Sherminator98 Posted July 17 Share Posted July 17 https://fordauthority.com/2025/07/china-throws-giant-wrench-into-ford-ev-battery-plant-plans/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmc523 Posted July 17 Share Posted July 17 Aka we required foreign brands to partner with our companies, now we're making you pay again for this stuff lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbone Posted July 18 Share Posted July 18 “We don’t misappropriate [intellectual property] at Ford,” she said. “You just can’t use it without that. You’ll be in violation of a piece of paper that has passed across the globe. It’s just a means to get that back.” Drake noted that the entire project “got caught up in the political storm,” adding that licensing the LFP battery tech is “the right thing to do” for both jobs and Ford’s future EV projects.” A couple points of interest: – China does misappropriate intellectual property. Just sayin’ - The right thing to do is develop your own technology, and not be reliant on the enemy. Perhaps you should’ve worked out our licensing deal with Tesla instead, an American company. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick73 Posted July 18 Share Posted July 18 6 hours ago, tbone said: - The right thing to do is develop your own technology, and not be reliant on the enemy. Perhaps you should’ve worked out our licensing deal with Tesla instead, an American company. Yeah, never understood getting in bed with an enemy. Not sure Tesla has battery technology that can solve this problem though. Do they not also license batteries from various sources as well? AFAIK LG and Panasonic are owned by friendly countries so perhaps less of a risk? At least for now South Korea and Japan are on better terms. In any case it’s good to see Panasonic open new large plant in Kansas. Beats importing batteries from China. https://insideevs.com/news/765796/panasonic-worlds-largest-battery-plant-tesla-kansas/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 At the moment it feels like every other country is being treated like the enemy by USA, just sayin’ 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherminator98 Posted July 19 Author Share Posted July 19 On 7/18/2025 at 1:48 AM, tbone said: - The right thing to do is develop your own technology, and not be reliant on the enemy. Perhaps you should’ve worked out our licensing deal with Tesla instead, an American company. On 7/18/2025 at 9:01 AM, Rick73 said: .Beats importing batteries from China. They are using the tech to make the batteries, that is what the issue is, they aren't coming from China, plus Ford has developed their own batteries, but that is another 3-5 years out for production. https://www.freep.com/story/money/cars/ford/2025/04/24/ford-ev-battery-lithium-manganese-rich/83231092007/ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbone Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 On 7/18/2025 at 8:01 AM, Rick73 said: Yeah, never understood getting in bed with an enemy. Not sure Tesla has battery technology that can solve this problem though. Do they not also license batteries from various sources as well? AFAIK LG and Panasonic are owned by friendly countries so perhaps less of a risk? At least for now South Korea and Japan are on better terms. In any case it’s good to see Panasonic open new large plant in Kansas. Beats importing batteries from China. https://insideevs.com/news/765796/panasonic-worlds-largest-battery-plant-tesla-kansas/ 5 hours ago, Sherminator98 said: They are using the tech to make the batteries, that is what the issue is, they aren't coming from China, plus Ford has developed their own batteries, but that is another 3-5 years out for production. https://www.freep.com/story/money/cars/ford/2025/04/24/ford-ev-battery-lithium-manganese-rich/83231092007/ Yeah, I misread my source of information related to Tesla and LFP. It appears Tesla is also licensing CATL technology in order to build its LFP batteries. There was indication that they were in the process of developing their own technology however, that apparently has not come to fruition yet. So it appears the LFP batteries they’re building in the Giga, Nevada, factory are not proprietary. I can see at some point how batteries will be a commodity, but during these early years, they can be a strategic advantage. With that said, I wonder if there shouldn’t be more collaboration between the US manufacturers on battery development in order to rid themselves of Chinese reliance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe771476 Posted August 6 Share Posted August 6 I read Ford is delaying new EV launches until 2027. I can't believe they're still wasting money on EV's. They just don't learn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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