Ford Universal Electric Platform

[DeluxeStang]

20 hours ago, jpd80 said:

Ford does not fully understand BEV buyers (how can anyone)

so it is making CE1 affordable with a modest sized battery

but I bet that most buyers will want/expect the long range

battery as a default standard.

Yep, and that's why I'm concerned. A lot of this is good on paper, the new production system, skunkworks approach, relying on smaller, lighter vehicles than don't need massive batteries, hiring F1 aero people to have world class aero. 

 

All of that is genius. Where I'm concerned is the execution, seeing how all of this comes together. Will the CE1 stuff be really captivating products with great quality, design, and range? Or will they look like eggs on wheels and go 180 miles?

That's gonna be the deciding factor. You can't get so lost in innovation that you lose the customer.

[rmc523]

15 hours ago, twintornados said:

 

cough-cough CD6 cough-cough

 

I think it was originally supposed to spawn a Ford/Lincoln sedan too?

 

15 hours ago, jpd80 said:

From Bikers link, Ford has sunk $5 billion into what I assume was CE1 project, Louisville reconfiguration and battery production….that’s a lot of money to recover.

 

Meh, Ford will probably cancel it like it's nothing lol

 

11 hours ago, DeluxeStang said:

Yep, and that's why I'm concerned. A lot of this is good on paper, the new production system, skunkworks approach, relying on smaller, lighter vehicles than don't need massive batteries, hiring F1 aero people to have world class aero. 

 

All of that is genius. Where I'm concerned is the execution, seeing how all of this comes together. Will the CE1 stuff be really captivating products with great quality, design, and range? Or will they look like eggs on wheels and go 180 miles?

That's gonna be the deciding factor. You can't get so lost in innovation that you lose the customer.

 

Yeah, I hope they have enough range.

[akirby]

1 minute ago, rmc523 said:

I think it was originally supposed to spawn a Ford/Lincoln sedan too?

Don't think a sedan was planned but definitely a 2 row edge and Nautilus and possibly Mustang.

[twintornados]

7 minutes ago, rmc523 said:

..I think it was originally supposed to spawn a Ford/Lincoln sedan too?

 

Well, that did not happen....and it has been orphaned ever since. 

4 minutes ago, akirby said:

Don't think a sedan was planned but definitely a 2 row edge and Nautilus and possibly Mustang.

It was supposed to be an updated Taurus and Continental on CD6.....but, surprise surprise, Ford's plan changed. 

 

 

 

 

 

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Edited December 18, 2025 by twintornados

[rmc523]

11 minutes ago, akirby said:

Don't think a sedan was planned but definitely a 2 row edge and Nautilus and possibly Mustang.

 

I'm pretty sure I remember Fields wanting a Ford/Continental off of it.

 

Forgot about the Edge/Nautilus and of course Mustang.

[DeluxeStang]

1 hour ago, akirby said:

Don't think a sedan was planned but definitely a 2 row edge and Nautilus and possibly Mustang.

I heard rumors it was gonna underpin a proper RWD Continental and possibly a Ford sedan. If they can get enough weight out of it, I'd like to see it underpin the next mustang coupe and sedan. I feel like that would make more sense than doing an all new platform or trying to keep the same old platform going. 

[Biker16]

21 hours ago, akirby said:

Its not number of models per se but total vehicle volume.  CE1 has at least 4 models planned.  Also the cheaper you can make the platform the less you need to sell to amortize it.

At this point, why should we believe this will happen? 
 

19 hours ago, twintornados said:

 

cough-cough CD6 cough-cough

[akirby]

1 hour ago, Biker16 said:

At this point, why should we believe this will happen? 
 

Those other cd6 products were never announced to the public.  These have been and also to investors.  Could plans change?  Of course but they also need the volume to fill up Louisville.  And that market is virtually untapped for now.

[jpd80]

Well, they say that experience is what you get

when you expect something else…..

 

From what I see, Ford is about to try a plenty of something else…

my hope is that they find enough buyers to have some  success.

Edited December 19, 2025 by jpd80

[jpd80]

On 12/18/2025 at 12:31 PM, DeluxeStang said:

Yep, and that's why I'm concerned. A lot of this is good on paper, the new production system, skunkworks approach, relying on smaller, lighter vehicles than don't need massive batteries, hiring F1 aero people to have world class aero. 

 

All of that is genius. Where I'm concerned is the execution, seeing how all of this comes together. Will the CE1 stuff be really captivating products with great quality, design, and range? Or will they look like eggs on wheels and go 180 miles?

That's gonna be the deciding factor. You can't get so lost in innovation that you lose the customer.

CE1 pickup is in 2027, the next CE1s are now +2 years after that

so sounds like C2 hybrids will take priority 

[twintornados]

4 hours ago, jpd80 said:

CE1 pickup is in 2027, the next CE1s are now +2 years after that

so sounds like C2 hybrids will take priority 

 

Unless Ford updates CE1 and creates CH1 from it as a derivative model that can be built on the same line. On a personal note, I enjoy my C2 hybrid Maverick immensely.  

