rmc523 Posted June 24 Share Posted June 24 Automakers with the Most Recalls in 2025 - CarEdge 2025 Is Turning Into A Recall Disaster For Ford - Autoblog Only halfway through 2025, the Blue Oval has already surpassed its total recalls for 2024. In an analysis done by Carscoops, Ford has issued 81 recalls in 2025 so far. That’s more than the entire number of recalls (67) for the brand in 2024, when Ford was only behind Stellantis (72) for total recalls. At this rate, Ford will hit over 150 recalls by the time the year is done. Those 81 recalls have affected over four million vehicles, and Ford has issued a recall every 2.12 days so far in 2025, on average. For each recall, an average of over 50,000 vehicles are affected. Even worse, 80 of the 81 recalls this year required some kind of physical inspection or fix for the impacted vehicles, so the problems were such that they couldn’t be easily resolved via an over-the-air update. SO much for improving quality lol. Number of recalls also doesn't tell the full story - number of vehicles recalled also matters, but Ford leads the pack at 1.8M vs. 2nd place GM at 773k vehicles. The recalls to fix recalls are also ridiculous. I know Ford is being more proactive, but still... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Rosadini Posted June 24 Share Posted June 24 And I thought "well these are mostly software issues". I guess this sets the record straight on that point. I wonder just what is the metric is that the board uses to set Mr. Farley's annual earnings??? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmc523 Posted June 26 Author Share Posted June 26 Lincoln Aviator Recall Raises Concerns Over Ford's Build Quality - Autoblog In a safety recall filed with the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA), Ford disclosed that more than 132,000 units of the 2020–2025 Lincoln Aviator are being recalled due to trim components that may fall off while the vehicle is in motion. It’s a basic problem, but one with potentially dangerous consequences. And for a brand that markets itself on quiet luxury and craftsmanship, it’s another credibility blow. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmc523 Posted June 26 Author Share Posted June 26 Ford COO Kumar Galhotra Says 2025 Model Year Quality Has Improved But, Kumar Golhotra is saying 2025s are better? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Rosadini Posted June 27 Share Posted June 27 8 hours ago, rmc523 said: Ford COO Kumar Galhotra Says 2025 Model Year Quality Has Improved But, Kumar Golhotra is saying 2025s are better? Probably true as only trim is falling off an NOT the doors😎 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoonerLS Posted June 28 Share Posted June 28 On 6/26/2025 at 1:22 PM, rmc523 said: Ford COO Kumar Galhotra Says 2025 Model Year Quality Has Improved But, Kumar Golhotra is saying 2025s are better? Counterintuitively, that might actually be true. Looking at the recalls, many of them are preemptive recalls over issues that Ford found, not issues that customers have reported, and they’re just issuing recalls in case some customer vehicles are affected. F’rinstance, there are 7 open recalls on the 2025 F-150, and for six of them, “Ford is not aware of any warranty claims, field or customer reports associated with [this issue].” (Heck, one is over a missing airbag sticker, which obviously makes the vehicle unsafe to drive.) The seventh was discovered by a service tech in a pre-delivery inspection, so even it didn’t make it to an actual customer. That’s not to say that they’re not bad—the Bronco has a “do not drive” warning on two of its recalls because of improperly installed bolts in the front suspension—but at least they’re catching and fixing most of the issues before they affect customers. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmc523 Posted June 30 Author Share Posted June 30 (edited) On 6/28/2025 at 11:04 AM, SoonerLS said: Counterintuitively, that might actually be true. Looking at the recalls, many of them are preemptive recalls over issues that Ford found, not issues that customers have reported, and they’re just issuing recalls in case some customer vehicles are affected. F’rinstance, there are 7 open recalls on the 2025 F-150, and for six of them, “Ford is not aware of any warranty claims, field or customer reports associated with [this issue].” (Heck, one is over a missing airbag sticker, which obviously makes the vehicle unsafe to drive.) The seventh was discovered by a service tech in a pre-delivery inspection, so even it didn’t make it to an actual customer. That’s not to say that they’re not bad—the Bronco has a “do not drive” warning on two of its recalls because of improperly installed bolts in the front suspension—but at least they’re catching and fixing most of the issues before they affect customers. Interesting comments from Galhotra, given Ford's results in the IQS were worse than last year.... 2025 U.S. Initial Quality Study (IQS) | J.D. Power JD Power 2025 Initial Quality Study - Ford Motor Company Discussion Forum - Blue Oval Forums Edited June 30 by rmc523 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
