fuzzymoomoo Posted September 18 Share Posted September 18 4 hours ago, fuzzymoomoo said: Got some feelers out to see if there’s any rumors. not even a whisper of a rumor. Probably forget about anything new for Flat Rock for now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted September 18 Share Posted September 18 5 hours ago, rmc523 said: Have you been in a Mustang? it’s 2 inches wider than the MKZ and they can stretch the wheelbase as much as necessary. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted September 18 Share Posted September 18 4 hours ago, DeluxeStang said: What's wrong with doing a new Continental? They could charge significantly more for a Continental over a zephyr. Because larger cars are in even less demand than midsized cars and those sketches are terrible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bzcat Posted September 18 Share Posted September 18 4 hours ago, sullynd said: Lincoln version of the Everest? Will it be nice enough to interest the kind of buyers that are currently buying Rivian R1 or Land Rover Defender? Everest itself would be a good 4Runner competitor though. 3 hours ago, Sherminator98 said: How about this-why not the Chinese Bronco EV/EREV reskinned as a Lincoln? The only problem is where do you build it, so I don't think that will happen, unless that product gets moved into another plant in North America. That's the problem... Ford's production planning is totally disjointed so they cannot shift products around the world easily like Toyota. The Chinese Bronco EREV is similar to what I had in mind for Lincoln but more lux inside. Like it should rival G-Wagen for the material and color selections but obviously at a more reasonable price point (like $60-100K range). Very few brands can pull off the authentic luxury offroader niche... Lincoln being Ford adjacent can do it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted September 18 Share Posted September 18 Lincoln Z? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeluxeStang Posted September 19 Share Posted September 19 2 hours ago, akirby said: Because larger cars are in even less demand than midsized cars and those sketches are terrible. True, sales volume would be lower, but it would command a higher price than something like a zephyr. If they're able to repurpose a lot of the components of a mustang sedan for a new Continental, it would keep development costs down. It wouldn't move in high sales volumes, but it could still generate a decent profit, while offering a product that boosts Lincoln's reputation in the luxury market. I just feel like if you're gonna make a mustang sedan, and come to the conclusion that you want to bring back a Lincoln sedan, offering a proper high end RWD product isn't the worst idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dequindre Posted September 19 Share Posted September 19 The Lincoln Zephyr/Z would be a welcome addition to the lineup. It's a decently sized mid-size, so it will straddle two segments and accommodate many buyers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-dubz Posted September 19 Share Posted September 19 Zephyr is cool, but I don’t think this vehicle will be a sedan. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpiritualGuy62 Posted September 19 Share Posted September 19 Ford and Lincoln, please don't consider using an old, tired, "retread" name such as "Zephyr" for a potential new and exciting sedan vehicle such as what is being discussed here. I would think, that with the myriad of the words in the English language, they can do much better than "Zephyr." "Zephyr" rhymes with "heifer." 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted September 19 Share Posted September 19 3 hours ago, DeluxeStang said: True, sales volume would be lower, but it would command a higher price than something like a zephyr. If they're able to repurpose a lot of the components of a mustang sedan for a new Continental, it would keep development costs down. It wouldn't move in high sales volumes, but it could still generate a decent profit, while offering a product that boosts Lincoln's reputation in the luxury market. I just feel like if you're gonna make a mustang sedan, and come to the conclusion that you want to bring back a Lincoln sedan, offering a proper high end RWD product isn't the worst idea. Midsized is far better for a performance sedan. Think BMW M5 vs a 750i. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeluxeStang Posted September 19 Share Posted September 19 7 minutes ago, akirby said: Midsized is far better for a performance sedan. Think BMW M5 vs a 750i. I agree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mackinaw Posted September 19 Share Posted September 19 1 hour ago, SpiritualGuy62 said: Ford and Lincoln, please don't consider using an old, tired, "retread" name such as "Zephyr" for a potential new and exciting sedan vehicle such as what is being discussed here. I would think, that with the myriad of the words in the English language, they can do much better than "Zephyr." "Zephyr" rhymes with "heifer." The first Lincoln Zephyr was introduced 89 years ago. Heritage and legacy mean something. