Dlcorbett Posted August 27 Share Posted August 27 https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a61984739/2025-ford-expedition-tremor-spied/ Almost uncovered both inside and out. Waiting to see how ford outfits the upper trims, but not loving the design inside or out quite yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmc523 Posted August 27 Share Posted August 27 WTF is with that rear blackout panel and those horrid disconnected taillights on the panel. Also, gotta love the egg on the face of those complaining that Expy and Navigator would have the exact same interior..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-dubz Posted August 27 Author Share Posted August 27 30 minutes ago, rmc523 said: WTF is with that rear blackout panel and those horrid disconnected taillights on the panel. Also, gotta love the egg on the face of those complaining that Expy and Navigator would have the exact same interior..... Surely the black is just some leftover camo that hasn’t been removed right? Thats horrible if not. I also really like the interior, except for that screen. It needs the navigator screen, just looks unfinished without it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danglin Posted August 27 Share Posted August 27 10 minutes ago, T-dubz said: Surely the black is just some leftover camo that hasn’t been removed right? Thats horrible if not. I also really like the interior, except for that screen. It needs the navigator screen, just looks unfinished without it. There is no way that Black on the Tailgate is for production. I would not be surprised to see a "Full width" screen on a Platinum. Tremor package is for a lower trim model anyway... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blazerdude20 Posted August 27 Share Posted August 27 1 hour ago, rmc523 said: WTF is with that rear blackout panel and those horrid disconnected taillights on the panel. Also, gotta love the egg on the face of those complaining that Expy and Navigator would have the exact same interior..... Pretty sure the Black panel is to throw people off... see the Hamburglar window sticker at the top. Google what that is if you aren't sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blazerdude20 Posted August 27 Share Posted August 27 Looking at the center console, it almost looks like the driver and passenger get their own arm rests rather than a shared lid. Wonder if they slide. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmc523 Posted August 28 Share Posted August 28 18 hours ago, T-dubz said: Surely the black is just some leftover camo that hasn’t been removed right? Thats horrible if not. I also really like the interior, except for that screen. It needs the navigator screen, just looks unfinished without it. 17 hours ago, danglin said: There is no way that Black on the Tailgate is for production. I would not be surprised to see a "Full width" screen on a Platinum. Tremor package is for a lower trim model anyway... Unless that look is part of the Tremor package? I hope not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmc523 Posted August 28 Share Posted August 28 More thoughts.....it's like someone else designed the liftgate without seeing the rest. The liftgate lights don't go with anything at all.....they could've at least put a graphic in the taillight itself to visually connect something the liftgate lights. Regarding the interior - BORG, FWIW, is reporting that this is the only screen available (even on high trims, though he also said they were at one point showing a full width screen)......IF that's true, I think they should've "flattened" the passenger side of the dash, so it doesn't look like you didn't get the full width option. Or they could've at least put some decorative embossed "Expedition" lettering in that void on the passenger side or something to dress it up a bit (maybe higher trims will?).... 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-dubz Posted August 28 Author Share Posted August 28 (edited) 1 hour ago, rmc523 said: Regarding the interior - BORG, FWIW, is reporting that this is the only screen available (even on high trims, though he also said they were at one point showing a full width screen)......IF that's true, I think they should've "flattened" the passenger side of the dash, so it doesn't look like you didn't get the full width option. Or they could've at least put some decorative embossed "Expedition" lettering in that void on the passenger side or something to dress it up a bit (maybe higher trims will?).... Or bring the screen forward where the IP normally is. There’s no need for it to be that far back if you aren’t having a full width screen. Another option would be to center the 24” screen, then add a 3rd tiny screen like the Mach E has right above the steering wheel. Edited August 28 by T-dubz 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ice-capades Posted August 28 Share Posted August 28 I'm not impressed with the 2025 Expedition interior photos at all. It looks like Ford decided to reduce expenses, etc. with that reduced width digital screen compared to the full width 48" screen on the Navigator. The center stack screen and controls only add to the impression of it looking like a hot mess. I'd expect better from Ford for what they sell and price as a premium full-size SUV. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joseodiaga4 Posted August 28 Share Posted August 28 1 hour ago, ice-capades said: I'm not impressed with the 2025 Expedition interior photos at all. It looks like Ford decided to reduce expenses, etc. yeah, Ford indeed reduce a lot of expenses in the Expy and Navi, too much IMO. I don't really get it, did they invest everything in the EVs? leaving behind everything except F series and Mustang? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deanh Posted August 28 Share Posted August 28 On 7/25/2024 at 11:55 AM, T-dubz said: Ha, you are def right about the wagoneer. That thing is hideous and oddly proportioned. I really like the profile of the Escalade ev. I wish the nav/expedition would look something like that. stunning....Caddy is on a bit of styling win right now... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dlcorbett Posted August 28 Share Posted August 28 I still think the upper trims will get a full width screen or dbl screen unless it was a last minute decision. Looking at the spy photos of the king ranch that dropped last week, the cowl is covered, but you can see the cowl is sitting on something that reaches to the opposite side of the dash. