Rick73 Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 7 hours ago, akirby said: The fact that Ford had both turbo I4s and 3.5/3.7L NA v6s available side by side for several years in multiple vehicles (and 3.3 NA vs 2.7 turbo in F150) and they chose to drop the NA v6s says all you need to know. Agree all I need to know about Ford. I already knew everything I actually needed to know much before that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmc523 Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 22 hours ago, Sherminator98 said: I think the biggest issue with a Hybrid setup for the Mustang is how does it fit as a performance vehicle. Using the Ranger PHEV as the Hybrid setup for the Mustang, you have 275hp with 509 ft lb of Torque with the R10 transmission The Ecoboost Mustang is rated at 310 HP/315 ft lbs and I'm not sure if a huge increase in torque would be a good selling point for a Mustang. You have the rumors of FWD/AWD setup, so using the Nautilus as base line-the two motors on that add 60HP to the base Ecoboost. So if you use the Nautilus style Hybrid motors on the Mustang, you'd get around 400HP-but would the additional weight off set any performance gains? Just using these two examples, I don't see a reason for Ford to use a hybrid setup in the coupe Mustang unless they are forced too. A hybrid setup would be a far better setup for a Sedan or off road influenced Mustang, if they ever come about. I could see Ford eventually making a hybrid the standard powertrain (removing ICE only I-4 ecoboost altogether) down the road as a bridge to an EV model, getting people used to the idea of an electric Mustang coupe/vert, and maybe having a V8 hybrid option. 17 hours ago, jpd80 said: In spite of everything GM did, the Camaro failed to get sufficient sales, some put that down to the styling looking too much like the previous version. That could be a factor or, people may have worked out that the Camaro is not great to live with for day to day use compared to a utility… or the V8 buyers may have decided to progress to Corvette…….i really don’t know either way but maybe the answer is general wastage of buyers for whatever the reason is also affecting Mustang….. In summary, maybe whatever people have suggest ed that Ford do to Mustang may not affect the outcome all that much…… I think Camaro stuck with the bathtub design too long, and as mentioned, the design for the last gen was too similar to the previous model. The 911 approach to design (not changing much with each redesign) doesn't work on other vehicles. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bzcat Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 Camaro's demise has many dimensions (dropping demand, CAFE, GM pulling out of Australia etc.) but ultimately, it is just not as iconic to Chevy as Mustang it is to Ford. They've got the Corvette over there to carry the torch. Mustang and Corvette are not competitors in the market place but they occupy similar mind space in the corporate office. Camaro is more like Thunderbird at Ford... it's a nice to have product but if you had to choose one, the answer is always bet on Mustang. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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