fuzzymoomoo Posted May 29 Share Posted May 29 1 hour ago, rmc523 said: Yeah, it looked like possibly the same white as the Mustang. Gotta love how a unique product like Bronco that could support a variety of fun colors is offered in 50 shades of gray + blue, green, red. I see so many factory painted purple, pink, orange and bright green Jeeps. I don’t understand why Ford refuses to do the same thing with Bronco. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeluxeStang Posted May 29 Share Posted May 29 59 minutes ago, fuzzymoomoo said: I see so many factory painted purple, pink, orange and bright green Jeeps. I don’t understand why Ford refuses to do the same thing with Bronco. I couldn't agree more. That being said, if the '25/26 color palette for the s650 is any indication, it seems like Ford is trying to bring back fun colors. I genuinely hope these colors extend to bronco and other products. So many of us consumer are tired of the colorless hell scape. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AM222 Posted May 30 Share Posted May 30 (edited) On 5/5/2025 at 7:47 AM, DeluxeStang said: As the V8 mustang has continued to get larger, and more expensive, I've been saying how the existence of a smaller, more affordable mustang was starting to make more and more sense. Heck, a well optioned Ecoboost is running into the 40s and low 50s these days. There's room for something even more affordable. The Mustang is getting much heavier too even if it hasn't really grown much in the past 2 decades. I'd prefer if Ford made the Mustang smaller and lighter instead of adding another coupe (but if they will, I'd choose a Euro Capri coupe revival over the Probe). Imagine if Ford applied the Mazda MX-5 formula to the Mustang. 2025 Mazda MX-5 2.0 6-speed manual Dimensions: 154.1in x 68.3in x 48.6in Curb weight: 2366lbs 1994 Mazda MX-5 (Miata) 1.8 5-speed manual Dimensions: 155.4in x 65.9in x 48.2in Curb weight: 2293lbs (by 1994 it had gained dual airbags) 2025 Ford Mustang GT 6-speed manual Dimensions: 189.4in x 75.4in x 55in Curb weight: 3827lbs 1994 Ford Mustang GT 5-speed manual (SN95) Dimensions: 181.5in x 71.8in x 53.1in Curb weight: 3276lbs *Note the SN95 was close in size to the original Mustang, it just had a much shorter wheelbase than the first gen model. Edited May 30 by AM222 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fabiano Pires Castagna Posted May 30 Author Share Posted May 30 Have you ever thought about what would happen if Ford launched new vehicles, or restylings, or versions, at the same rate that announces recalls? Lately, we have read (much) more news about recalls than anything actually new in the short, medium and long term. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeluxeStang Posted May 30 Share Posted May 30 2 hours ago, AM222 said: The Mustang is getting much heavier too even if it hasn't really grown much in the past 2 decades. I'd prefer if Ford made the Mustang smaller and lighter instead of adding another coupe (but if they will, I'd choose a Euro Capri coupe revival over the Probe). Imagine if Ford applied the Mazda MX-5 formula to the Mustang. 2025 Mazda MX-5 2.0 6-speed manual Dimensions: 154.1in x 68.3in x 48.6in Curb weight: 2366lbs 1994 Mazda MX-5 (Miata) 1.8 5-speed manual Dimensions: 155.4in x 65.9in x 48.2in Curb weight: 2293lbs (by 1994 it had gained dual airbags) 2025 Ford Mustang GT 6-speed manual Dimensions: 189.4in x 75.4in x 55in Curb weight: 3827lbs 1994 Ford Mustang GT 5-speed manual (SN95) Dimensions: 181.5in x 71.8in x 53.1in Curb weight: 3276lbs *Note the SN95 was close in size to the original Mustang, it just had a much shorter wheelbase than the first gen model. The issue is if Ford makes the mustang smaller, smaller cars are subjected to more intense emissions requirements, which a v8 would almost certainly not be able to meet. So this would mean the end of a V8 mustang. Farley mentioned how the mustang needs to lose weight, I could see them losing a few hundred lbs by ditching a lot of the steel in the body in favor of aluminum. But that brings up the challenge of adding more cost to the manufacturing process of the mustang. The reason I've suggested a smaller EV mustang is because there's really nothing on the market in the fun, affordable EV market, especially for coupes. So Ford would have the market basically to itself. Like Slate, they could offer a ton of accessories to not only increase the aspirational nature of the product, but serve as profit drivers as well. Not to mention an EV isn't gonna have to worry about emissions standards, and using the CE1 platform that would be shared with much higher volume products, so it would be, in theory, pretty cost efficient to develop. Not to mention it would just be cool, and give Ford a way to compete that stood out, and gave it's EVs additional wow factor and desirability. As the mustang brand expands, I think keeping the V8 manual full size mustang around as a higher performance, more high end model is a solid idea. But ford should also explore an addition to the stable of a mustang that returns to