Sherminator98 Posted March 20, 2025 Share Posted March 20, 2025 https://electrek.co/2025/03/20/tesla-confirms-it-cant-sell-the-cybertruck-even-with-tax-credit-and-discounts/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted March 20, 2025 Share Posted March 20, 2025 Excuse me while I put on my shocked face. 😱😱😱 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick73 Posted March 21, 2025 Share Posted March 21, 2025 Yeah, what a shocker? Between polarizing appearance (being kind), quality issues, and Tesla brand equity declining (if not in the toilet already for many potential buyers), it should all be expected. And with used CT dropping in price, demand for new ones is even lower. There’s more facing electric pickups in general but not worth repeating. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twintornados Posted March 21, 2025 Share Posted March 21, 2025 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeluxeStang Posted March 22, 2025 Share Posted March 22, 2025 Dang, you're telling me the cybertruck isn't gonna put Ford out of business? Guess all those Tesla fans were wrong 😂. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbone Posted March 22, 2025 Share Posted March 22, 2025 4 hours ago, DeluxeStang said: Dang, you're telling me the cybertruck isn't gonna put Ford out of business? Guess all those Tesla fans were wrong 😂. Had they built it to look like the Nikola, the story may have been a little bit different, at least with respect to Etrucks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sullynd Posted March 22, 2025 Share Posted March 22, 2025 11 minutes ago, tbone said: Had they built it to look like the Nikola, the story may have been a little bit different, at least with respect to Etrucks. They should have found a way to buy Rivian. It would have complimented their cars and CUVs quite well, and would be a better way to enter the commercial market than its own brand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted March 22, 2025 Share Posted March 22, 2025 7 hours ago, DeluxeStang said: Dang, you're telling me the cybertruck isn't gonna put Ford out of business? Guess all those Tesla fans were Rperez was wrong 😂. FTFY Although to be fair he was only wrong about EVs, Tesla and Autonomous vehicles. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeluxeStang Posted March 23, 2025 Share Posted March 23, 2025 1 hour ago, akirby said: FTFY Although to be fair he was only wrong about EVs, Tesla and Autonomous vehicles. Honestly, with how upside down allegiances have flipped these last few months, I wonder if he's still a Tesla fan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherminator98 Posted March 24, 2025 Author Share Posted March 24, 2025 On 3/22/2025 at 9:06 PM, DeluxeStang said: Honestly, with how upside down allegiances have flipped these last few months, I wonder if he's still a Tesla fan. Eh the people doing this to Tesla aren’t fans of the company , it’s just some people running very broad circles with one another. Then add in a pinch of sensationalism that the news adds and we are we are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick73 Posted March 25, 2025 Share Posted March 25, 2025 On 3/22/2025 at 8:06 PM, DeluxeStang said: Honestly, with how upside down allegiances have flipped these last few months, I wonder if he's still a Tesla fan. While I don’t generally like psychobabble, I do believe there is some truth to below quote on why many people became Tesla rabid fans that go beyond reason or common sense, though not implying every Tesla buyer falls in this category. IMO rperez817 seemed motivated mostly by saving the planet from greenhouse gases and saw Tesla as part of the solution, basically a physiological need for human survival, and therefore may have overlooked Elon’s politics for perceived greater good. On the other hand most environmentalists lean left, so that causes conflict for them regardless. Point is that very few are truly happy with Tesla even though they manufacture some of the best EVs for the cost; primarily Models Y and 3. A major problem Tesla is facing is that their buyers are not environmental activists to the same extent as rperez817, and probably purchased more for “virtue-signaling than functionality”, and as of today, there is very little perceived “virtue” in buying a Tesla. No one actually needs a Tesla at all when there are so many other vehicles, so if ownership is mostly about making a statement, what does it actually say? Tesla has major image problems they need to fix quickly. “Tesla’s demographic shift brings to mind Maslow’s hierarchy of needs—the theory that people must satisfy their most fundamental physiological and safety needs, like shelter and food, before they move up the hierarchy which culminates at self-actualization—the realization of one’s full potential. Automobile manufacturers have long marketed cars as an answer to both lower-level needs and that highest one—self-actualization. A Tesla is perfectly fine for answering those lower-level needs. It’s a way to get work, to ferry the kids to soccer, to take that roadtrip. But this current phenomenon of Tesla regret proves that owning a Tesla is more about virtue-signaling than functionality.” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motorpsychology Posted March 25, 2025 Share Posted March 25, 2025 I agree with the concept of virtue signaling, but along with that there is a futurist ideology that compels some people to claw their way beyond convention. Holographic projectors, sat phones, SpaceX rides, Level 5 autonomous vehicles. My perception is that BEVs are at a tipping point where there will be relatively quick widespread adoption globally, as is happening in the EU, especially Norway.. The virtue signalers will move on to FCEVs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick73 Posted March 25, 2025 Share Posted March 25, 2025 6 hours ago, Chrisgb said: My perception is that BEVs are at a tipping point where there will be relatively quick widespread adoption globally, as is happening in the EU, especially Norway.. Yes, Norway does have very high adoption rate, but I don’t know to what degree their relative wealth affected that adoption rate. We know that wealthy and or high-income individuals adopt EVs at higher rates, so hard to say. Norway also has very high renewable electricity generation, especially hydro, so EVs make a lot of sense from environmental standpoint. Ironically much of their country’s wealth is due to oil and gas. ⛽️ Also interesting that wealth distribution is different than ours, so I expect US Americans will not adopt EVs to the same extent unless much more affordable EVs become available. Even then it’s going to take a long time IMO to match Norway’s success. Poor and low-income buyers have more to worry about than buying EVs in my opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motorpsychology Posted March 26, 2025 Share Posted March 26, 2025 13 minutes ago, Rick73 said: Yes, Norway does have very high adoption rate, but I don’t know to what degree their relative wealth affected that adoption rate. We know that wealthy and or high-income individuals adopt EVs at higher rates, so hard to say. Norway also has very high renewable electricity generation, especially hydro, so EVs make a lot of sense from environmental standpoint. Ironically much of their country’s wealth is due to oil and gas. ⛽️ Also interesting that wealth distribution is different than ours, so I expect US Americans will not adopt EVs to the same extent unless much more affordable EVs become available. Even then it’s going to take a long time IMO to match Norway’s success. Poor and low-income buyers have more to worry about than buying EVs in my opinion. Norway is definitely a 1st world country, but the adoption rate for BEVs is helped greatly with lower registration fees, free or lower cost parking and several other perks. As a national agenda, the citizens are all rowing in the same direction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mackinaw Posted March 26, 2025 Share Posted March 26, 2025 7 hours ago, Chrisgb said: .....My perception is that BEVs are at a tipping point where there will be relatively quick widespread adoption globally, as is happening in the EU, especially Norway..... I recall reading the same thing five years ago. Still hasn't happened. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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