jpd80 Posted March 21, 2023 Share Posted March 21, 2023 (edited) 13 hours ago, rmc523 said: I really think this subscription BS is terrible, and I hope Ford doesn't do it. Sadly they’re waiting with bated breath to introduce this, Doug whatever is pushing this big time, it’s an absurd idea of charging for something already built into the vehicle. This is Ford trying to grift more money from buyers All of this grew from the idea that telematics were so important to fleets that they would pay whatever and now retail buyers are about to start getting the same sort of shaft on desirable options that Ford wants to charge over and over for. Edited March 21, 2023 by jpd80 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twintornados Posted March 21, 2023 Share Posted March 21, 2023 On 3/15/2023 at 3:18 PM, silvrsvt said: .... Ford..... have a better idea .... Sorry for the chop up of your post, but this really stuck out for me...seems I may have heard this one before Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
passis Posted March 21, 2023 Share Posted March 21, 2023 (edited) So plain and simple Explorer is how they are calling it. I would have spared such a strong name for a GE2 model and was expecting this to be called Explorer Sport, starting another family as happened to Bronco and Mustag. I enjoyed its design a lot. Looking forward for more technical details and pricing. Edited March 21, 2023 by passis 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harley Lover Posted March 21, 2023 Share Posted March 21, 2023 Need to see more non-PR pics: 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzymoomoo Posted March 21, 2023 Share Posted March 21, 2023 19 hours ago, tbone said: I agree, and if they start doing it for options I care about, I’ll start taking a look at other vehicle brand options that don’t do that. Im already planning on my next new car being my last because of potential nonsense like that. Just locked up the flex long term yesterday because of it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harley Lover Posted March 21, 2023 Share Posted March 21, 2023 1 hour ago, passis said: So plain and simple Explorer is how they are calling it. In the AN article, they mention the second model will carry the Sport moniker: Quote The European Explorer will be built at Ford's plant in Cologne, Germany, replacing the Fiesta small car. A second version of the Explorer, expected to be named the Explorer Sport, will follow in the same plant. https://europe.autonews.com/cars-concepts/ford-explorer-ev-beats-key-rivals-key-segment 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silvrsvt Posted March 21, 2023 Author Share Posted March 21, 2023 https://www.cnbc.com/2023/03/21/ford-explorer-ev-europe.html https://insideevs.com/news/658251/ford-explorer-ev-is-a-vw-meb-based-suv-for-europe-priced-from-48500-usd/ Well the name choice is interesting.... So we have the Explorer (PHEV sold in EU) Explorer EV Then the upcoming CE2 Explorer EV built in Oakville in the next 18 months. I'm guessing the Chicago Explorer becomes the Explorer Classic or something when the BEV version comes out, to hopefully clear up the muddyness of this...jeeze Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silvrsvt Posted March 21, 2023 Author Share Posted March 21, 2023 29 minutes ago, Harley Lover said: In the AN article, they mention the second model will carry the Sport moniker: https://europe.autonews.com/cars-concepts/ford-explorer-ev-beats-key-rivals-key-segment The Capri name has been thrown around for this also. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzymoomoo Posted March 21, 2023 Share Posted March 21, 2023 (edited) 30 minutes ago, silvrsvt said: https://www.cnbc.com/2023/03/21/ford-explorer-ev-europe.html https://insideevs.com/news/658251/ford-explorer-ev-is-a-vw-meb-based-suv-for-europe-priced-from-48500-usd/ Well the name choice is interesting.... So we have the Explorer (PHEV sold in EU) Explorer EV Then the upcoming CE2 Explorer EV built in Oakville in the next 18 months. I'm guessing the Chicago Explorer becomes the Explorer Classic or something when the BEV version comes out, to hopefully clear up the muddyness of this...jeeze The vast majority of buyers in the US haven’t the slightest clue of what is or isn’t sold in Europe, nor do they care. I think it’s a non-issue. Edited March 21, 2023 by fuzzymoomoo 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silvrsvt Posted March 21, 2023 Author Share Posted March 21, 2023 30 minutes ago, fuzzymoomoo said: The vast majority of buyers in the US haven’t the slightest clue of what is or isn’t some in Europe, nor do they care I agree with that, but you'll still have two different products competing in the same marketplace come 2025. I don't ever recall Ford having three different products with the same name for sale worldwide. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harley Lover Posted March 21, 2023 Share Posted March 21, 2023 42 minutes ago, silvrsvt said: The Capri name has been thrown around for this also. I think the Sport name is official for the 'fastback' model. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harley Lover Posted March 21, 2023 Share Posted March 21, 2023 That front end doesn't warm me up. If this weren't a Ford and therefore I am predisposed to like it, the front end would bother me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silvrsvt Posted March 21, 2023 Author Share Posted March 21, 2023 37 minutes ago, Harley Lover said: That front end doesn't warm me up. If this weren't a Ford and therefore I am predisposed to like it, the front end would bother me. That is part of the problem with EVs-they don't need a grill for cooling like ICE products do. Its like looking at someone with their eyebrows shaved off. IMO it looks like a cross between a Mach E and a Bronco Sport styling wise. Doesn't look bad, but its a bit meh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.I. Posted March 21, 2023 Share Posted March 21, 2023 Why Explorer? There are not a single detail that suggest this car is a real Explorer. There are many names around for this , in fact, very atractive vehicle. By 2025, Ford will have many Explorers: the ICE original version, this European EV version, the upcoming Sport version of this car and the EV Explorer for NorthAmerica. Is not ridiculous? 4 different Explorers are too many Explorers. ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrisgb Posted March 21, 2023 Share Posted March 21, 2023 53 minutes ago, silvrsvt said: I agree with that, but you'll still have two different products competing in the same marketplace come 2025. I don't ever recall Ford having three different products with the same name for sale worldwide. Escort? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSchicago Posted March 21, 2023 Share Posted March 21, 2023 53 minutes ago, silvrsvt said: I agree with that, but you'll still have two different products competing in the same marketplace come 2025. I don't ever recall Ford having three different products with the same name for sale worldwide. Well Oldsmobile had Half their cars in the 80's Named Cutlass and different bodies too, not just trim levels. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oac98 Posted March 21, 2023 Share Posted March 21, 2023 1 hour ago, silvrsvt said: https://www.cnbc.com/2023/03/21/ford-explorer-ev-europe.html https://insideevs.com/news/658251/ford-explorer-ev-is-a-vw-meb-based-suv-for-europe-priced-from-48500-usd/ Well the name choice is interesting.... So we have the Explorer (PHEV sold in EU) Explorer EV Then the upcoming CE2 Explorer EV built in Oakville in the next 18 months. I'm guessing the Chicago Explorer becomes the Explorer Classic or something when the BEV version comes out, to hopefully clear up the muddyness of this...jeeze Lol maybe ford will change their plans AGAIN and call the new models to be built at Oakville Edge and Nautilus again lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSchicago Posted March 21, 2023 Share Posted March 21, 2023 I have to say that this is one of the nicest EV interiors I've seen. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silvrsvt Posted March 21, 2023 Author Share Posted March 21, 2023 29 minutes ago, Chrisgb said: Escort? Escort was only two-North America and Europe. IIRC the Lazer was the equivalent in Asia. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silvrsvt Posted March 21, 2023 Author Share Posted March 21, 2023 28 minutes ago, Oacjay98 said: Lol maybe ford will change their plans AGAIN and call the new models to be built at Oakville Edge and Nautilus again lol How about Explorer Edge? LOL The Edge name came from the Ranger of all things. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silvrsvt Posted March 21, 2023 Author Share Posted March 21, 2023 32 minutes ago, .I. said: Why Explorer? There are not a single detail that suggest this car is a real Explorer. The front end looks liked an EV'd 2016 Explorer IMO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oac98 Posted March 21, 2023 Share Posted March 21, 2023 31 minutes ago, silvrsvt said: How about Explorer Edge? LOL The Edge name came from the Ranger of all things. Lol I remember the Ranger Edge. Hahhahaha I like that one Explorer Edge, good one! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrisgb Posted March 21, 2023 Share Posted March 21, 2023 30 minutes ago, silvrsvt said: How about Explorer Edge? LOL The Edge name came from the Ranger of all things. And Ranger came from Edsel. come to think of it, so did Citation. About a year ago Ford copyrighted the name "Skyline" for use in North America. I wonder if Ford still has the rights to Fairlane and Galaxy? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSchicago Posted March 21, 2023 Share Posted March 21, 2023 29 minutes ago, Chrisgb said: And Ranger came from Edsel. come to think of it, so did Citation. About a year ago Ford copyrighted the name "Skyline" for use in North America. I wonder if Ford still has the rights to Fairlane and Galaxy? "Galaxie" 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silvrsvt Posted March 21, 2023 Author Share Posted March 21, 2023 31 minutes ago, Chrisgb said: And Ranger came from Edsel. come to think of it, so did Citation. About a year ago Ford copyrighted the name "Skyline" for use in North America. I wonder if Ford still has the rights to Fairlane and Galaxy? Nissan went to court over the Skyline name with Ford. https://www.thedrive.com/news/how-ford-and-nissan-battled-over-the-skyline-trademark-and-why-its-not-over-yet GM used the Citation name back in the 1980s for their X car-so no idea of the status of that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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