the humble roots of the mustang. Something that's not super car, maybe 200-250 HP, but that looks great, is still fun to drive, and anyone who wants one can afford one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AM222 Posted May 30 Share Posted May 30 (edited) 1 hour ago, DeluxeStang said: As the mustang brand expands, I think keeping the V8 manual full size mustang around as a higher performance, more high end model is a solid idea. But ford should also explore an addition to the stable of a mustang that returns to the humble roots of the mustang. Something that's not super car, maybe 200-250 HP, but that looks great, is still fun to drive, and anyone who wants one can afford one. Will anyone buy a 200hp Mustang? Maybe Ford should just make a smaller lower-priced coupe. Kind of like how BMW has a 2-series coupe below the 4-series coupe. Edited May 30 by AM222 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeluxeStang Posted May 30 Share Posted May 30 16 minutes ago, AM222 said: Will anyone buy a 200hp Mustang? Maybe Ford should just make a smaller lower-priced coupe. Kind of like how BMW has a 2-series coupe below the 4-series coupe. I believe they would if the price was right. Even a good portion of the Ecoboost mustangs you see are optional into the high 30s or low 40s. Even the Ecoboost is gradually becoming less affordable for young enthusiasts. So that's opening up some room for something to slot beneath it. We know CE1 is super optimized for cost, to be profitable on vehicles starting in the mid to high 20s. Do I believe people would accept a 200 hp electric mustang that was 40k? Hell no. Will they accept one that has a starting price of 25-27k? Hell yes. I've even thought about how just like the slate truck can be converted into an SUV quickly and easily, Ford could sell a kit where the sloping rear glass and decklid can be pulled off and be replaced with a hatchback cap or something. Giving you a lot more practicality than a conventional coupe, thereby addressing one of the biggest drawbacks most sports cars have. You could sell lowering kits, bigger wheels, aftermarket lights, spoilers, splitters, diffusers, etc, all to boost profitability, and public perception of your EVs. Think about it, young people like EVs, but all of their dream cars are Tesla's because that's one of the only ev brands in America offering evs beyond utilities and trucks. The model 3 for instance really appeals to those young people. Now what if we could give them an affordable EV, and make it a mustang? That's a product worth getting excited over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherminator98 Posted May 30 Share Posted May 30 I think you guys are getting a bit into the weeds-given how expensive things are in general, a cheap coupe would be lucky to sell 25K units a year. Its impractical for the vast majority of use cases for buyers. A decent majority of younger people are going to want something that is "practical" vs "cool" to drive. Just look at what has happened over the past 20 years or so with "youth" marketed vehicles. They get bought mostly by middle age people who want to feel cool again and have the income to buy them. Then add in that EVs already have impressive performance due to the use of high torque electric motors, maybe a better course of action is coming out with something that is more performance orientated on the lower cost CE1 platform that doesn't require a wholely new tophat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AM222 Posted May 30 Share Posted May 30 (edited) 4 hours ago, DeluxeStang said: We know CE1 is super optimized for cost, to be profitable on vehicles starting in the mid to high 20s. Do I believe people would accept a 200 hp electric mustang that was 40k? Hell no. Will they accept one that has a starting price of 25-27k? Hell yes. More people would accept any Mustang if its price started under $30K. I think this would apply to ICE, BEV, or anything in between. I just realized that when you add Delivery Charges to the base Maverick and base Escape, they both cost over $30K. Ford no longer has passenger vehicles priced under $30K in the US, not unless you have some kind of discount. Totally different era 4 years ago when you could get a $20K base Maverick. Edited May 30 by AM222 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmc523 Posted May 30 Share Posted May 30 21 hours ago, fuzzymoomoo said: I see so many factory painted purple, pink, orange and bright green Jeeps. I don’t understand why Ford refuses to do the same thing with Bronco. Agreed - Mustang and Bronco should both get fun color options alongside the standard ones.......we don't need 50 shades of gray. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzymoomoo Posted May 30 Share Posted May 30 2 hours ago, rmc523 said: Agreed - Mustang and Bronco should both get fun color options alongside the standard ones.......we don't need 50 shades of gray. Hot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbone Posted May 31 Share Posted May 31 On 5/29/2025 at 4:45 PM, fuzzymoomoo said: I see so many factory painted purple, pink, orange and bright green Jeeps. I don’t understand why Ford refuses to do the same thing with Bronco. Although I typically buy black vehicles, I have to say Ford’s color choices are crap. It’s about as basic as you can get. Adding new and interesting colors could enhance sales. When someone wasn’t planning to buy something but an interesting color pops up, they might consider it. They also need some more non-metallic options. There are a lot of people that like flat colors. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fabiano Pires Castagna Posted June 6 Author Share Posted June 6 https://fordauthority.com/2025/06/ford-vice-chair-john-lawler-says-next-gen-evs-are-two-years-away/ 😴 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoonerLS Posted June 7 Share Posted June 7 On 5/3/2025 at 4:45 PM, Captainp4 said: Busy starting programs to cancel them right before they launch At least that’s more cost-effective than their traditional “launch and abandon” strategy. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mustang84isu Posted June 8 Share Posted June 8 On 5/4/2025 at 6:47 PM, DeluxeStang said: As the V8 mustang has continued to get larger, and more expensive, I've been saying how the existence of a smaller, more affordable mustang was starting to make more and more sense. Heck, a well optioned Ecoboost is running into the 40s and low 50s these days. There's room for something even more affordable. CE1 could make it possible to truly reintroduce the original mustang as it was in 1965. Just as the falcon platform was a small, inexpensive chassis, so is CE1. Ford could introduce something that looked great, with fun enough power and driving dynamics, and a ton of accessories to increase profits. Good looking, fun to drive, obtainable for anyone who wants one, the original mustang formula for the EV age. I could see the current Mustang simply become a "Mustang GT" line, with a V8 only - and then the affordable EV Mustang would be on the CE1 platform. And IMO, the body of each vehicle should be differentiated from one another. I would love to see Ford use something like fox body heritage cues for the affordable Mustang, sort of like how Hyundai Ioniq 5 has retro cues but still is a modern package. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeluxeStang Posted June 8 Share Posted June 8 13 hours ago, mustang84isu said: I could see the current Mustang simply become a "Mustang GT" line, with a V8 only - and then the affordable EV Mustang would be on the CE1 platform. And IMO, the body of each vehicle should be differentiated from one another. I would love to see Ford use something like fox body heritage cues for the affordable Mustang, sort of like how Hyundai Ioniq 5 has retro cues but still is a modern package. Very similar to what I have in mind. That being said, I used to want to see fox body design cues, but I'm kinda leaning more in the 60s now just because it's more timeless. Keeping the V8 mustang a fastback like a modern 1967 gt 500 blended with the surfacing and proportions of an Aston Martin. There's something called like the Aston Martin victor that looks pretty close to what I'd love to see with a next gen mustang. Still clearly a muscle car look, but with more evocative proportions. As for the CE1 mustang, something that's more like a notchback look like that lancia rendering. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeluxeStang Posted June 8 Share Posted June 8 (edited) So a recent presentation from Ford designers had them talking about the rs200 concept I shared a while back. Where it gets more interesting is at the very end of their presentation, they teased future variants of this concept. It's blurred out, but looking at the stance of this product, it's very clearly a lifted, more off-road oriented version of this design. The designers said there were "New terrains to explore". Why does this matter? because I firmly believe this could hint at the off-road supercar Farley talked about a few months ago. I'll also add they said they would reveal this later this year. Edited June 8 by DeluxeStang Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-dubz Posted June 8 Share Posted June 8 Eh, not really a fan of those colors on the mustang or bronco. Makes the mustang look like a high school girls car imo. I think you see a lot of those colors on jeeps because they stand out. There’s probably 100 white jeeps that drove by that you didn’t even notice. Now ford could definitely benefit from some other color choices. I’d like to see these colors make it in the rotation at some point. -grabber blue/orange (these would add some pop you guys are looking for) -Liquid blue (blue from the GT) -highland green (good replacement for eruption green) -leadfoot gray (this has been a no brainer for bronco, not sure why it hasn’t happened yet. Good replacement for carbonized gray) -rich copper (this would look great on the wildtrak or any black appearance package bronco) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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