Biker16 Posted May 9 Share Posted May 9 Detroit Three automakers blast Trump UK trade deal | Reuters Quote WASHINGTON/DETROIT, May 9 (Reuters) - A group representing General Motors (GM.N), opens new tab, Ford (F.N), opens new tab and Stellantis (STLAM.MI), opens new tab blasted President Donald Trump's trade deal announced with the United Kingdom, saying it would harm the U.S. auto sector. British carmakers will be given a quota of 100,000 cars a year that can be sent to the United States at a 10% tariff rate, almost the total Britain exported last year, compared to 25% for Mexico and Canada and nearly all other countries. "Under this deal, it will now be cheaper to import a UK vehicle with very little U.S. content than a USMCA compliant vehicle from Mexico or Canada that is half American parts," the American Automotive Policy Council, which represents the Detroit Three automakers, said on Thursday. "This hurts American automakers, suppliers, and auto workers." U.S. automakers are concerned this could be a template for other agreements that could put vehicles they assemble in Canada or Mexico at a disadvantage. White House spokesperson on Friday Kush Desai defended the deal. "No president has taken a greater personal interest in reviving the American auto industry than President Trump. The Trump administration is working hand-in-glove with automakers to reshore manufacturing that is critical to our national and economic security, including with custom-tailored tariff relief and deregulatory policies," he said. The automakers' group added it hopes "this preferential access for UK vehicles over North American ones does not set a precedent for future negotiations with Asian and European competitors." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted May 10 Share Posted May 10 Then it’s time for Mexico to step up to the bargaining table and get their own deal. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Rosadini Posted May 10 Share Posted May 10 15 hours ago, akirby said: Then it’s time for Mexico to step up to the bargaining table and get their own deal. No argument about Mexico but to me another example of a half baked solution that does not go into the details before pulling the trigger. This "agreement" should have been a good example that can be followed by others. This has Peter Retardo written all over it to use Musk's description of the ultimate butt kisser in Trump's circle🤔 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted May 10 Share Posted May 10 (edited) 17 hours ago, akirby said: Then it’s time for Mexico to step up to the bargaining table and get their own deal. Whatever beef he has with Mexico is one thing but he’s now hurting GM and Ford when there’s a good deal in place that he negotiated in his first term…. Mister “who negotiated this deal? (USMCA) not one person in the room was game to say “it was you mister president….” and does he even read what he signs….. Edited May 10 by jpd80 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted May 10 Share Posted May 10 7 minutes ago, jpd80 said: Whatever beef he has with Mexico is one thing but he’s now hurting GM and Ford when there’s a good deal in place that he negotiated in his first term…. Mister “who negotiated this deal? (USMCA) not one person in the room was game to say “it was you mister president….” and does he even read what he signs….. Guess what wasn’t a big problem during his first term but is now? Fentanyl. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted May 10 Share Posted May 10 53 minutes ago, akirby said: Guess what wasn’t a big problem during his first term but is now? Fentanyl. It is possible to address the issues separately without holding GM and Ford hostage 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted May 10 Share Posted May 10 1 hour ago, jpd80 said: It is possible to address the issues separately without holding GM and Ford hostage If it was that easy it would have already been done. It’s a bit extreme but when the other side has zero motivation to change you have to do something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blazerdude20 Posted May 10 Share Posted May 10 2 hours ago, akirby said: Guess what wasn’t a big problem during his first term but is now? Fentanyl. That’s not true. Fentanyl has been an issue in this country for close to a decade. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted May 10 Share Posted May 10 (edited) 17 minutes ago, blazerdude20 said: That’s not true. Fentanyl has been an issue in this country for close to a decade. Fenatanyl deaths by year. Probably exponentially higher by now. Edited May 10 by akirby Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick73 Posted May 10 Share Posted May 10 1 hour ago, jpd80 said: It is possible to address the issues separately without holding GM and Ford hostage Absolutely. Punishing the many innocent to make a few bad actors stop illegal behavior is generally wrong at any time, and on any subject, not just drugs. That’s a slippery slope. If governments want to stop criminals and evil people, and are willing to use extreme measures, then maybe punish the guilty severely in public and broadcast it for every person to see what will happen when due process is followed. You are correct that honest hard working Americans should not be penalized directly or indirectly to stop drugs. It’s not that complicated to stop, we just don’t have the stomach for what is required. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sullynd Posted May 10 Share Posted May 10 5 minutes ago, akirby said: Fenatanyl deaths by year. Probably exponentially higher by now. Is that with or without the 258 million fentanyl deaths Trump prevented in the last three months? how anyone could believe these people is beyond me. https://www.factcheck.org/2025/05/bondi-far-overstates-the-impact-of-fentanyl-seizures-on-american-lives/ 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted May 10 Share Posted May 10 17 minutes ago, Rick73 said: punish the guilty severely in public and broadcast it for every person to see what will happen when due process is followed. Even the death penalty doesn’t stop premeditated murder. Simply doesn’t work on hard core criminals. 