blazerdude20 Posted May 21, 2025 Share Posted May 21, 2025 https://www.jalopnik.com/1865276/2026-toyota-rav4-hybrid-reveal-design-specs-details/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AM222 Posted May 21, 2025 Share Posted May 21, 2025 (edited) The new Rav4 is divided to three basic styles, Core, Rugged, and Sporty. -Motor1 The red one is the 320hp GR Sport PHEV Edited May 21, 2025 by AM222 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmc523 Posted May 21, 2025 Share Posted May 21, 2025 Meh, the design doesn't do much for me, but I'm sure they'll sell a billion of them. Toyota is managing to make sporty and rugged versions of their compact model to make them more appealing... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmc523 Posted May 21, 2025 Share Posted May 21, 2025 Also, meanwhile, Toyota is releasing 24 new models in 2026 (it seems they're including new trim packages, but still, it's product). From GR86 to bZ Woodland: Toyota and Lexus Plan 24 New Models in 2026 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-dubz Posted May 21, 2025 Share Posted May 21, 2025 1 hour ago, rmc523 said: Meh, the design doesn't do much for me, but I'm sure they'll sell a billion of them. Toyota is managing to make sporty and rugged versions of their compact model to make them more appealing... I wish ford would take this approach. Each trim has a different front end, not just a different color or style of grille like ford does. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AM222 Posted May 21, 2025 Share Posted May 21, 2025 (edited) 1 hour ago, rmc523 said: Meh, the design doesn't do much for me, but I'm sure they'll sell a billion of them. Toyota is managing to make sporty and rugged versions of their compact model to make them more appealing... Yeah, smart move to make distinct rugged and sporty variants. A more affordable way to broaden the new Rav4's appeal ...and that GR Sport with 320hp, at least it's got some impressive-for-its-segment power to match its looks. I posted in another thread how the current Rav4 outsold the Escape, Maverick and Bronco Sport in 2024 (US market). Add to this the fact that the Rav4 is sold in more markets than the Escape/Kuga. Edited May 21, 2025 by AM222 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick73 Posted May 21, 2025 Share Posted May 21, 2025 Looks OK, but what I like best is what’s under the skin. We’ll have to wait for actual numbers and prices, including fuel economy, but preliminary specs like up to 50 miles of PHEV range, 3,500 pounds towing, and up to 320 combined HP out of a 4-cylinder NA Atkinson engine show what electrification can contribute and help accomplish. As I’ve mentioned before, future hybrids will likely depend on greater percentage of electric power, and less engine power. Car and Driver speculates PHEV may be a little pricey though. Fuel savings won’t pay the difference for someone like me who drives very little in city cycle. https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a64704544/2026-toyota-rav4-revealed/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grbeck Posted May 21, 2025 Share Posted May 21, 2025 4 hours ago, rmc523 said: Also, meanwhile, Toyota is releasing 24 new models in 2026 (it seems they're including new trim packages, but still, it's product). From GR86 to bZ Woodland: Toyota and Lexus Plan 24 New Models in 2026 Ford will release 24 revisions to its current plans during the same time period. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmc523 Posted May 21, 2025 Share Posted May 21, 2025 6 minutes ago, grbeck said: Ford will release 24 revisions to its current plans during the same time period. How exciting! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick73 Posted May 22, 2025 Share Posted May 22, 2025 It will be interesting to see if lack of standard engine and transmission in the 2026 RAV4, along with corresponding higher price of the now standard hybrid powertrain, will hurt RAV4 sales. Watching a TFLT video, where they compare a 2024 RAV4 to one 20 years older, shows that some people still value previously-standard 2.5L and 8-speed auto available in 2024. Other manufacturers, including Hyundai, are sticking with a base powertrain in Tucson which helps keep price down. Tucson offers a 187 HP 2.5L engine with 8 speed auto, and with an MSRP starting under $29K for SE. Offering a cheaper option seems a good idea to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AM222 Posted May 22, 2025 Share Posted May 22, 2025 (edited) 20 hours ago, rmc523 said: How exciting! Not sure what I want more... new/revised Ford models or better quality. Ford had 40 recalls in the first 4 months of the year. In 2024, this is how bad it was. Edited May 22, 2025 by AM222 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmc523 Posted May 22, 2025 Share Posted May 22, 2025 40 minutes ago, Rick73 said: It will be interesting to see if lack of standard engine and transmission in the 2026 RAV4, along with corresponding higher price of the now standard hybrid powertrain, will hurt RAV4 sales. Watching a TFLT video, where they compare a 2024 RAV4 to one 20 years older, shows that some people still value previously-standard 2.5L and 8-speed auto available in 2024. Other manufacturers, including Hyundai, are sticking with a base powertrain in Tucson which helps keep price down. Tucson offers a 187 HP 2.5L engine with 8 speed auto, and with an MSRP starting under $29K for SE. Offering a cheaper option seems a good idea to me. toyota faithful will buy it regardless. 26 minutes ago, AM222 said: Not sure what I want more... new/revised Ford models or better quality. Ford had 40 recalls in the first 4 months of the year. In 2024, this is how bad it was. I'll push back on that because we know that some of Ford's recalls only affected a few thousand units each, so the pure # of recalls doesn't necessarily mean much.....a # of vehicles recalled would be more accurate (and I think someone else took the "lead" from Ford on that right at the end of the year... