joseodiaga4 Posted September 2 Share Posted September 2 Lincoln Confirms Plans For Two New Models The two new models were confirmed at a Lincoln dealer conference earlier this year. The carmaker hasn’t said if the models will be all-new or updated versions of existing vehicles. Updates have recently been launched for the Navigator and Aviator. Lincoln is developing two new models for the U.S. market as it continues to build momentum and boost its sales across the country. This comes despite the brand not yet having an EV in its range. https://www.carscoops.com/2024/09/lincoln-plans-two-new-models-as-u-s-sales-rebound/ 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmc523 Posted September 3 Share Posted September 3 Well this shows a couple things: 1) Borg’s info showing basically nothing going forward is incorrect (shocking) 2) they’re not dead yet lol it doesnt say if they’re new or updated though. So one could just be a new Aviator (alongside Explorer) and Corsair in a few years. Hopefully they start adding models at some point. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joseodiaga4 Posted September 3 Author Share Posted September 3 (edited) Very vague report but I do wonder what are those the new models. I just hope that this is not just a Corsair replacement and new Aviator. would like to see new models maybe a coupe version of the Nautilus Edited September 3 by joseodiaga4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joseodiaga4 Posted September 3 Author Share Posted September 3 1 minute ago, rmc523 said: Well this shows a couple things: 1) Borg’s info showing basically nothing going forward is incorrect (shocking) 2) they’re not dead yet lol it doesnt say if they’re new or updated though. So one could just be a new Aviator (alongside Explorer) and Corsair in a few years. Hopefully they start adding models at some point. Well he said that the only info he has is a new Aviator. The Corsair replacement could be coming from China. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harley Lover Posted September 3 Share Posted September 3 (edited) The link in the OP is cribbing from an Automotive News report about future product plans from a couple of weeks ago. AN reported: Quote Dealers at an August [Lincoln] meeting were told that two new models would be coming to its U.S. lineup in the coming years, according to two attendees, although it's unclear if they would be new nameplates or derivates of vehicles currently in the lineup. Aside from that assertion, the article does not contain any concrete information. It does contain the following speculation about Corsair: Quote Corsair: Following a 2023 freshening, North American production of the small crossover at Ford's Louisville Assembly Plant is expected to end in 2025. It's unlikely that Lincoln would abandon the high-volume compact crossover segment, however. While plans are not yet firm, the brand could duplicate what it did with the Nautilus and import a vehicle made in China, or add a Lincoln variant on the low-cost, small EV platform Ford is developing. FWIW. That's quite a bit of smoke and mirrors to throw out a headline 'Lincoln confirms plans for 2 New Models'. https://www.autonews.com/future-product/lincoln-promises-2-new-models-sales-rebound Edited September 3 by Harley Lover 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AM222 Posted September 3 Share Posted September 3 (edited) I wonder why Ford is still not taking Lincoln global. Much younger premium brands like "Genesis" are expanding globally, perhaps Ford should do the same. If Lincoln became a global luxury brand, maybe this would stop Ford from making Ford-branded vehicles more expensive/premium. Edited September 3 by AM222 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ANTAUS Posted September 3 Share Posted September 3 Only other vehicle still left in Lincoln China is the Zephyr. They can always "test" the market and just import that model as needed. Considering how well the Nautilus is selling the "it's made in China" factor doesn't seem to bother many. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeluxeStang Posted September 3 Share Posted September 3 (edited) It's probably just gonna be a few new crossovers. But imagine how cool it would be if Lincoln gave us a mustang based coupe.The sales volumes wouldn't be great, but a premium coupe with already developed mustang underpinnings would have substantial profit margins in theory, and could be built at flat rock. It would also elevate Lincoln's status and corporate image. A modern take on the concept below would be perfection imo. Edited September 3 by DeluxeStang 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mackinaw Posted September 3 Share Posted September 3 27 minutes ago, DeluxeStang said: It's probably just gonna be a few new crossovers. But imagine how cool it would be if Lincoln gave us a mustang based coupe.The sales volumes wouldn't be great, but a premium coupe with already developed mustang underpinnings would have substantial profit margins in theory, and could be built at flat rock. It would also elevate Lincoln's status and corporate image. A modern take on the concept below would be perfection imo. ... That would be cool, though I suspect it will be a warmed-over CUV. But the latest UAW contract mentions a new product to be built at Flat Rock. That could be the 4-door Mustang, or ???????? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeluxeStang Posted September 3 Share Posted September 3 3 hours ago, mackinaw said: That would be cool, though I suspect it will be a warmed-over CUV. But the latest UAW contract mentions a new product to be built at Flat Rock. That could be the 4-door Mustang, or ???????? It's been implied whatever that mystery product was, it wasn't a mustang sedan/raptor. But the rumors surrounding it seem to have gone cold. So whatever it was, it's probably been killed off. It could have been anything really as long as it was low enough to be built at flat rock. Anything from a c2 fusion, to a new Lincoln sedan, a Thunderbird, a mid engine mustang, who knows. Whatever it was, it sounded like it had promise, but unless we hear something new on it, it's dead in the water. