DeluxeStang Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 https://www.motortrend.com/news/ford-plans-to-build-the-worlds-cheapest-ev-motors-for-its-30k-electric-truck I hope they find to ensure the quality is also world class. If it is, this info along with the article on the new computing hardware this thing is gonna have paints an incredibly impressive picture. Ford could genuinely become the leader in the affordable EV world if they're able to pull all of this off. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texasota Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 1 hour ago, DeluxeStang said: If it is, this info along with the article on the new computing hardware this thing is gonna have paints an incredibly impressive picture. Ford could genuinely become the leader in the affordable EV world if they're able to pull all of this off. Yes, this approach would allow a multitude of independent hardware/software modules to be eliminated. Ford would be able to own/control the software previously supplied by all the various suppliers. This should significantly reduce manufacturing costs and also enable expanded OTA updates thus reducing the costs associated with recalls for software updates. A year ago my Escape had to go to the dealer for a software update to eliminate a 12 volt battery drain. I see lots of good coming out of this. The only downside I see with it is that your car is totally dead on the side of the road if this powerful central module fails. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
morgan20 Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 3 hours ago, DeluxeStang said: I hope they find to ensure the quality is also world class. If it is, this info along with the article on the new computing hardware this thing is gonna have paints an incredibly impressive picture. Ford could genuinely become the leader in the affordable EV world if they're able to pull all of this off. Amen my friend! As I mentioned a couple months ago, wouldn't it be somethin' if in a few years the brand that's best known for bringing EV to the masses is Ford? Not Tesla, not GM, not BYD? And by the same token, wouldn't it be incredibly destructive to Ford's future (and incredibly sad) if this so called "Model T moment" fails? At this point, the big shots at Ford that manage CE1 products and all of the components and production processes for Universal Electric Platform and Universal Electric Production System must embrace the philosophy of NASA Mission Control from the Apollo 13 era, which Gene Kranz made famous: 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7Mary3 Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 What, Ford gave up on making low cost batteries? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
morgan20 Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 56 minutes ago, 7Mary3 said: What, Ford gave up on making low cost batteries? Nah, I don't think so. Ford is hiring for its BlueOval Battery Park Michigan plant, which will produce low (or lower) cost LFP batteries. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
morgan20 Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 A lot of the Ford lifers and other "average" employees are profoundly unproductive given the skunkworks newbies produce 20 times more per capita! ...a team of roughly 500 employees, most of whom work out of a secretive office in Long Beach, California, geographically and organizationally removed from Ford’s Michigan operations. Field stressed the importance of identifying and attracting 20x contributors—individuals who produce 20 times more than an average employee—with many engineers hired from California tech companies such as Tesla, Rivian, and Apple, among others. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmc523 Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 I think we knew these details, but worth pointing out again... While it will be sold in a single four-door crew cab body style, Field told MT that the truck will be offered with both rear-wheel drive and a two-motor, all-wheel-drive powertrain at launch. Rear-drive models will use a permanent-magnet motor, while dual-motor trucks will add an induction motor at the front axle, just like the Tesla Model 3, which was developed under Field’s leadership. The Ford exec also told MotorTrend that the midsize electric pickup will be available with more than one battery pack, allowing buyers to choose between a lower price or longer range. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherminator98 Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 1 minute ago, rmc523 said: I think we knew these details, but worth pointing out again... While it will be sold in a single four-door crew cab body style, Field told MT that the truck will be offered with both rear-wheel drive and a two-motor, all-wheel-drive powertrain at launch. Rear-drive models will use a permanent-magnet motor, while dual-motor trucks will add an induction motor at the front axle, just like the Tesla Model 3, which was developed under Field’s leadership. The Ford exec also told MotorTrend that the midsize electric pickup will be available with more than one battery pack, allowing buyers to choose between a lower price or longer range. I'm curious as to how much of a price difference there will be between the two batteries Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motorpsychology Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 2 minutes ago, Sherminator98 said: I'm curious as to how much of a price difference there will be between the two batteries The net may not be too significant, but as is the practice with the competition, the higher capacity battery pack may only be available in a higher trim, or in combination with other options, inflating the cost. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeluxeStang Posted January 9 Author Share Posted January 9 27 minutes ago, Sherminator98 said: I'm curious as to how much of a price difference there will be between the two batteries My guess is maybe 3-5k. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeluxeStang Posted January 9 Author Share Posted January 9 11 hours ago, morgan20 said: Amen my friend! As I mentioned a couple months ago, wouldn't it be somethin' if in a few years the brand that's best known for bringing EV to the masses is Ford? Not Tesla, not GM, not BYD? And by the same token, wouldn't it be incredibly destructive to Ford's future (and incredibly sad) if this so called "Model T moment" fails? At this point, the big shots at Ford that manage CE1 products and all of the components and production processes for Universal Electric Platform and Universal Electric Production System must embrace the philosophy of NASA Mission Control from the Apollo 13 era, which Gene Kranz made famous: I'm seeing a lot of the same mentality driving this team as we saw with things like the original mustang, Tarus, or gt40. That spirit of "We're gonna win, and we're gonna do whatever it takes" which is a solid hell yeah moment for me. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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