akirby Posted December 20, 2022 Share Posted December 20, 2022 36 minutes ago, blksn8k2 said: Lack of any major styling changes doesn't seem to hinder Wrangler sales. If anything, that signature look is one of the things that has made it so popular. (cough) Porsche 911 (cough) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silvrsvt Posted December 20, 2022 Author Share Posted December 20, 2022 I dunno the Bronco has been out almost three years and there has been lots of styling changes with different fender types and special editions already. I don’t expect it to change radically over the course of its life time, but it will get updates to keep it fresh. Heck some aftermarket company already makes flush mounted taillights that could have been used as a MCE ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmc523 Posted December 21, 2022 Share Posted December 21, 2022 On 12/19/2022 at 4:47 PM, twintornados said: Everything evolves...Ford would do a huge disservice to Bronco if it let it just wither on the vine without updates to both tech AND styling. and the phone it in solution is to copy paste Ranger? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twintornados Posted December 22, 2022 Share Posted December 22, 2022 5 hours ago, rmc523 said: and the phone it in solution is to copy paste Ranger? Every design evolves....even today's Wrangler that looks quite similar to previous iterations, but they are very different. I am saying that Bronco will evolve, I just believe that it will take on Ranger styling cues as they both evolve. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harley Lover Posted December 22, 2022 Share Posted December 22, 2022 8 hours ago, twintornados said: Every design evolves....even today's Wrangler that looks quite similar to previous iterations, but they are very different. I am saying that Bronco will evolve, I just believe that it will take on Ranger styling cues as they both evolve. Again, Bronco is a Ford 'icon'. It makes zero sense to move it to F150 styling cues. If anything, Ford will add future products to the Bronco family that share its styling, ala Bronco Sport. That said, Ford have done some stupid things over the years, so you might end up being correct. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silvrsvt Posted December 22, 2022 Author Share Posted December 22, 2022 11 hours ago, twintornados said: Every design evolves....even today's Wrangler that looks quite similar to previous iterations, but they are very different. I am saying that Bronco will evolve, I just believe that it will take on Ranger styling cues as they both evolve. That makes zero sense whatsoever The Wrangler looks like a Wrangler The Mustang looks like a Mustang (with maybe the Mustang II, which technically doesn't count LOL and the Fox Mustangs till the early 1990s being the exception) The Bronco will look like a Bronco-There is zero incentive to make it look like a Ranger (did that with the Bronco II) or a F-150 (1980/90s full size Bronco) If the Bronco sells in the 150K+ a year range, it will have no issues paying for its own sheet metal stampings. Styling will be an evolution of what we currently have and no having as many sheetmetal changes encourages more aftermarket support like there is for the Wrangler. The Bronco is in a unique situation that it really only has one other "real" competitor and big changes are frowned upon in the segment. This isn't the old midsize car segment with 8 different competitors viving for the same piece of the pie. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AGR Posted December 22, 2022 Share Posted December 22, 2022 The 1971-73 Mustorinos didn't really look like Mustangs either. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted December 22, 2022 Share Posted December 22, 2022 49 minutes ago, AGR said: The 1971-73 Mustorinos didn't really look like Mustangs either. They looked much better. 71 boss 302 in grabber blue is my favorite. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AGR Posted December 22, 2022 Share Posted December 22, 2022 57 minutes ago, akirby said: They looked much better. 71 boss 302 in grabber blue is my favorite. I'm not a fan. As I have stated previously, I would rather have a Mustang II (Restomod of course) than the 1971-73s. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mackinaw Posted December 22, 2022 Share Posted December 22, 2022 3 hours ago, silvrsvt said: ...If the Bronco sells in the 150K+ a year range, it will have no issues paying for its own sheet metal stampings. Styling will be an evolution of what we currently have and no having as many sheetmetal changes encourages more aftermarket support like there is for the Wrangler..... I imagine Ford has identified what the Bronco "DNA" is, and will keep that basic style in the years going forward. Jeep, Mustang, etc., have all done the same thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captainp4 Posted December 22, 2022 Share Posted December 22, 2022 To be fair, Bronco spent more years looking like F150 than it did looking like the early bronco. But I do agree that in this iteration and it's current target market it makes more sense for it to remain unique and not blend with ranger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmc523 Posted December 22, 2022 Share Posted December 22, 2022 39 minutes ago, Captainp4 said: To be fair, Bronco spent more years looking like F150 than it did looking like the early bronco. But I do agree that in this iteration and it's current target market it makes more sense for it to remain unique and not blend with ranger. true. But that approach also eventually led to its demise and/or transformation into Expedition (F-150’s SUV twin became Expy). I think we’ll see a Wrangler-esque “massaging” of the 2021 design for redesigns going forward. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ehaase Posted December 22, 2022 Share Posted December 22, 2022 4 hours ago, akirby said: They looked much better. 71 boss 302 in grabber blue is my favorite. Of course, for 71 it was Boss 351, which was its only year. Boss 302 and 429 were 69 and 70 only. I like both the 71-73 and the Mustang II, which was a decent car for its era, contrary to popular opinion. In my opinion, the current model is too expensive, too overstyled, and maybe too capable. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mackinaw Posted December 22, 2022 Share Posted December 22, 2022 1 hour ago, ehaase said: ......I like both the 71-73 and the Mustang II, which was a decent car for its era, contrary to popular opinion. In my opinion, the current model is too expensive, too overstyled, and maybe too capable. I never warmed up to the 71-73 Bunkie Knudsen Mustang (to me, they were too big, heavy and ungainly), but you can't argue with the success of the Mustang II. Absolutely perfect timing coming out on the heels of the first gas crisis. Sales went from 135,000 (1973) to 386,000 (1974). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted December 22, 2022 Share Posted December 22, 2022 Speaking of mustangs just saw a teenager wrap his dad’s brand new mustang around a tree on the entry road to our subdivision. Took out the front end. That road gets very slick but it was a straight section so he probably gunned the throttle and broke the rear end loose and spun off the road into a tree. No injuries. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coupe3w Posted December 22, 2022 Share Posted December 22, 2022 6 hours ago, akirby said: They looked much better. 71 boss 302 in grabber blue is my favorite. No Boss 302 in 71. Boss 351 in 71 Boss 302 and 429 in 69 and 70. But it's your favorite, I can't argue if you were referring to the 70 Boss 302. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted December 22, 2022 Share Posted December 22, 2022 1 hour ago, coupe3w said: No Boss 302 in 71. Boss 351 in 71 Boss 302 and 429 in 69 and 70. But it's your favorite, I can't argue if you were referring to the 70 Boss 302. Not an expert on the exact years and engines. I like both the boss 302 and 351. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted December 24, 2022 Share Posted December 24, 2022 (edited) On 12/23/2022 at 2:45 AM, mackinaw said: I imagine Ford has identified what the Bronco "DNA" is, and will keep that basic style in the years going forward. Jeep, Mustang, etc., have all done the same thing. Absolutely, that’s why Bronco was developed first before Ranger and Everest. Edited December 24, 2022 by jpd80 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmc523 Posted December 25, 2022 Share Posted December 25, 2022 On 12/23/2022 at 7:44 PM, jpd80 said: Absolutely, that’s why Bronco was developed first before Ranger and Everest. Oh yeah, I forgot about Everest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted December 25, 2022 Share Posted December 25, 2022 4 hours ago, rmc523 said: Oh yeah, I forgot about Everest I reckon it would be a sweet ride with 2.7 or 3.0 EB. Not as big as CD6 Explorer but more like Gen 1 Explorer if that helps. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captainp4 Posted December 25, 2022 Share Posted December 25, 2022 13 hours ago, jpd80 said: I reckon it would be a sweet ride with 2.7 or 3.0 EB. Not as big as CD6 Explorer but more like Gen 1 Explorer if that helps. Wonder if there's any market for that here? Or too close to explorer and too truck like? 4runner competitor?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted December 25, 2022 Share Posted December 25, 2022 2 hours ago, Captainp4 said: Wonder if there's any market for that here? Or too close to explorer and too truck like? 4runner competitor?? There may be but Ford ruled out Everest for North America years ago, not even a consideration. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sullynd Posted December 25, 2022 Share Posted December 25, 2022 A fixed top Bronco makes much more sense for the US. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted December 26, 2022 Share Posted December 26, 2022 1 hour ago, sullynd said: A fixed top Bronco makes much more sense for the US. Yes absolutely. Given the runaway demand for Bronco, Ford is flat strapped keeping up enough production to cover that and Ranger. At the moment, trying to make more of existing products is a real struggle, so anything nice to have beyond that is never gonna happen territory Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silvrsvt Posted December 26, 2022 Author Share Posted December 26, 2022 3 hours ago, sullynd said: A fixed top Bronco makes much more sense for the US. But that makes it not a Bronco or Bronco Sport... Makes zero sense...as much sense as a Bronco style pickup Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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