Rick73 Posted June 6 Share Posted June 6 12 hours ago, akirby said: Not to mention…. Is that similar to flexible and adaptable to new conditions? Better than rigid and inflexible that lead to extremist views. 😀 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
morgan20 Posted June 12 Share Posted June 12 On 6/4/2025 at 9:57 AM, fordmantpw said: If people could get over the thought that they need 400 miles of range in an EV, and people would just drive one, I think sales would increase drastically. The driving experience of an EV far surpasses that of an ICE. We generally keep our Mach E charged (to 85%) so we've got it available. Last week, my mom called at 7:00 in the AM and I needed to take her to the hospital to see my dad. The Mach-E didn't have enough charge for the round trip (forgot to plug it in since we weren't going anywhere), so I debated on the Bronco, but it's hard for older folks to get into. So, I figured I would find a charging station and top off the Mach E before I headed home from the hospital. Well, it was about 5 minutes out of the way, but in 11 minutes of charging, I was able to add enough Tesla fuel (thanks for the adapter Ford!) to get us home with 25 miles to spare. It was easy! Plus, in nearly 13k miles, we STILL haven't had to take it in for an oil change! 😄 Yea, my local Quick Lane service centers refused to do oil changes on my F-150 Lightning in the 3 years I've had it. Oh well. 😃 Count me among the 18% of Americans that AAA claims are “very likely” or “likely” to buy a new or used EV (not a hybrid), cuz I just did! EV hype? There was and is no "EV hype". Don't these surveys amount to jack squat anyway? I'm headin' to Ray Skillman Ford in Greenwood, IN tomorrow to pick up a new '25 MME GT for Mrs. morgan20. With employee discount, final price comes to about $49k, about the same as a new Tesla Model Y Dual Motor AWD (refresh) and $10k less than a new Hyundai Ioniq 5 N. We test drove the MME and Ioniq 5 N at Skillman and the Model Y at the Southside Indianapolis Tesla store on Monday. Loved the driving experience on all of 'em, which as you mentioned far surpasses any comparable gas powered vehicle. My better half prefers the styling of the Ford over the others, especially the anonymous blob Model Y. So MME GT it is! Oh yea, got a message for the big shots at Ford: You announced that Ford's EV would adopt NACS two years ago! Yet our new '25 MME has a CCS1 port rather than NACS. WTF? And why are you cheap bastards making MME customers now pay $200 for the NACS adapter? 😠 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
morgan20 Posted June 12 Share Posted June 12 (edited) On 6/5/2025 at 9:29 AM, Rick73 said: Absolutely nobody I know likes the idea of having to wait 30 minutes while a car charges Yea, impatience is part of human nature. But the "having to wait" part is misleading when it comes to charging EV. At home, you plug the EV in and do something else around the house. At a public charger, after plugging in the vehicle you go to a nearby restaurant, supermarket, etc. and knock off items on your honey-do list. The Tesla/NACS Supercharger site off Southport Rd. in Indianapolis is right next to Meijer, several eateries, and Great Clips. So you can get your groceries, a haircut, and breakfast/lunch/dinner/snack while the car charges. Maybe not all of them all at once though. 😄 Edited June 12 by morgan20 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmc523 Posted June 12 Share Posted June 12 12 hours ago, morgan20 said: Yea, my local Quick Lane service centers refused to do oil changes on my F-150 Lightning in the 3 years I've had it. Oh well. 😃 Count me among the 18% of Americans that AAA claims are “very likely” or “likely” to buy a new or used EV (not a hybrid), cuz I just did! EV hype? There was and is no "EV hype". Don't these surveys amount to jack squat anyway? I'm headin' to Ray Skillman Ford in Greenwood, IN tomorrow to pick up a new '25 MME GT for Mrs. morgan20. With employee discount, final price comes to about $49k, about the same as a new Tesla Model Y Dual Motor AWD (refresh) and $10k less than a new Hyundai Ioniq 5 N. We test drove the MME and Ioniq 5 N at Skillman and the Model Y at the Southside Indianapolis Tesla store on Monday. Loved the driving experience on all of 'em, which as you mentioned far surpasses any comparable gas powered vehicle. My better half prefers the styling of the Ford over the others, especially the anonymous blob Model Y. So MME GT it is! Oh yea, got a message for the big shots at Ford: You announced that Ford's EV would adopt NACS two years ago! Yet our new '25 MME has a CCS1 port rather than NACS. WTF? And why are you cheap bastards making MME customers now pay $200 for the NACS adapter? 😠 Looks great, and good price too - I remember when I priced out the Mach E GTs a few years ago that they were like 62k. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blazerdude20 Posted June 13 Share Posted June 13 On 6/11/2025 at 6:22 PM, morgan20 said: Yea, my local Quick Lane service centers refused to do oil changes on my F-150 Lightning in the 3 years I've had it. Oh well. 