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick73 Posted May 22, 2025 Share Posted May 22, 2025 1 hour ago, rmc523 said: toyota faithful will buy it regardless. Tacoma 2024 sales decline suggests otherwise; though I’d like to see longer-term data before jumping to conclusions. I think buyers have limits on what they will accept or tolerate based on personal preferences, and price is a big part of that. Agree Toyota has loyal customers based on reputation, as does Honda, but neither is immune from buyers walking away when justified. A lower-cost Escape trim level won’t make it the bestseller, but may help improve sales. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mackinaw Posted May 22, 2025 Share Posted May 22, 2025 2 hours ago, rmc523 said: I'll push back on that because we know that some of Ford's recalls only affected a few thousand units each, so the pure # of recalls doesn't necessarily mean much.....a # of vehicles recalled would be more accurate (and I think someone else took the "lead" from Ford on that right at the end of the year... A recent Bronco recall was for two vehicles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmc523 Posted May 22, 2025 Share Posted May 22, 2025 (edited) 48 minutes ago, Rick73 said: Tacoma 2024 sales decline suggests otherwise; though I’d like to see longer-term data before jumping to conclusions. I think buyers have limits on what they will accept or tolerate based on personal preferences, and price is a big part of that. Agree Toyota has loyal customers based on reputation, as does Honda, but neither is immune from buyers walking away when justified. A lower-cost Escape trim level won’t make it the bestseller, but may help improve sales. They changed over to the new model last year, and I believe there was a stop sale for a bit as well. So far this year, Tacoma sales are up 177% / 38k units for Q1 vs last year. Escape needs a better interior, which has been widely panned since launch. Competitors, which were already ahead, have only moved further away since then. 36 minutes ago, mackinaw said: A recent Bronco recall was for two vehicles. Exactly my point - # of vehicles recalled is more relevant. Edited May 22, 2025 by rmc523 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Rick73 Posted May 22, 2025 Share Posted May 22, 2025 Total number of affected vehicles is most important if a prospective buyer doing research takes the time to break data down. If they stop at number of recalls, that would likely lead to a different conclusion. Obviously manufacturer’s size and vehicle volume should also be taken into account, but doubt most buyers would. Have to say that GM appears to be doing quite well in this area. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blazerdude20 Posted May 23, 2025 Author Share Posted May 23, 2025 3 hours ago, Rick73 said: Total number of affected vehicles is most important if a prospective buyer doing research takes the time to break data down. If they stop at number of recalls, that would likely lead to a different conclusion. Obviously manufacturer’s size and vehicle volume should also be taken into account, but doubt most buyers would. Have to say that GM appears to be doing quite well in this area. Of course knowing GM history, one has to wonder if they are hiding something. 😂. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick73 Posted May 23, 2025 Share Posted May 23, 2025 29 minutes ago, blazerdude20 said: Of course knowing GM history, one has to wonder if they are hiding something. 😂. I just can’t believe that most buyers actually look deeply into number of recalls, or affected number of vehicles, etc. My guess (and that’s all it is) is that they consider and value the manufacturer’s reputation as reported by media and friends alike, whether that ranking is deserved or not. Results from article below reflect what many repeat; again, whether accurate or not. Most people I know believe Toyotas are great, Hondas are great, etc. Fords I think are viewed as average for the most part. https://fordauthority.com/2025/05/americans-say-ford-has-good-reputation-but-vibes-are-down-from-2024/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted May 23, 2025 Share Posted May 23, 2025 11 hours ago, blazerdude20 said: Of course knowing GM history, one has to wonder if they are hiding something. 😂. Most are including Ford in the past. Honda used to judo secret recalls - fix things while doing other work without the owner even knowing. Ford has been more willing to issue voluntary recalls earlier even when the number of vehicles is small, which is good. But it definitely skews the public perception based on headlines. Ford is bad but they’re not much worse than Honda, Chrysler or Tesla. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmc523 Posted November 19, 2025 Share Posted November 19, 2025 The 2026 Toyota RAV4 Is Cheaper Than Last Year's Hybrid The 2026 Toyota RAV4 starts at $33,350, making it $950 less than the previous hybrid once you include the mandatory $1,450 destination fee. For comparison, the outgoing RAV4 LE Hybrid AWD starts at $34,300. The new entry-level price applies to the base Hybrid LE FWD—AWD is no longer a standard affair. Here’s how it stacks up against last year’s model: Model Price 2025 Toyota RAV4 (Non-Hybrid) $31,195 2025 Toyota RAV4 Hybrid $34,300 2026 Toyota RAV4 Hybrid $33,350 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmc523 Posted November 19, 2025 Share Posted November 19, 2025 So base prices are up 2 grand via standard hybrid, but down a grand vs. the outgoing hybrid starting price. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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