Dub347sbf Posted May 5, 2023 Share Posted May 5, 2023 (edited) There has been reports that FRAP started production of the S650 '24 Mustangs on May 1st, and then scheduling notes that say Job 1 was pushed until June. Some still have build dates showing for May. Does anyone know if FRAP is idle right now or if they are actually making Mustangs? Thanks Edited May 5, 2023 by Dub347sbf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzymoomoo Posted May 5, 2023 Share Posted May 5, 2023 38 minutes ago, Dub347sbf said: There has been reports that FRAP started production of the S650 '24 Mustangs on May 1st, and then scheduling notes that say Job 1 was pushed until June. Some still have build dates showing for May. Does anyone know if FRAP is idle right now or if they are actually making Mustangs? Thanks Ford Authority is not the authority they think they are…. 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted May 5, 2023 Share Posted May 5, 2023 2 hours ago, fuzzymoomoo said: Ford Authority is not the authority they think they are…. Many years ago I got into an argument with the editor at edmunds.com about why the Lincoln LS v8 was a 3.9L and the Jag was a 4.0L. They shortened the stroke on the LS. He said what difference would that make? So then I asked him if you have 2 glasses the same diameter but one is short and the other tall, which one holds more water? Still didn’t get it. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzymoomoo Posted May 6, 2023 Share Posted May 6, 2023 As I said, Ford Authority is not what they think they are: https://www.freep.com/story/money/cars/ford/2023/05/06/2024-ford-mustang-quality-review-uaw-layoffs-flat-rock/70188595007/ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ice-capades Posted May 6, 2023 Share Posted May 6, 2023 (edited) 2024 Ford Mustang quality review leads to plant down time prior to launch, UAW layoffs https://www.freep.com/story/money/cars/ford/2023/05/06/2024-ford-mustang-quality-review-uaw-layoffs-flat-rock/70188595007/ Ford Motor Co. has cut work shifts of UAW members at the Flat Rock Assembly Plant while in the process of launching the all-new classic 2024 Mustang, the Detroit Free Press has learned. The automaker cut production shifts the week of April 24, the plant was down the week of May 1, and the plant is scheduled to be down again the week of May 8, Ford spokeswoman Kelli Felker confirmed Friday. The Free Press was told by a launch team member in the factory that the build-out of the 2024 model was finished in early April and final quality review is focusing specifically on: Fitment issues with the body panels Electrical issues that involve engineering V-8 engine valve issues Edited May 6, 2023 by ice-capades Additional Content 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzymoomoo Posted May 6, 2023 Share Posted May 6, 2023 Is there an echo in here? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ice-capades Posted May 6, 2023 Share Posted May 6, 2023 1 hour ago, fuzzymoomoo said: Is there an echo in here? Sorry... missed your post! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dub347sbf Posted May 30, 2023 Author Share Posted May 30, 2023 Thanks for all of the info! I've seen a picture recently of Mustangs rolling down the line, crossing my fingers that is good news. Does anyone know if FRAP is back up and running? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSchicago Posted May 30, 2023 Share Posted May 30, 2023 On 5/5/2023 at 1:50 PM, akirby said: Many years ago I got into an argument with the editor at edmunds.com about why the Lincoln LS v8 was a 3.9L and the Jag was a 4.0L. They shortened the stroke on the LS. He said what difference would that make? So then I asked him if you have 2 glasses the same diameter but one is short and the other tall, which one holds more water? Still didn’t get it. Well Assuming everything else is the same, the shorter stroke engine would rev quicker, and to a higher RPM, and would have a higher HP compared to TQ. The Longer stroke engine would have more Torque at a lower RPM, and through the range, but rev slightly slower and to a slightly lower RPM peak. Shorter stroke is better for a car, longer stroke is better for a truck. Think of the Old 429/460's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted May 30, 2023 Share Posted May 30, 2023 6 minutes ago, LSchicago said: Well Assuming everything else is the same, the shorter stroke engine would rev quicker, and to a higher RPM, and would have a higher HP compared to TQ. The Longer stroke engine would have more Torque at a lower RPM, and through the range, but rev slightly slower and to a slightly lower RPM peak. Shorter stroke is better for a car, longer stroke is better for a truck. Think of the Old 429/460's. Correct but the question was strictly about displacement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSchicago Posted May 30, 2023 Share Posted May 30, 2023 1 minute ago, akirby said: Correct but the question was strictly about displacement. Sad that he couldn't understand that a shorter stroke yields less displacement. Common sense is no longer common. Just like how people still think the 2018 and up 5.0 is still a 302 because it's a 5.0. Bigger bore changed the size. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted May 30, 2023 Share Posted May 30, 2023 1 minute ago, LSchicago said: Sad that he couldn't understand that a shorter stroke yields less displacement. Common sense is no longer common. Just like how people still think the 2018 and up 5.0 is still a 302 because it's a 5.0. Bigger bore changed the size. Also the only reason they did it was marketing - Jaguar didn’t want Lincoln having the exact same engine as the S type. Also why the LS was never supercharged like the Jag. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSchicago Posted May 30, 2023 Share Posted May 30, 2023 An LS with a supercharged Coyote would be cool. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted May 30, 2023 Share Posted May 30, 2023 1 hour ago, LSchicago said: An LS with a supercharged Coyote would be cool. Would have had to be the Jag SC 4.2L. A larger V8 block wouldn’t fit from the bottom which is a requirement for assembly line, but it would fit from the top. In 2004 a trio of Lincoln engineers stuffed a rousch supercharged 4.6L into a LS for car and driver’s one lap of America, it ran great but had cooling problems and blew the motor. So they bought a $15k used crown Vic at a local dealer and swapped the engine. Cool story. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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