Edited December 21, 2025 by twintornados

[Trader 10]

4 hours ago, jpd80 said:

CE1 pickup is in 2027, the next CE1s are now +2 years after that

so sounds like C2 hybrids will take priority 

Mach E sales look like they will be collateral damage when the CE1 pickup comes out. 

[DeluxeStang]

4 hours ago, Trader 10 said:

Mach E sales look like they will be collateral damage when the CE1 pickup comes out. 

How so? I don't see a ton of overlap between an electric ute and a sporty crossover. They'll both be RWD, relatively fast EVs, and somewhat affordable, but those are some relatively basic similarities. 

 

The driving dynamics, design, interior layout, packaging, and size will all be completely different. I do hope we get a CE1 mach-e. 

[DeluxeStang]

9 hours ago, jpd80 said:

CE1 pickup is in 2027, the next CE1s are now +2 years after that

so sounds like C2 hybrids will take priority 

Which is a logical move. Are there any c2 products planned for the NA market that you know of beyond the maverick suv/van?

[ausrutherford]

In other EV news, Geely just had to bail out Polestar again: https://www.reuters.com/world/china/polestar-secures-600-million-loan-majority-owner-geely-holding-2025-12-16/

 

[Sherminator98]

18 hours ago, DeluxeStang said:

Which is a logical move. Are there any c2 products planned for the NA market that you know of beyond the maverick suv/van?

 

There is a rumor of a sister CUV to the Bronco Sport coming in 2029

[twintornados]

20 hours ago, DeluxeStang said:

Which is a logical move. Are there any c2 products planned for the NA market that you know of beyond the maverick suv/van?

 

2 hours ago, Sherminator98 said:

 

There is a rumor of a sister CUV to the Bronco Sport coming in 2029

 

If the rumored "Maverick based CUV" is indeed true, here is to hoping Ford names it Escape and continues the line....it's a "good" name without any negative impact....

[DeluxeStang]

2 hours ago, Sherminator98 said:

 

There is a rumor of a sister CUV to the Bronco Sport coming in 2029

Is this the maverick based suv or something else?

[Biker16]

1 minute ago, DeluxeStang said:

Is this the maverick based suv or something else?

 2029 is so far away.

[Biker16]

On 12/21/2025 at 3:46 AM, jpd80 said:

CE1 pickup is in 2027, the next CE1s are now +2 years after that

so sounds like C2 hybrids will take priority 

Let's talk about hybrids.

Ford has one hybrid powertrain for Transverse vehicles, at least in the US.

• HF35 eCVT -Introduced in 2013

FoE has two hybrid and one mild Hybrid Systems.  

 

Hybrid

• HF35 eCVT -Introduced in 2013
• Getrag 7HDT300-  7-speed dual-wet-clutch for hybrid Intrduced in 2020

Mild hybrid 

• Getrag 7DCT300-  7-speed dual-wet-clutch with 48V system introduced in 2020

I have concerns about the viability of expanding hybrid production, given the little investment in the technology. 

[akirby]

7 minutes ago, Biker16 said:

I have concerns about the viability of expanding hybrid production, given the little investment in the technology. 

They've been doing hybrids since 2005.  They've done fwd, rwd and awd hybrids.  Until recently they were making fwd hybrids, awd hybrids, fwd plug in hybrids and rwd hybrids.  What more investment do they need?

[Sherminator98]

2 hours ago, twintornados said:

 

 

If the rumored "Maverick based CUV" is indeed true, here is to hoping Ford names it Escape and continues the line....it's a "good" name without any negative impact....

 

1 hour ago, DeluxeStang said:

Is this the maverick based suv or something else?

 

Apparently but in the grand scheme of things the Escape/Bronco Sport and Maverick aren't all that different from one another either, outside of sheet metal and some touch surfaces. 

 

This rumor was before all the changes happened, so who knows what is going on. 

[Sherminator98]

1 hour ago, Biker16 said:

 2029 is so far away.

 

But yet your still here....

[Biker16]

1 hour ago, akirby said:

They've been doing hybrids since 2005.  They've done fwd, rwd and awd hybrids.  Until recently they were making fwd hybrids, awd hybrids, fwd plug in hybrids and rwd hybrids.  What more investment do they need?

 

Toyota's like on their 7th generation of hybrid technology. They've invested enough in hybrid technology to make their entire lineup. Hybrids. I don't see Ford investing the capital required to make hybrid drive systems universal throughout their lineup. 

 

That goes beyond how long you've been selling them and directly to where you are spending money to build and sell more hybrid vehicles. I don't see it. If you do, please let me know

[twintornados]

3 minutes ago, Sherminator98 said:

Apparently but in the grand scheme of things the Escape/Bronco Sport and Maverick aren't all that different from one another either, outside of sheet metal and some touch surfaces. 

 

This rumor was before all the changes happened, so who knows what is going on. 

 

Ehh, we'll wait a week or two...plans should change by then.