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeluxeStang Posted September 3 Share Posted September 3 I'm not opposed to more lincoln SUVs, but they have everything pretty well covered, everything from Corsair, to Navigator, and it's all pretty competitive. If they're invest substantially in Lincoln moving forward, it just seems logical to introduce products for segments you aren't tapping into, within reason of course, a Lincoln truck or something would be a terrible idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ares Posted September 3 Share Posted September 3 (edited) It won’t happen, but a Lincoln version of the Bronco would be killer. Blend the rugged aesthetic with luxury, a polished interior with maximum sound deadening. Offer a moonroof. (Lincoln would definitely have a fixed top and doors). Add adaptive air suspension. Tuned turbocharged V6 standard, and a hybrid option. Price it competitively. They could create a new market, like they did with the Navigator in the 90s. And I think it would sell. Especially to young professionals. A more accessible G-Wagon. They could call it the Mountaineer Edited September 3 by Ares 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeluxeStang Posted September 3 Share Posted September 3 4 minutes ago, Ares said: It won’t happen, but a Lincoln version of the Bronco would be killer. Blend the rugged aesthetic with luxury, a polished interior with maximum sound deadening. Offer a moonroof. (Lincoln would definitely have a fixed top and doors). Add adaptive air suspension. Tuned turbocharged V6 standard, and a hybrid option. Price it competitively. They could create a new market, like they did with the Navigator in the 90s. And I think it would sell. Especially to young professionals. A more accessible G-Wagon. Damn it. When you first presented the idea, I was like "I don't see it aligning well with Lincoln's image. But the more you talked about it, the more you sold me on it. Solid pitch, I'm in. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blazerdude20 Posted September 3 Share Posted September 3 14 minutes ago, DeluxeStang said: Damn it. When you first presented the idea, I was like "I don't see it aligning well with Lincoln's image. But the more you talked about it, the more you sold me on it. Solid pitch, I'm in. Agreed. Though I think they’d be aiming more at Lexus GX rather than the G Wagon crowd. The new GX and 4Runner share a lot under pinning so it’s possible it could work. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew L Posted September 4 Share Posted September 4 I suggested in another thread a Lincoln based on the Bronco with a fixed roof. I think they could pull it off and go after the G Class and Defender. The only thing hurting them is those 2 have a long history where Lincoln has 0 history there. But have to start somewhere. What if they made a model based on the Everest? It may overlap with Aviator but could be more off road focused. Could they make something like a raised Zephyr Wagon for the US market to go after something like the Audi Allroad and focus on active people who like biking and kayaking? A 2 door Corsair might be intriguing but I also like the idea of the Puma and making it Sporty. A small Sporty Puma with a Lincoln level interior might be an intriguing option. There are options out there for Lincoln to expand. Of course I'd love if the Zephyr came here to the US. Then I have my out of the world idea of a SUV based on the Super Duty Chassis called a Dominator. It would probably not sell well but just imagine a fully decked out interior with no compromises lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ausrutherford Posted September 5 Share Posted September 5 On 9/3/2024 at 4:11 PM, DeluxeStang said: I'm not opposed to more lincoln SUVs, but they have everything pretty well covered, everything from Corsair, to Navigator, and it's all pretty competitive. If they're invest substantially in Lincoln moving forward, it just seems logical to introduce products for segments you aren't tapping into, within reason of course, a Lincoln truck or something would be a terrible idea. They need a smaller-than-Corsair CUV. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted September 5 Share Posted September 5 1 hour ago, ausrutherford said: They need a smaller-than-Corsair CUV. Nope. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robertlane Posted September 5 Share Posted September 5 1 hour ago, ausrutherford said: They need a smaller-than-Corsair CUV. Disagree - how small in vehicle size can Lincoln go? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-dubz Posted September 5 Share Posted September 5 Here are some quick AI generated Lincoln broncos I did for a similar post on 6g. I’d love to see it, but don’t think it would happen. 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeluxeStang Posted September 5 Share Posted September 5 1 hour ago, akirby said: Nope. Wouldn't align with the premium image. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ausrutherford Posted September 5 Share Posted September 5 52 minutes ago, robertlane said: Disagree - how small in vehicle size can Lincoln go? See MB GLA/B, Lexus UX, BMW X1/X2, etc. Using the Bronco Sport's shorter C2 wheelbase as the starting point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeluxeStang Posted September 5 Share Posted September 5 28 minutes ago, T-dubz said: Here are some quick AI generated Lincoln broncos I did for a similar post on 6g. I’d love to see it, but don’t think it would happen. Not bad, it would definitely need its own boxy, yet bespoke design. I saw a bronco with a Lincoln front end photoshopped on and wasn't a fan. But something close to the new defender in terms of shape would be really compelling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTL2017 Posted September 5 Share Posted September 5 10 hours ago, ausrutherford said: See MB GLA/B, Lexus UX, BMW X1/X2, etc. Using the Bronco Sport's shorter C2 wheelbase as the starting point. The only way I can see a smaller Lincoln is if it is electric. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrisgb Posted September 5 Share Posted September 5 11 hours ago, DeluxeStang said: Wouldn't align with the premium image. I partially agree with you. Lincoln is going with "The Power of Luxury" as their leitmotif currently across the lineup. But a Bronco-based Lincoln would align well alongside Land Rover Discovery & Range Rover, Lexus GX, M-B G Class. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
morgan20 Posted September 5 Share Posted September 5 1 hour ago, JTL2017 said: The only way I can see a smaller Lincoln is if it is electric. Yea, exactly. Without something like that, Lincoln could fall behind Cadillac, Porsche, Mercedes-Benz, Volvo, and others that already have a smaller EV crossover or SUV in their lineups Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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