2025 F-150 Lobo

[T-dubz]

On 6/15/2025 at 8:50 AM, Rick73 said:

When did 400 HP become inadequate? 😀

 

 

Seriously though, I think offering standard V8 is the right call.  It helps keep initial price down, gets buyers to spend more later on aftermarket upgrades, and better protects/isolates Ford from those who think that encouraging any type of street racing is irresponsible corporate behavior.  I know many here disagree but I believe it turns off a small segment of population anyway.  A standard V8 may also help with warranty costs.

I think it has more to do with how the package is being advertised. Ford calls it a “bad ass street machine” on their website and other websites are calling it a street or performance truck (not sure if ford has ever called it that). With those kinda words being thrown around, people expect more power, especially with ford’s sport truck history with the lightning. If everyone referred to it as an appearance package, you wouldn’t hear the same complaints about power. 
 

The lobo package reminds me a lot of the 2003 f150 stx package. Way back before stx was a trim, you could get it added as a package to an XL. The package looked very similar to a Lightning in the front and came with some nice audio upgrades. It was all show and no go too, but it made an XL look pretty good back then. 

2003 stx

vs lightning

[akirby]

I should have said Ford performance.  Dealer installed, factory installed - not much difference.

[bzcat]

5 hours ago, akirby said:

I think they’re expecting most buyers to opt for the factory supercharger which should net 700+ hp far exceeding any ecoboost output even with a tune.

 

The supercharger kit can be installed on any 5.0 so it has nothing to do with Lobo per se. The Lobo package is all about selling XL for XLT money.

[akirby]

1 hour ago, bzcat said:

 

The supercharger kit can be installed on any 5.0 so it has nothing to do with Lobo per se. The Lobo package is all about selling XL for XLT money.

I wasn’t sure if it was compatible with the higher output 5.0s, but the point is using the base 5.0 is the cheapest way to yield really good performance and basing it on STX also keeps the cost down while providing an easy path to huge power just by adding a supercharger.

 

As opposed to a street version of a $80k - $90k Raptor.

[Rick73]

What’s the cost of a supercharger including installation, in range of $10k more or less? Just can’t see a large percentage of Lobo buyers upgrading.

[morgan20]

12 hours ago, Rick73 said:

What’s the cost of a supercharger including installation, in range of $10k more or less? Just can’t see a large percentage of Lobo buyers upgrading.

 

When introduced a few years ago, FP700 Black Edition kit (3.0-liter Whipple supercharger, 22-inch wheels, rear lowering kit, gloss black front grille, bedside graphics, tailgate lettering, rocker panel aero delete, Ford Performance floor mats) was $12,350 and the Ford Performance Exhaust was an additional $1,585. Contact Beechmont Ford in Cincinnati for current pricing.

 

My bone stock F-150 Lightning will outrun the FP700 Black Edition from 0 to 60 though, and the Lightning is more capable as a pickup truck too 😀

 

 

 

Edited June 17, 2025 by morgan20

[ZanatWork]

That supercharger kit is a big $$ "option", as opposed to what would likely be under $1000 for a different grade of 5.0.

It's not that 400 hp is inadequate...I remember being a teenager and thinking that a 225 hp 5.0 "Fox" Mustang was perfection...but, the horsepower wars are still underway with some competition bringing displacement/torque advantages. Ford has a brutal history when finding it to be "adequate" to aim for mid-market.

When promoting performance vehicles, spec sheets are part of the eye candy. It simply seems that this was a slightly underwhelming approach.

[akirby]

41 minutes ago, ZanatWork said:

That supercharger kit is a big $$ "option", as opposed to what would likely be under $1000 for a different grade of 5.0.

It's not that 400 hp is inadequate...I remember being a teenager and thinking that a 225 hp 5.0 "Fox" Mustang was perfection...but, the horsepower wars are still underway with some competition bringing displacement/torque advantages. Ford has a brutal history when finding it to be "adequate" to aim for mid-market.

When promoting performance vehicles, spec sheets are part of the eye candy. It simply seems that this was a slightly underwhelming approach.

It’s a $10k package from Ford performance plus install.  If they dropped in a predator it would be a lot more.  

[fordmantpw]

And this way they have both markets.  The group that just wants the appearance gets it from the factory.  If you want the "go" with the "show", just plop down $10k for the SC.  Win/win!