Sherminator98 Posted October 31, 2025 Share Posted October 31, 2025 https://insideevs.com/news/777407/scout-motors-erev-reservastions/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmc523 Posted October 31, 2025 Share Posted October 31, 2025 I like how the Scouts look. It's not surprising that more are going for the EREV version, considering how EV sales are - people are more comfortable with having familiar powertrain as a "backup". What I found interesting was this note? The naturally-aspirated four-cylinder lump, which will be placed behind the rear axle, will increase the total range to 500 miles by burning fuel. How does that packaging make sense? How does that not interfere with bed or interior packaging on the truck and SUV? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherminator98 Posted October 31, 2025 Author Share Posted October 31, 2025 31 minutes ago, rmc523 said: What I found interesting was this note? The naturally-aspirated four-cylinder lump, which will be placed behind the rear axle, will increase the total range to 500 miles by burning fuel. How does that packaging make sense? How does that not interfere with bed or interior packaging on the truck and SUV? https://insideevs.com/news/738757/scout-range-extender-gas-option/ Ford's 1.5L 3 Ecoboost in relation I'm guessing that an ICE in a EREV configuration won't need as many accessories attached to it to help make it smaller Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fordmantpw Posted October 31, 2025 Share Posted October 31, 2025 Having it in the rear makes building the crash structure so much easier. You don't have to accommodate the engine, and you don't have to have two different designs...one with and one without the engine. I would expect it's going to be a rather small engine. I really like the Scout! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmc523 Posted October 31, 2025 Share Posted October 31, 2025 5 minutes ago, Sherminator98 said: https://insideevs.com/news/738757/scout-range-extender-gas-option/ Ford's 1.5L 3 Ecoboost in relation I'm guessing that an ICE in a EREV configuration won't need as many accessories attached to it to help make it smaller Interesting - I don't remember seeing that before. So I'd assume the SUV will have an accessible panel for maintenance of the ICE? Seems like it'd be more of an issue for cabin smells and NVH issues? Also, I guess there's no spare? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick73 Posted October 31, 2025 Share Posted October 31, 2025 1 hour ago, rmc523 said: I like how the Scouts look. It's not surprising that more are going for the EREV version, considering how EV sales are - people are more comfortable with having familiar powertrain as a "backup". What I found interesting was this note? The naturally-aspirated four-cylinder lump, which will be placed behind the rear axle, will increase the total range to 500 miles by burning fuel. How does that packaging make sense? How does that not interfere with bed or interior packaging on the truck and SUV? Rear engine must be a German preference, especially for VW. 😀 It makes sense to me that if engine is not connected to wheels directly, and only to generator, that placing at rear eliminates issue of running exhaust under vehicle where batteries are located. Not only ground clearance but heat could make exhaust an issue. Rear engine likely requires cooling system to be more involved but I think that’s probably more manageable. As a side note, the BMW electric vehicle with range extender also had engine in rear IIRC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick73 Posted October 31, 2025 Share Posted October 31, 2025 43 minutes ago, rmc523 said: Also, I guess there's no spare? Drawing shows off tailgate, and likely optional. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmc523 Posted October 31, 2025 Share Posted October 31, 2025 1 hour ago, Rick73 said: Drawing shows off tailgate, and likely optional. Not sure where the truck would put it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted October 31, 2025 Share Posted October 31, 2025 A Porsche flat 4 would fit nicely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fordmantpw Posted October 31, 2025 Share Posted October 31, 2025 25 minutes ago, akirby said: A Porsche flat 4 would fit nicely. That would be a waste of a sweet engine. I don't think an EREV needs anything that exotic. Needs to be better than a noisy old Briggs & Stratton, but not quite up to Porsche qualities. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted October 31, 2025 Share Posted October 31, 2025 58 minutes ago, fordmantpw said: That would be a waste of a sweet engine. I don't think an EREV needs anything that exotic. Needs to be better than a noisy old Briggs & Stratton, but not quite up to Porsche qualities. I was thinking more the flat 4 design not necessarily an actual Porsche engine. Doesn’t Subaru use flat 4s also? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NLPRacing Posted October 31, 2025 Share Posted October 31, 2025 (edited) I think this is the unit they are looking at using for the EREV: https://www.mahle-powertrain.com/en/experience/mahle-compact-range-extender-engine/ It can be mounted vertically or horizontally. Horizontally between frame rails in a pickup make a lot of sense. Edited October 31, 2025 by NLPRacing 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fordmantpw Posted October 31, 2025 Share Posted October 31, 2025 2 hours ago, akirby said: I was thinking more the flat 4 design not necessarily an actual Porsche engine. Doesn’t Subaru use flat 4s also? Gotcha. I think they do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mackinaw Posted October 31, 2025 Share Posted October 31, 2025 2 hours ago, akirby said: I was thinking more the flat 4 design not necessarily an actual Porsche engine. Doesn’t Subaru use flat 4s also? Yes they do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick73 Posted October 31, 2025 Share Posted October 31, 2025 A Boxer 4 would be cool, but expect they will use an inline-4 even if laying on its side (horizontal cylinders) to keep height down. With expected DOHC design and