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1 hour ago, fuzzymoomoo said:

One of the railfan forums I’m on has a running thread of all the incidents involving the Brightline. Part of the problem is morons complaining about the train horns so municipalities declare quiet zones. It’s absolute insanity. 

 

Iron Mountain Michigan has a "no train horn zone" right in its downtown.  

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40 minutes ago, fuzzymoomoo said:

Is that CN or LS&I territory?

 

From what I recall, it's mainly "Escanaba and lake Superior" (ELS) which hauls logs and pulpwood to sawmills in the U.P. and Wisconsin.  CN still hauls iron ore on occasion.  

 

I lived in Iron Mountain back in the 70's.  Cool town.

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5 hours ago, mackinaw said:

 

From what I recall, it's mainly "Escanaba and lake Superior" (ELS) which hauls logs and pulpwood to sawmills in the U.P. and Wisconsin.  CN still hauls iron ore on occasion.  

 

I lived in Iron Mountain back in the 70's.  Cool town.


oh yeah. I forget ELS exists. Kind of a derelict operation.

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Late to the party for deer stories, but have a couple.  I live out in the country, so lot of that goes on here (though we do prefer to use guns).  When I was younger, my brother was coming home and saw deer along the road so he stopped (I think he has hit a record number of deer over the years).  Sure enough, the two fawns (still had spots) ran right into the side of his truck and dented the bed.  He thought they were dead so he threw them in the back of the truck and came home.  We went out to take a look and the bastards jump out of his truck and start running around the front yard.  We're trying to catch them and take them back to where he hit but we never could catch them.  It was pretty funny watching us run around the yard trying to catch a couple fawns.  😄

 

My wife and I lived near St. Louis for a couple years after college, and we were headed to work one day (I was a consultant in a building about 2 blocks from her office) through a fairly rural suburb called Town and Country.  Out of the woods, a deer comes running straight for the road.  My wife was driving and slowed down, only to see the deer jump completely over the car in front of us.  This was about 1999, so before the huge SUV craze took over completely, so plenty of people still drove cars.  It cleared the car completely, didn't hit anything, and landed on the highway on the other side of the car, it's hooves skidding for traction, and took off.  Craziest deer happening I've ever seen!

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1 hour ago, fordmantpw said:

Late to the party for deer stories, but have a couple.  I live out in the country, so lot of that goes on here (though we do prefer to use guns).  When I was younger, my brother was coming home and saw deer along the road so he stopped (I think he has hit a record number of deer over the years).  Sure enough, the two fawns (still had spots) ran right into the side of his truck and dented the bed.  He thought they were dead so he threw them in the back of the truck and came home.  We went out to take a look and the bastards jump out of his truck and start running around the front yard.  We're trying to catch them and take them back to where he hit but we never could catch them.  It was pretty funny watching us run around the yard trying to catch a couple fawns.  😄

 

My wife and I lived near St. Louis for a couple years after college, and we were headed to work one day (I was a consultant in a building about 2 blocks from her office) through a fairly rural suburb called Town and Country.  Out of the woods, a deer comes running straight for the road.  My wife was driving and slowed down, only to see the deer jump completely over the car in front of us.  This was about 1999, so before the huge SUV craze took over completely, so plenty of people still drove cars.  It cleared the car completely, didn't hit anything, and landed on the highway on the other side of the car, it's hooves skidding for traction, and took off.  Craziest deer happening I've ever seen!

Deer are becoming increasingly hostile during hunting season!

 

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23 hours ago, ANTAUS said:

Gotta love the Brightline, it really shows how "Not BRIGHT" the FL population is.  I think they are at 182 last time I  checked.  Waiting to see a Youtube channel or Tiktok pop up just dedicated to that. We even had a Firetruck stop on the tracks and get hit (Wonder if the firefighter still has his job)...

 

I remember the fire truck thing! 

 

21 hours ago, fuzzymoomoo said:

One of the railfan forums I’m on has a running thread of all the incidents involving the Brightline. Part of the problem is morons complaining about the train horns so municipalities declare quiet zones. It’s absolute insanity. 

 

Yeah, most areas near where I am are "quiet" zones, and they supposedly add more gates/barriers, but it clearly doesn't do anything.

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On 11/21/2025 at 7:22 AM, fordmantpw said:

When I was younger, my brother was coming home and saw deer along the road so he stopped (I think he has hit a record number of deer over the years).  Sure enough, the two fawns (still had spots) ran right into the side of his truck and dented the bed.

A few years ago, I was driving fairly slowly down a 2-lane highway late on a foggy night. The terrain was hilly, so when it dipped down I’d come out of the fog, then go back into it on the next hill. On one of these dips, I saw a buck standing on the centerline, so I slowed down even further and moved right to go around it. 
 

It was somewhere past my door when the dumb son of a buck turned and ran into the side of the bed. 180 degrees it could’ve gone and not run into anything, but the dumbass turned and ran into the big red truck. Fortunately, it didn’t do any damage to the truck, but it sure sounded like a heck of a hit.

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On 11/21/2025 at 4:03 PM, rmc523 said:

Yeah, most areas near where I am are "quiet" zones, and they supposedly add more gates/barriers, but it clearly doesn't do anything.

Most of Norman has been a “quiet zone” for 15-20 years. By law, the railroads had to add crossing gates on all on-grade crossings in the state around that timeframe, and they made the switch to being a quiet zone about the same time, but I don’t know if either made any difference in safety.
 

Fun fact: Norman was named after Abner Norman, who was a railroad surveyor (for the Santa Fe, IIRC) in the 19th century. He had a rail car with his name on the side parked on a siding after one of the Land Runs in 1889, when the city was founded, and the name stuck.

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1 hour ago, twintornados said:

While a lot of hay has been made over Ford announcing recalls, some are just odd.....I mean why issue a formal recall when the amount of cars being recalled is 1?? 

 

 

 

It's an easy headline to say "Ford has 138 recalls!!!!" but not all recalls are created equal, as you point out.  Ford has also had a ton of vehicles recalled too, but it's better they're proactive rather than reactive.

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58 minutes ago, coupe3w said:

Looks like that Ford is trying to break their own record for recalls. So glad the new quality guy is working out for them.


This part goes back to 2022 so it's not a new problem.  They are actively seeking out older problems and fixing them.  It does not mean that new quality improvements aren't working so please give it a rest.  If new problems keep cropping up on 2026 models then you can start bitching again.

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On 12/19/2025 at 5:25 PM, rmc523 said:

Ford Recalls 273K Vehicles Over Rollaway Risk

 

I just used https://www.nhtsa.gov/recalls to check the VIN for my '22 F-150 Lightning and my wife's '25 MME GT, and both vehicles are affected by this recall (25V863)! 

 

Maybe it's time to head to the local BMV branch and get two new personalized Indiana blackout plates for our vehicles: RECALL22 and RECALL25. 🤣

 

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