21 minutes ago, Rick73 said: You are correct that honest hard working Americans should not be penalized directly or indirectly to stop drugs. Short term maybe a little but longer term it forces more manufacturing back to the US. More US jobs and no tariffs. The goal is for Mexico to be more proactive on drug smuggling and be more favorable to U.S. exports and the tariffs go away. Ball is in their court. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted May 10 Share Posted May 10 (edited) 23 minutes ago, akirby said: Even the death penalty doesn’t stop premeditated murder. Simply doesn’t work on hard core criminals. Short term maybe a little but longer term it forces more manufacturing back to the US. More US jobs and no tariffs. The goal is for Mexico to be more proactive on drug smuggling and be more favorable to U.S. exports and the tariffs go away. Ball is in their court. That can be done without the bully tactics, Trump just has to ask her, the president of Mexico nicely because Mexico already moved 10,000 troops to the border and patrolling their side better. Just keep the dialogue going because I’m sure that Mexico as a poorer nation doesn’t have unlimited funding or the resources to do all things the US wants in short order. What I would propose is that USMCA is up for renegotiation next year so between then and now, give Mexico an agreed set of KPIs to do by then including closer working relationship with US law enforcement in shutting down ransportation of fentanyl and pre cursor chemicals in Mexico. You might even find that Ford and GM might throw some money at Mexican government to help with certain projects, maybe some vehicles and equipment… Edited May 10 by jpd80 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick73 Posted May 10 Share Posted May 10 39 minutes ago, akirby said: Even the death penalty doesn’t stop premeditated murder. Simply doesn’t work on hard core criminals. Disagree completely. That’s liberal talk based on bad data because most liberals don’t actually want to execute anyone. For punishment to be effective, studies have shown that the probability of getting caught and sentenced are just as important, if not more so. Most hard core criminals know perfectly well that their chances of being convicted and executed are about as low as winning the lottery. So yeah, they laugh all the way to the bank, drawing others to emulate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted May 10 Share Posted May 10 All I hope is that the talks with China prove to be fruitful so that supply of fentanyl and base chemicals can be cut off at the source. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted May 10 Share Posted May 10 1 hour ago, jpd80 said: That can be done without the bully tactics, Trump just has to ask her, the president of Mexico nicely because Mexico already moved 10,000 troops to the border and patrolling their side better. Just keep the dialogue going because I’m sure that Mexico as a poorer nation doesn’t have unlimited funding or the resources to do all things the US wants in short order. What I would propose is that USMCA is up for renegotiation next year so between then and now, give Mexico an agreed set of KPIs to do by then including closer working relationship with US law enforcement in shutting down ransportation of fentanyl and pre cursor chemicals in Mexico. You might even find that Ford and GM might throw some money at Mexican government to help with certain projects, maybe some vehicles and equipment… I agree with the last part but the first part is silly. If she was willing to do something “if asked nicely” then why not offer that to resolve the tariff situation? Makes no sense. Thats why it’s called negotiation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted May 10 Share Posted May 10 54 minutes ago, Rick73 said: Disagree completely. That’s liberal talk based on bad data because most liberals don’t actually want to execute anyone. For punishment to be effective, studies have shown that the probability of getting caught and sentenced are just as important, if not more so. Most hard core criminals know perfectly well that their chances of being convicted and executed are about as low as winning the lottery. So yeah, they laugh all the way to the bank, drawing others to emulate. So even if you take the death penalty off the table you still have life in prison. Still doesn’t stop them. Criminals are criminals and they’re either stupid or don’t care. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted May 11 Share Posted May 11 1 hour ago, akirby said: I agree with the last part but the first part is silly. If she was willing to do something “if asked nicely” then why not offer that to resolve the tariff situation? Makes no sense. Thats why it’s called negotiation. Except he controls the term that others have to meet, that’s not negotiation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzymoomoo Posted May 11 Share Posted May 11 2 hours ago, jpd80 said: All I hope is that the talks with China prove to be fruitful so that supply of fentanyl and base chemicals can be cut off at the source. Thats laughable. The CCP won’t swallow their pride and take the L and it’s going to crush their economy. It’s already starting with several major Chinese banks going insolvent this week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted May 11 Share Posted May 11 (edited) 58 minutes ago, fuzzymoomoo said: Thats laughable. The CCP won’t swallow their pride and take the L and it’s going to crush their economy. It’s already starting with several major Chinese banks going insolvent this week. edit, scrap what I said. President just announced A very good meeting today with China in Switzerland Many things discussed, much agreed to. A total reset Negotiated in a friendly but constructive manner. We want to see for both the good of China and the US, an opening up of China to American business. GREAT PROGRESS MADE!!!! Now watch the stock market boom on Monday…. Edited May 11 by jpd80 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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