morgan20 Posted June 30 Share Posted June 30 7 hours ago, rmc523 said: Interesting comments from Galhotra, given Ford's results in the IQS were worse than last year.... 2025 U.S. Initial Quality Study (IQS) | J.D. Power JD Power 2025 Initial Quality Study - Ford Motor Company Discussion Forum - Blue Oval Forums Yea, it's interesting that big shot Galhotra said: “Ford and Lincoln were the most improved brands in J.D. Power’s 2025 U.S. Vehicle Dependability Study” That study is for 3 year old vehicles (2022 MY). IQS is for the current model year (2025). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoonerLS Posted June 30 Share Posted June 30 (edited) 9 hours ago, rmc523 said: Interesting comments from Galhotra, given Ford's results in the IQS were worse than last year.... He was talking about warranty numbers and the VDS, where Ford has improved vs last year. The IQS numbers really aren’t relevant to what he was discussing unless they show up in the warranty numbers, which, apparently, they’re not. If people are bitching to high heaven about having to use a touchscreen to change the temperature or the radio station, that’s something that could be reflected in the IQS but not in the warranty numbers. Likewise with customer complaints about things where they just don’t know how to use a feature or it doesn’t work the way they expect—things that the dealer can head off before it becomes a warranty claim. Edited June 30 by SoonerLS 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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rmc523 Posted July 1 Author Share Posted July 1 12 hours ago, SoonerLS said: He was talking about warranty numbers and the VDS, where Ford has improved vs last year. The IQS numbers really aren’t relevant to what he was discussing unless they show up in the warranty numbers, which, apparently, they’re not. If people are bitching to high heaven about having to use a touchscreen to change the temperature or the radio station, that’s something that could be reflected in the IQS but not in the warranty numbers. Likewise with customer complaints about things where they just don’t know how to use a feature or it doesn’t work the way they expect—things that the dealer can head off before it becomes a warranty claim. Whoops, I didn't read closely enough - I missed that his statement was regarding VDS, not IQS. Disregard my above comments lol. Let's hope that things continue to improve, and hope that the recall situation resolves itself soon, because even if they're minor issues and/or it's Ford being proactive rather than reactive, it's not a good look, and an easy target for a media that loves a punching bag. We all know how people love to read incendiary headlines these days too and media does it for clicks/ad revenue. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeluxeStang Posted July 1 Share Posted July 1 On 6/28/2025 at 9:04 AM, SoonerLS said: Counterintuitively, that might actually be true. Looking at the recalls, many of them are preemptive recalls over issues that Ford found, not issues that customers have reported, and they’re just issuing recalls in case some customer vehicles are affected. F’rinstance, there are 7 open recalls on the 2025 F-150, and for six of them, “Ford is not aware of any warranty claims, field or customer reports associated with [this issue].” (Heck, one is over a missing airbag sticker, which obviously makes the vehicle unsafe to drive.) The seventh was discovered by a service tech in a pre-delivery inspection, so even it didn’t make it to an actual customer. Yep. My 2017 explorer has been basically the most reliable car my family has ever owned, but if someone was just going off the number of recalls, they'd think 2011-19 explorers had a lot of problems. But so many of those recalls are basically for cosmetic issues. Like I had a recall because a few of the clips on the roof rack cover were popping up on the rear. The cover as a whole still seemed to be firmly attached, so it wasn't in danger of flying off, it just didn't look great. Then there are recalls because these decorative black panels on the pillar might come off. Meanwhile Nissan cvts are destroying themselves left and right and to my knowledge, Nissan never issued a definitive fix for them via a recall. Ford's out here recalling over cosmetic issues essentially, and other brands are ignoring their powertrains exploding. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
morgan20 Posted July 1 Share Posted July 1 1 hour ago, DeluxeStang said: Ford's out here recalling over cosmetic issues essentially, and other brands are ignoring their powertrains exploding. Ford has plenty of issues with powertrains exploding, here's one from last year: Ford has issued a recall impacting 85,238 Ford Explorer vehicles equipped with the Police Interceptor Utility package and 3.3L Hybrid and Gas engines. The recall follows reports of under-hood fires resulting from engine failures, specifically incidents where engine oil and fuel vapor are released into the engine compartment due to an "engine block breach." In simpler terms, an engine block breach typically refers to a catastrophic failure where a connecting rod punctures through the engine block, often leading to significant damage and potentially dangerous situations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmc523 Posted July 1 Author Share Posted July 1 15 minutes ago, morgan20 said: Ford has plenty of issues with powertrains exploding, here's one from last year: Ford has issued a recall impacting 85,238 Ford Explorer vehicles equipped with the Police Interceptor Utility package and 3.3L Hybrid and Gas engines. The recall follows reports of under-hood fires resulting from engine failures, specifically incidents where engine oil and fuel vapor are released into the engine compartment due to an "engine block breach." In simpler terms, an engine block breach typically refers to a catastrophic failure where a connecting rod punctures through the engine block, often leading to significant damage and potentially dangerous situations. Sure, but his point is not all recalls are the same. Similar to on those quality reports - someone not knowing how to program their bluetooth is different than the screen went blank and a wheel fell off. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joseodiaga4 Posted July 4 Share Posted July 4 2025 Ford Expedition, Lincoln Navigator Recalled Over Faulty Air Bags Ford Motor Company is recalling select 2025 Ford Expedition and Lincoln Navigator SUVs over faulty passenger side air bags. https://fordauthority.com/2025/07/2025-ford-expedition-lincoln-navigator-recalled-over-faulty-air-bags/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherminator98 Posted Sunday at 02:35 AM Share Posted Sunday at 02:35 AM On 7/4/2025 at 12:27 PM, joseodiaga4 said: 2025 Ford Expedition, Lincoln Navigator Recalled Over Faulty Air Bags Ford Motor Company is recalling select 2025 Ford Expedition and Lincoln Navigator SUVs over faulty passenger side air bags. https://fordauthority.com/2025/07/2025-ford-expedition-lincoln-navigator-recalled-over-faulty-air-bags/ Number of vehicles affected: 171 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbone Posted Sunday at 05:25 AM Share Posted Sunday at 05:25 AM 2 hours ago, Sherminator98 said: Number of vehicles affected: 171 I understand your point, that it is 171 units, but it is yet another headline and not good for business. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joseodiaga4 Posted Sunday at 12:06 PM Share Posted Sunday at 12:06 PM 9 hours ago, Sherminator98 said: Number of vehicles affected: 171 Not many then again, but it is not good for business, I mean didn’t they invite the press to check the factory and the quality checks and etc etc? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted Sunday at 01:22 PM Share Posted Sunday at 01:22 PM 7 hours ago, tbone said: I understand your point, that it is 171 units, but it is yet another headline and not good for business. It’s misleading not to include the vehicle count in the headline. But Ford recalls 171 vehicles isn’t as click worthy. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mustang84isu Posted Sunday at 05:36 PM Share Posted Sunday at 05:36 PM I hope I don't jinx myself, but weirdly we've had almost zero issues with most of our FoMoCo vehicles over the last 10 years. The only one that gave me a lot of headaches was my '01 Lincoln LS V8, which started having a lot of issues after 100K. But my '07 MKZ that I kept until 140K never had anything major fail on it, and our '17 Edge 2.0 now at about 130K had the turbo wastegate valve recently replaced but otherwise we've had no issues with it. My Continental also has been great so far, but it only has 65K on it. I probably spent more on the LS for mechanical repairs than I have on the last three vehicles combined. We'll be replacing the Edge in the next year, but kinda nervous looking at newer Fords with all of the recalls going on lately. I'm glad Ford is being proactive, but it is not a good look that these issues are getting shipped out and not being caught at the factory or during testing when they have supposedly been lased focused on quality the last couple years. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherminator98 Posted Monday at 11:55 AM Share Posted Monday at 11:55 AM 22 hours ago, akirby said: It’s misleading not to include the vehicle count in the headline. But Ford recalls 171 vehicles isn’t as click worthy. Welcome to internet 101 where misleading headlines are the rule to get clicks...sigh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe771476 Posted Monday at 07:14 PM Share Posted Monday at 07:14 PM Gee, I sold auto parts from 1966 to 1996 and I've been repairing my own cars for longer. Pontiacs had timing chain issues. The only other GM issue was starters. The only other GM issue was starters. Same for Chrysler and Ford. And that was it! Mid-80's Fords had Control Module issues. It was mounted in front wheel housing. You loosened two bolts and unplugged electrical connections and in 5 minutes you were done. There were only three headlight part numbers that fit GM, Chrysler and Ford. A fourth was the 6 Volt for VW Beetles. Fifteen air filter part numbers were all you needed for all three mfrs. There were no recalls. We've made no progress! On a side note, Farley says AI will eliminate 50 % of white collar jobs. What are these people going to do? Watch and listen to the lyrics of the link below. Virtually nothing has change in 60 years! Very sad. In Terminator 2, the young John Connor says to the original Terminator (Arnold), "We're not going to make it, are we?" The Terminator says, "You have a tendency to destroy yourselves." We haven't learned a damn thing from the Terminator and Matrix movies!!!! (819) Barry McGuire - Eve Of Destruction - YouTube Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
02MustangGT Posted Tuesday at 10:01 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 10:01 PM This will be a headline worth the attention: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherminator98 Posted Wednesday at 04:23 PM Share Posted Wednesday at 04:23 PM 18 hours ago, 02MustangGT said: This will be a headline worth the attention: Crap....I've been noticing that my Bronco has been running ever so slightly rough in the hot weather we've been having...this would explain that. And I fall into that range. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbone Posted Wednesday at 06:19 PM Share Posted Wednesday at 06:19 PM 20 hours ago, 02MustangGT said: This will be a headline worth the attention: Clearly, these pumps would’ve been supplied by a supplier. Is this another instance of Ford browbeating their supplier to save the penny and contributing to their low supplier relations score? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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