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbone Posted September 19 Share Posted September 19 (edited) 13 hours ago, bzcat said: I would do a Bronco based Lincoln with fixed roof and full lux interior. Like the Navigator but smaller, full BOF and 4x4 capability. Comparable size to Lexus GX, Land Rover Defender, and Mercedes G Wagen. It will print money. This is my vote if there is only one new model. Disappointing there is only one since they have platforms to work with. Seemed like a no brainer to do a Mach E based model. I’m preparing to be underwhelmed, but I’m hoping to be pleasantly surprised. I’m resurrecting this photo because I like the vibe of it. Edited September 19 by tbone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sullynd Posted September 19 Share Posted September 19 13 hours ago, bzcat said: Will it be nice enough to interest the kind of buyers that are currently buying Rivian R1 or Land Rover Defender? Everest itself would be a good 4Runner competitor though. If Everest would be a legitimate 4Runner/Landcruiser competitor then a Lincoln version would be a legitimate GX competitor. A four door Mustang would be cool. A Lincoln version would also be cool. It would sell in MkT numbers, and wouldn’t compete well with, for example, the CT5-Blackwing. That thing is a beast, but I have no idea how GM justifies it. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twintornados Posted September 19 Share Posted September 19 (edited) AI generated Lincoln EV ....call it Lincoln Futura.... Or, this one.... Edited September 19 by twintornados Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motorpsychology Posted September 19 Share Posted September 19 (edited) 11 hours ago, SpiritualGuy62 said: Ford and Lincoln, please don't consider using an old, tired, "retread" name such as "Zephyr" for a potential new and exciting sedan vehicle such as what is being discussed here. I would think, that with the myriad of the words in the English language, they can do much better than "Zephyr." "Zephyr" rhymes with "heifer." Few except for entymology geeks know what zephyr means: zephyr | ˈzefər | noun 1 literary a soft, gentle breeze: "sweet zephyrs just stirred the woods with their breath." • (Zephyr) a personification of the west wind. Loosely fits with Lincoln's "Quiet Flight" mantra, but the name got tarnished when Mercury slapped it on the Fairmont clone; no going back. Lincoln tried it again on the CD-3 variant for a couple years before going with MK-Z. Ford, and domestic carmakers in general, have tarnished originally cool car names by recycling them or shifting them to a completely wrong car; think Cougar,Thunderbird, Capri, the aforementioned Zephyr, or even to different company e.g. Edsel and Chevrolet Citation Edited September 19 by Motorpsychology coreck speling 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTL2017 Posted September 19 Share Posted September 19 I’m still suprised Lincoln never got a version of the Mach-E. Was ford concerned with demand or potential pricing? Most Ford products should have a Lincoln imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeluxeStang Posted September 19 Share Posted September 19 3 hours ago, twintornados said: AI generated Lincoln EV ....call it Lincoln Futura.... Or, this one.... IDK man, I'm not feeling either of these. The issue with AI is it's pretty terrible at creating a new design language or even going off the latest design language. I've tried to create futuristic mustang renderings and it just spits tweaked s550s at me. Both of these renderings are working with outdated design language from like 2018. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmc523 Posted September 19 Author Share Posted September 19 23 hours ago, CurtisH said: A 4 door Mustang should have a longer wheelbase. That would help with the interior space. yes a wheelbase extension is a given. My point was jus that they need to make sure that they stretch it enough to give the back seat plenty of room. 4 hours ago, twintornados said: AI generated Lincoln EV ....call it Lincoln Futura.... Or, this one.... Those both look terrible, imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sullynd Posted September 19 Share Posted September 19 7 hours ago, sullynd said: If Everest would be a legitimate 4Runner/Landcruiser competitor then a Lincoln version would be a legitimate GX competitor. A four door Mustang would be cool. A Lincoln version would also be cool. It would sell in MkT numbers, and wouldn’t compete well with, for example, the CT5-Blackwing. That thing is a beast, but I have no idea how GM justifies it. I did these a while ago with ChatGPT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted September 19 Share Posted September 19 (edited) Already being produced in China and Lincoln’s sales don’t have to support a North American plant Edited September 19 by jpd80 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ausrutherford Posted September 19 Share Posted September 19 1 hour ago, jpd80 said: Already being produced in China and Lincoln’s sales don’t have to support a North American plant You just have to worry about importing from a geopolitical rival... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted September 19 Share Posted September 19 3 minutes ago, ausrutherford said: You just have to worry about importing from a geopolitical rival... Flat Rock…….. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzymoomoo Posted September 20 Share Posted September 20 58 minutes ago, akirby said: Flat Rock…….. Nope Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmc523 Posted September 20 Author Share Posted September 20 3 hours ago, jpd80 said: Already being produced in China and Lincoln’s sales don’t have to support a North American plant I’ve long said importing would be the easiest but that was before the whole tariff situation. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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