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joseodiaga4 Posted August 28 Share Posted August 28 1 hour ago, Deanh said: stunning....Caddy is on a bit of styling win right now... I am not sure, the side profile looks good, the front is a bit meh, and the back is hideous. The normal Escalade is the contrary, a good looking back but the front looks bad IMO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmc523 Posted August 28 Share Posted August 28 (edited) I zoomed in closer on the back end, and it does look like there may be something covering the upper portion of the black panel (the part the Ford emblem is on).....unless the dirt just formed a pattern that created that illusion. Those liftgate lights look like a 'factory' cut, though (not a dummy piece hiding it).....they're just inexplicable to me with how they don't visually tie in to anything at all...I despise unresolved lines design wise.. I'll try to reserve judgement until debut and hope that there is something different going on here, but I'm not hopeful. That much black makes it look like that part was damaged and you got a used part from another color (black) vehicle. Edited August 28 by rmc523 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dlcorbett Posted August 28 Share Posted August 28 8 minutes ago, rmc523 said: I zoomed in closer on the back end, and it does look like there may be something covering the upper portion of the black panel (the part the Ford emblem is on).....unless the dirt just formed a pattern that created that illusion. Those liftgate lights look like a 'factory' cut, though (not a dummy piece hiding it).....they're just inexplicable to me with how they don't visually tie in to anything at all...I despise unresolved lines design wise.. I'll try to reserve judgement until debut and hope that there is something different going on here, but I'm not hopeful. That much black makes it look like that part was damaged and you got a used part from another color (black) vehicle. What's crazy is the the rear could've actually looked so much better with what they have. Instead of raising the taillight to the liftglass, they should've topped it where the light on the tailgate is at, and did a c clamp light design similar to the ford Explorers new rear light design which actually looks rele good. They tried copying the rear of the denali and range rover too much amd came up with a design that's not cohesive at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmc523 Posted August 28 Share Posted August 28 If they were determined to have lights carry over to the liftgate with those taillights, an option could've been something more like this (which now that I look at it more, it reminds me of the current Soul)....that at least provides some visual continuity with the lines. Please forgive the crude rendering, as I have limited tools currently. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmc523 Posted August 28 Share Posted August 28 9 minutes ago, Dlcorbett said: What's crazy is the the rear could've actually looked so much better with what they have. Instead of raising the taillight to the liftglass, they should've topped it where the light on the tailgate is at, and did a c clamp light design similar to the ford Explorers new rear light design which actually looks rele good. They tried copying the rear of the denali and range rover too much amd came up with a design that's not cohesive at all. That look also would've mimicked the light signature of the headlights. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ANTAUS Posted August 28 Share Posted August 28 Personally, speaking and I know taste is subjective...just the 2 red light strips look out of place, like an afterthought as do the 2 slanted ones below which do not even flow well with the brake lights on the side. Just ugly overall. As is the urinal shape center bottom stack motif which seems to be proliferating through Ford suv/truck products. Meanwhile, GMC released their new Denali which looks handsome and classy. It bewilders me how the same company can design beautiful Lincoln interiors, can design mediocrely Ford interiors (sans the F150). And this has been a pattern last few years. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbone Posted August 28 Share Posted August 28 5 hours ago, ice-capades said: I'm not impressed with the 2025 Expedition interior photos at all. It looks like Ford decided to reduce expenses, etc. with that reduced width digital screen compared to the full width 48" screen on the Navigator. The center stack screen and controls only add to the impression of it looking like a hot mess. I'd expect better from Ford for what they sell and price as a premium full-size SUV. I couldn’t have said it better myself. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-dubz Posted August 28 Author Share Posted August 28 (edited) 2 hours ago, rmc523 said: I zoomed in closer on the back end, and it does look like there may be something covering the upper portion of the black panel (the part the Ford emblem is on).....unless the dirt just formed a pattern that created that illusion. Those liftgate lights look like a 'factory' cut, though (not a dummy piece hiding it).....they're just inexplicable to me with how they don't visually tie in to anything at all...I despise unresolved lines design wise.. I'll try to reserve judgement until debut and hope that there is something different going on here, but I'm not hopeful. That much black makes it look like that part was damaged and you got a used part from another color (black) vehicle. I’m actually back to thinking this isn’t camo. You can clearly see the expedition lettering is outlined in yellow, exactly what you’d expect on the tremor. And you can see the ford badging. If this was a giant black sticker covering the rear, I doubt they would have put the lettering or the logo on top of that. My guess is that this is in fact the final version, or that particular part is an unpainted prototype of some sort. i have no explanation for the lights. At first I thought it might be something like on the explorer, but it looks nothing like that. Edited August 28 by T-dubz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoonerLS Posted August 28 Share Posted August 28 44 minutes ago, T-dubz said: I’m actually back to thinking this isn’t camo. You can clearly see the expedition lettering is outlined in yellow, exactly what you’d expect on the tremor. And you can see the ford badging. If this was a giant black sticker covering the rear, I doubt they would have put the lettering or the logo on top of that. My guess is that this is in fact the final version, or that particular part is an unpainted prototype of some sort. Maybe the Expedition is getting the split hatch like the Navigator, and that’s just the unpainted upper half or from a different color vehicle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoonerLS Posted August 28 Share Posted August 28 5 hours ago, Deanh said: stunning....Caddy is on a bit of styling win right now... Meh. Looks like a poorly-executed knock-off of an Explorer or Land Rover. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew L Posted August 28 Share Posted August 28 On 8/27/2024 at 2:50 PM, rmc523 said: Also, gotta love the egg on the face of those complaining that Expy and Navigator would have the exact same interior..... I don't think anyone said it would have the same exact interior. My complaint was it would have the same coast to coast screen which would make the Navigator feel less special. Especially since the Escalade has a coast to coast screen but the lower GM models don't. Let's face it typically in the past if Lincoln were to debut a new feature almost immediately after a Ford would get it too which would ruin the "exclusivity" the Lincoln would have. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted August 29 Share Posted August 29 I don’t think that’s the production version at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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