😃 Count me among the 18% of Americans that AAA claims are “very likely” or “likely” to buy a new or used EV (not a hybrid), cuz I just did! EV hype? There was and is no "EV hype". Don't these surveys amount to jack squat anyway? I'm headin' to Ray Skillman Ford in Greenwood, IN tomorrow to pick up a new '25 MME GT for Mrs. morgan20. With employee discount, final price comes to about $49k, about the same as a new Tesla Model Y Dual Motor AWD (refresh) and $10k less than a new Hyundai Ioniq 5 N. We test drove the MME and Ioniq 5 N at Skillman and the Model Y at the Southside Indianapolis Tesla store on Monday. Loved the driving experience on all of 'em, which as you mentioned far surpasses any comparable gas powered vehicle. My better half prefers the styling of the Ford over the others, especially the anonymous blob Model Y. So MME GT it is! Oh yea, got a message for the big shots at Ford: You announced that Ford's EV would adopt NACS two years ago! Yet our new '25 MME has a CCS1 port rather than NACS. WTF? And why are you cheap bastards making MME customers now pay $200 for the NACS adapter? 😠 Check out A2ZEV adaptors. I have one for my lightning since Ford took 8 months to get me their factory one. $170 and you can get a 10% discount if you have use a code from Chargeway app. Comes in a nice padded case and has been solid thus far (Ford didn’t provide a case for theirs… cheap). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
morgan20 Posted June 13 Share Posted June 13 54 minutes ago, blazerdude20 said: Check out A2ZEV adaptors. I have one for my lightning since Ford took 8 months to get me their factory one. $170 and you can get a 10% discount if you have use a code from Chargeway app. Comes in a nice padded case and has been solid thus far (Ford didn’t provide a case for theirs… cheap). Hey blazerdude20, thanks for that! When I finalized the deal on the MME, I negotiated with Skillman to substitute $500 bonus cash plus a NACS adapter in lieu of a complimentary Ford home charger that Ford is givin' out as part of the "Ford Power Promise" promotion because I already have a home charger from when I bought the F-150 Lightning back in 2022 and don't need a second one. We'll share the charger between the MME and Lightning. So we got the adapter free when we took delivery of the MME yesterday. But in the future I'll keep A2Z in mind, and also spread the word to friends and family. Link to A2Z shop: https://a2zevshop.com/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twintornados Posted June 13 Share Posted June 13 While I was not ready for the "leap" into the EV end of the pond....my hybrid is a stepping stone and I really believe my next ride will be an EV....and a Ford....of course. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
morgan20 Posted June 15 Share Posted June 15 On 6/13/2025 at 5:10 PM, twintornados said: While I was not ready for the "leap" into the EV end of the pond....my hybrid is a stepping stone and I really believe my next ride will be an EV....and a Ford....of course. Hopefully Ford's skunkworks is busy and will bring some appealing EV to market when you're ready to get your next car (or before)! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmc523 Posted June 16 Share Posted June 16 20 hours ago, morgan20 said: Hopefully Ford's skunkworks is busy and will bring some appealing EV to market when you're ready to get your next car (or before)! This may be possible if he's in the market in 2037 at this point lol. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twintornados Posted June 16 Share Posted June 16 2 hours ago, rmc523 said: This may be possible if he's in the market in 2037 at this point lol. I am sure I'll be in the market before then.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
balthisar Posted June 23 Share Posted June 23 On 6/5/2025 at 9:43 AM, Biker16 said: It's called net metering. We don't have net metering, though, at least not in SE Michigan. Some states still have it, I've heard, and maybe a small number of folks in Michigan may be grandfathered into net metering plans, but the rest of us are only credited for the "capacity" portion of each kWh, that is, the actual energy cost. Operations, cost recovery, volumetric surcharges, and distribution are not net metered. Since I'd lose my "Experimental Vehicle Service TOD" pricing with solar, then using the forced "Residential Electric Service TOD" rates (as of December peak [sunny time]), I'd only be reimbursed 1.438¢ per kWh going out, versus 16.982¢ coming in. Obviously if batteries weren't so expensive, that would be the much better deal. And, actually, I don't have solar because every time I try to TARR it out, it doesn't make sense. My last quotes (without a battery) all came in at the $25k to $30k range for a 6kW system (not accounting for my EV). Leaving the money in VTI/VXUS/BND still has a better ROI than solar. Oh, and because I'm tied to the grid, I need DTE's approval on system design, which doesn't account for future consumption growth (stepping up from a Mach E to a future electrified Expedition), or for panel degradation. DTE will do a 12 month lookback and tell me the maximum system size we can install! Maybe it would make sense with net metering, but since net metering is fantasy anyway, I'm not going to bother doing the math (and in many respects, net metering is a bit unfair – the utilities do have costs associated with managing the grid, and as such, true "net" is not appropriate). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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