variable valve timing, an inline engine should cost considerably less due to fewer parts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmc523 Posted February 18 Share Posted February 18 Scout’s Launch Reportedly Pushed Back As Questions Grow | Carscoops Volkswagen is spending billions on Scout’s rebirth, but things might not be going according to plan. Quite the opposite as a new report out of Germany claims the company is postponing the launch by a year. A report from Spiegel attributes the delay on “technical problems,” although specifics are hazy and said to include a financial component. However, in a statement to The Drive, a spokesperson said “Scout Motors has not shared any timing or product update announcements.” Scout Motors Fires Back At Report Claiming Production Delay Separately, Jamie Vondruska, responsible for building the Scout Motors community, posted a formal response on the company’s dedicated forums. While production challenges haven’t been ruled out, the VW Group’s newest brand says it is making “good progress” on vehicle development, construction of the South Carolina factory, and the creation of its supplier network. 'We are still moving full steam ahead, bringing Scout back to market. Everything is moving forward and making good progress. Much like the guy who is balancing spinning plates on sticks and running back and forth to keep them spinning to prevent them from falling, we are juggling a lot at once. New factory. New suppliers. Two completely new vehicles. Could there be potential delays? Of course. But I will let you all know as quickly as I can if there are any official changes or major announcements.' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fordmantpw Posted February 18 Share Posted February 18 Not a shocker if it is delayed. I really like the Scout, but I've felt all along that it's not going to make the sell by date and will be later to the party than expected. Too much at once. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherminator98 Posted February 18 Author Share Posted February 18 VW is pulling a Bronco LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texasota Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 Additional information in this article about technical problems with the SCOUT EREV: https://www.motortrend.com/news/scout-brand-relaunch-reportedly-delayed-one-year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markfnc Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 I like this Scout, mostly stock, not all jacked up with huge tires. Red on Red was a dealer promotion for show rooms 1973 International Harvester Scout II 345 4x4 for sale on BaT Auctions - sold for $41,973 on February 12, 2026 (Lot #229,794) | Bring a Trailer 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmc523 Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 (edited) WTF??? The Der Spiegel report goes on to say development has also been delayed by the Terra and Traveler’s unusual layout. As they were originally designed to be EVs only, no consideration was given as to fitting a gasoline engine. Adding one to the plan later required some creative engineering, with Scout engineers placing the four-cylinder engine on its side under the rear cargo area or truck bed, behind the rear axle. It’s not just the engine itself, either, as engineers also had to find space for the engine’s cooling system, exhaust, and fuel tank. So they're not just putting the engine in the regular spot?? Instead under the bed/suv cargo area? That's nuts. Whoops, I guess I notice this note before in the thread (this thing is old lol).....still think it's a crazy idea. No wonder they're having issues with it. Edited February 24 by rmc523 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fordmantpw Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 29 minutes ago, rmc523 said: WTF??? The Der Spiegel report goes on to say development has also been delayed by the Terra and Traveler’s unusual layout. As they were originally designed to be EVs only, no consideration was given as to fitting a gasoline engine. Adding one to the plan later required some creative engineering, with Scout engineers placing the four-cylinder engine on its side under the rear cargo area or truck bed, behind the rear axle. It’s not just the engine itself, either, as engineers also had to find space for the engine’s cooling system, exhaust, and fuel tank. So they're not just putting the engine in the regular spot?? Instead under the bed/suv cargo area? That's nuts. Whoops, I guess I notice this note before in the thread (this thing is old lol).....still think it's a crazy idea. No wonder they're having issues with it. If you put it in the front, it adds a lot of complexities for the crash structure. You have to handle with and without the engine. Putting in the back simplifies that tremendously, as you only have to handle one scenario. Apparently, it adds other complexities though, too. lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texasota Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 Changing the oil on an engine under the bed would be loads of fun. Not to mention other routine maintenance. Doesn't bode well for traversing shallow water either. This sounds like a terrible design. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 36 minutes ago, Texasota said: Changing the oil on an engine under the bed would be loads of fun. Not to mention other routine maintenance. Doesn't bode well for traversing shallow water either. This sounds like a terrible design. Draining should actually be easier with less stuff in the way, but checking and filling fluids seems like a nightmare. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 1 hour ago, fordmantpw said: If you put it in the front, it adds a lot of complexities for the crash structure. You have to handle with and without the engine. Putting in the back simplifies that tremendously, as you only have to handle one scenario. Apparently, it adds other complexities though, too. lol Rear engines are silly. Nobody would buy those. 😎 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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