodiaga4 Posted October 24, 2022 Share Posted October 24, 2022 The Chinese model is going to be different https://price.pcauto.com.cn/cars/m117632-o1/#picScroll Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasonj80 Posted October 24, 2022 Share Posted October 24, 2022 1 hour ago, joseodiaga4 said: The Chinese model is going to be different https://price.pcauto.com.cn/cars/m117632-o1/#picScroll I really do get the feeling that Ford wants Lincoln to fail in the US market. Sad there isn’t anyone in Dearborn fighting for Lincoln in the NA market. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rperez817 Posted October 24, 2022 Share Posted October 24, 2022 34 minutes ago, jasonj80 said: I really do get the feeling that Ford wants Lincoln to fail in the US market. Sad there isn’t anyone in Dearborn fighting for Lincoln in the NA market. The time is right for a renaissance at Lincoln as it transitions to a 100% electric vehicle lineup in NA. Earlier this year, Reuters reported that between now and 2026, Lincoln will introduce 5 new BEV SUV and crossover models for North America. Hopefully that is still on track. If that plan fails, Lincoln will be dead in NA. EXCLUSIVE Ford’s Lincoln brand to launch full slate of electric SUVs by 2026 -sources | Reuters Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captainp4 Posted October 24, 2022 Share Posted October 24, 2022 They are definitely making nice cars, we love the 2017 mkc we have. But they won't be aspirational or relevant without some wild flagship product. I doubt I would know the brand existed or care if I wasn't a Ford nut that owned a 64 continental. They need something like that new $300k caddy. Not necessarily expensive just to be expensive, but something that sets them apart from being a very, very nice Ford. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rperez817 Posted October 24, 2022 Share Posted October 24, 2022 1 hour ago, Captainp4 said: They need something like that new $300k caddy. Not necessarily expensive just to be expensive, but something that sets them apart from being a very, very nice Ford. That's exactly what Lincoln needs to elevate the brand, you summed it up perfectly Captainp4. Maybe they're working on a production version of the Star Concept vehicle that debuted this spring? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captainp4 Posted October 24, 2022 Share Posted October 24, 2022 29 minutes ago, rperez817 said: That's exactly what Lincoln needs to elevate the brand, you summed it up perfectly Captainp4. Maybe they're working on a production version of the Star Concept vehicle that debuted this spring? It's cool looking cgi I guess, just have seen so many REALLY cool concepts from Lincoln over the years that never went anywhere. I'm still mad about the MKR ? and a more reasonable actually doable option of the suicide doors on the last gen continental that cut down to aftermarket 100 units or whatever it was. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasonj80 Posted October 24, 2022 Share Posted October 24, 2022 2 hours ago, Captainp4 said: They are definitely making nice cars, we love the 2017 mkc we have. But they won't be aspirational or relevant without some wild flagship product. I doubt I would know the brand existed or care if I wasn't a Ford nut that owned a 64 continental. They need something like that new $300k caddy. Not necessarily expensive just to be expensive, but something that sets them apart from being a very, very nice Ford. Having seen the Zepher in person on the roads around here, that would spark interest in the brand. Give some unique classy style. It is a beautiful vehicle and doesn’t look like anything else. It also looks very expensive. I’ve also seen the new Corsair and it doesn’t look anything like the Chinese version, if you’re a car person you notice that there has been a change to the nose. Back is untouched. I can see Ford management being just wait, just wait. Don’t do too much our current customers won’t like it. They spent extra money to make a Corsair version that is boring for the US market. Worse they’ll dumb down the concept style to appeal to a 85 year old farmers wife buyer from Tribune Kansas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted October 24, 2022 Share Posted October 24, 2022 2 hours ago, Captainp4 said: It's cool looking cgi I guess Not CGI it’s real. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbone Posted October 25, 2022 Share Posted October 25, 2022 6 hours ago, rperez817 said: If that plan fails, Lincoln will be dead in NA. I’m pretty certain that your opinion will not come true no matter what happens with their plan. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ice-capades Posted October 25, 2022 Share Posted October 25, 2022 The Lincoln brand has been on the chopping block several times. It exists primarily at the insistence and commitment of the Ford family as a matter of pride. A contributing factor to Lincoln's continued presence is its sales in China. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Handler Posted October 25, 2022 Share Posted October 25, 2022 I've seen plenty of new Lincolns in the New Orleans area since the new showroom opened. Judging by their social media page, they seem to be attracting younger, more affluent clientele. I'm not sure what else Lincoln could build in a such SUV dominant marketplace. Perhaps another go at a luxury truck? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rperez817 Posted October 25, 2022 Share Posted October 25, 2022 10 hours ago, ice-capades said: The Lincoln brand has been on the chopping block several times. It exists primarily at the insistence and commitment of the Ford family as a matter of pride. A contributing factor to Lincoln's continued presence is its sales in China. Lincoln is a much more respected brand in China than in any of its other markets. If jasonj80's impression that "Ford wants Lincoln to fail in the US market" is true nowadays, even the Ford family's commitment to the brand won't be enough to save it in that market long term. The success of Lincoln's product onslaught of 5 new BEV SUV in NA by 2026, and ultimately its transition to an all-electric vehicle lineup will make or break Lincoln outside China. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmc523 Posted October 25, 2022 Share Posted October 25, 2022 The current crop of Lincoln’s are great, but they’re now in “product lull” stage for another year or two minimum which isn’t good. It’s a shame that the Chinese market gets far more thorough updates more often than it’s home market. I understand it’s sort of a catch 22….sales aren’t gangbusters in the US, which means hesitation to invest in bigger refreshes, but conversely, are the lack of bigger refreshes keeping sales from pushing higher? I saw the new Corsair over the weekend at the auto show, and since it was a local dealer-supplied set of models, they had the current Corsair next to the new one, and I highly doubt most people even noticed the difference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captainp4 Posted October 25, 2022 Share Posted October 25, 2022 19 hours ago, akirby said: Not CGI it’s real. That video I quoted isn't CGI? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silvrsvt Posted October 25, 2022 Author Share Posted October 25, 2022 26 minutes ago, Captainp4 said: That video I quoted isn't CGI? It’s been repainted to this striking purple color 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captainp4 Posted October 25, 2022 Share Posted October 25, 2022 44 minutes ago, silvrsvt said: It’s been repainted to this striking purple color Where do I put my reservation in? ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted October 25, 2022 Share Posted October 25, 2022 2 hours ago, Captainp4 said: That video I quoted isn't CGI? Nope. We all assumed it was at first but it’s real. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captainp4 Posted October 25, 2022 Share Posted October 25, 2022 23 minutes ago, akirby said: Nope. We all assumed it was at first but it’s real. I mean, I see there's an actual concept But that first video really isn't cgi? I can't tell if you guys are f'in with me or not lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joseodiaga4 Posted January 3, 2023 Share Posted January 3, 2023 On 10/24/2022 at 7:53 PM, joseodiaga4 said: The Chinese model is going to be different https://price.pcauto.com.cn/cars/m117632-o1/#picScroll https://burlappcar.com/2022/12/2023-lincoln-corsair-vs-the-chinese-version.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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