rmc523 Posted October 31 Share Posted October 31 Ram’s First-Ever SUV Is Coming — a Three-Row Family Hauler Due in 2028 - Autoblog Ram Wants To Build an SUV, Believe It or Not Ram's Ford Expedition Rival On Track For 2028 Debut Automotive News reports that Antonio Filosa, the CEO of Stellantis, told Wall Street analysts that the automaker will soon bring an SUV to market. The on-sale date is targeted for 2028. It will arrive with a choice between a standard gas or a range-extended hybrid setup. Given that Dodge has a new Durango planned for 2029, we wouldn't be shocked to see these two SUVs share the same platform. -- So it'll be a Ram SUV, not a Dodge one. But Dodge also has a new Durango coming. My guess is they'll make the Durango more sporty, allowing the Ram model to be a Wagoneer twin with more trucky styling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherminator98 Posted Sunday at 03:22 AM Share Posted Sunday at 03:22 AM Going by that teaser photo, I'm guessing its a new grill and bumper to make it look more like a Ram vs a Jeep... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twintornados Posted Sunday at 12:10 PM Share Posted Sunday at 12:10 PM 8 hours ago, Sherminator98 said: Going by that teaser photo, I'm guessing its a new grill and bumper to make it look more like a Ram vs a Jeep... ...or a Dodge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick73 Posted Sunday at 12:15 PM Share Posted Sunday at 12:15 PM It’s such a crowded space already that it makes me wonder if they will follow through. https://www.caranddriver.com/rankings/best-suvs/3-row Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherminator98 Posted Sunday at 12:17 PM Share Posted Sunday at 12:17 PM 1 minute ago, Rick73 said: It’s such a crowded space already that it makes me wonder if they will follow through. https://www.caranddriver.com/rankings/best-suvs/3-row Its going to be Ram version of the Wagoneer...not midsize SUV 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick73 Posted Sunday at 04:08 PM Share Posted Sunday at 04:08 PM 3 hours ago, Sherminator98 said: Its going to be Ram version of the Wagoneer...not midsize SUV Interesting. Your post was so out of context that it made little sense due to midsize reference, so made me curious. Tried opening link and it took me to a different page than what I copied. I’ll see if I can find later, if for no other reason than to learn how things can go wrong. 😑 Anyway, the page I had been reading showed 3-row SUVs in different sizes, prices, and with different powertrain types. The recap that opens now is a fraction of entire list which was extensive. I suppose if Stellantis doesn’t have to invest much to create this new RAM SUV there isn’t much downside or risk, but I can’t see them selling that many given vast competition including from their own brands. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherminator98 Posted Monday at 12:59 PM Share Posted Monday at 12:59 PM 20 hours ago, Rick73 said: Interesting. Your post was so out of context that it made little sense due to midsize reference, so made me curious. Tried opening link and it took me to a different page than what I copied. I’ll see if I can find later, if for no other reason than to learn how things can go wrong. 😑 Anyway, the page I had been reading showed 3-row SUVs in different sizes, prices, and with different powertrain types. The recap that opens now is a fraction of entire list which was extensive. I suppose if Stellantis doesn’t have to invest much to create this new RAM SUV there isn’t much downside or risk, but I can’t see them selling that many given vast competition including from their own brands. No, your post made no sense. This Ram SUV is going to be based off the Grand Wagoneer (or whatever they are calling it today)-a large SUV, where there isn't as much competition and a bigger profit margin. Comparing a large 3 row BOF SUV to a three row RAV4 is pretty disingenuous Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick73 Posted Monday at 02:00 PM Share Posted Monday at 02:00 PM 56 minutes ago, Sherminator98 said: No, your post made no sense. This Ram SUV is going to be based off the Grand Wagoneer (or whatever they are calling it today)-a large SUV, where there isn't as much competition and a bigger profit margin. Comparing a large 3 row BOF SUV to a three row RAV4 is pretty disingenuous The article I tried to link, which you obviously did not see, DID NOT compare it to RAV4 or other smaller SUV. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmc523 Posted Monday at 02:17 PM Author Share Posted Monday at 02:17 PM 22 hours ago, Rick73 said: Interesting. Your post was so out of context that it made little sense due to midsize reference, so made me curious. Tried opening link and it took me to a different page than what I copied. I’ll see if I can find later, if for no other reason than to learn how things can go wrong. 😑 Anyway, the page I had been reading showed 3-row SUVs in different sizes, prices, and with different powertrain types. The recap that opens now is a fraction of entire list which was extensive. I suppose if Stellantis doesn’t have to invest much to create this new RAM SUV there isn’t much downside or risk, but I can’t see them selling that many given vast competition including from their own brands. His comparison was to the Jeep Wagoneer. Just like the articles in the original post said. Your article shows Explorer-sized 3-rows at best. Creating this Ram product on the Wagoneer allows them to spread out costs for that product, so it makes sense as an "easy" added product. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fordmantpw Posted Monday at 02:30 PM Share Posted Monday at 02:30 PM 1 hour ago, Sherminator98 said: No, your post made no sense. This Ram SUV is going to be based off the Grand Wagoneer (or whatever they are calling it today)-a large SUV, where there isn't as much competition and a bigger profit margin. Comparing a large 3 row BOF SUV to a three row RAV4 is pretty disingenuous 11 minutes ago, rmc523 said: His comparison was to the Jeep Wagoneer. Just like the articles in the original post said. Your article shows Explorer-sized 3-rows at best. Creating this Ram product on the Wagoneer allows them to spread out costs for that product, so it makes sense as an "easy" added product. Come on guys, pay attention. The link he posted doesn't match the article he was trying to link to. It got messed up somehow. He knows, it was a mixup somehow. He explained it here: 22 hours ago, Rick73 said: Interesting. Your post was so out of context that it made little sense due to midsize reference, so made me curious. Tried opening link and it took me to a different page than what I copied. I’ll see if I can find later, if for no other reason than to learn how things can go wrong. 😑 Anyway, the page I had been reading showed 3-row SUVs in different sizes, prices, and with different powertrain types. The recap that opens now is a fraction of entire list which was extensive. I suppose if Stellantis doesn’t have to invest much to create this new RAM SUV there isn’t much downside or risk, but I can’t see them selling that many given vast competition including from their own brands. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick73 Posted Monday at 02:40 PM Share Posted Monday at 02:40 PM 5 minutes ago, fordmantpw said: Come on guys, pay attention. The link he posted doesn't match the article he was trying to link to. It got messed up somehow. He knows, it was a mixup somehow. He explained it here: Thank you. Great to see some people take time to read. 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmc523 Posted Monday at 05:53 PM Author Share Posted Monday at 05:53 PM 3 hours ago, fordmantpw said: Come on guys, pay attention. The link he posted doesn't match the article he was trying to link to. It got messed up somehow. He knows, it was a mixup somehow. He explained it here: I saw the explanation he posted. The non-luxury full size SUV market is these: Chevy Tahoe/Suburban Ford Expedition Toyota Sequoia Nissan Armada I feel customers of these types of models are usually looking for these models, and don't necessarily look at the broader 3-row market of smaller sizes, which the list included. There's no laundry list for these models, that's the market that Ram is trying to jump into. Meanwhile, bringing this online allows the Grand Wagoneer to compete in the luxury large SUV market without having to reach downward: Grand Wagoneer Cadillac Escalade Lincoln Navigator Infiniti QX80 Lexus LX570 BMW X7 Mercedes GLS Audi Q7 (which is borderline, and why they're coming out with a Q9) And even this list is generous because the first 3-4 are very different from the rest. Durango will better compete with the Explorer/Telluride/Traverse crowd that was brought up in the article. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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