jpd80 Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 (edited) 3 hours ago, rmc523 said: Why not offer an Expedition Raptor instead? Because that would directly compete with F150 Raptor? Not sure what they will go with but it’s stirring up a bit of interest…. Edited January 28 by jpd80 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmc523 Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 15 minutes ago, jpd80 said: Because that would directly compete with F150 Raptor? Not sure what they will go with but it’s stirring up a bit of interest…. How so? F-150 doesn't have a 3rd row/isn't an SUV. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twintornados Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 3 hours ago, rmc523 said: Why not offer a Expedition Raptor instead? I think Expedition Tremor is as far as Ford is willing to take it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 1 hour ago, rmc523 said: How so? F-150 doesn't have a 3rd row/isn't an SUV. You’re looking at the difference, not the thing that makes the Raptors the same, the engine and that’s where those Raptor sales would bleed to a Raptor Expedition. Just a theory but supported by Ford not building Raptor Expedition- not even a discussion about that option. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 2 hours ago, twintornados said: I think Expedition Tremor is as far as Ford is willing to take it. Same thing with Everest, they were heading down the path of amortising T6 Raptor modules across three vehicles and then held back on Raptor- I think the decider was overwhelming preference for V6 diesel in Aussie market. Sorry, went down the rabbit hole…. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twintornados Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 14 hours ago, jpd80 said: Same thing with Everest, they were heading down the path of amortising T6 Raptor modules across three vehicles and then held back on Raptor- I think the decider was overwhelming preference for V6 diesel in Aussie market. Sorry, went down the rabbit hole…. Its because Australia never had to deal with the "great diesel destruction era" of the late 70's early 80's time of the GM 5.7L Oldsmobile V8 gas motor that was (poorly) converted to a diesel...that was a defining moment for diesel power in the USA. It never recovered. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherminator98 Posted January 29 Author Share Posted January 29 8 hours ago, twintornados said: Its because Australia never had to deal with the "great diesel destruction era" of the late 70's early 80's time of the GM 5.7L Oldsmobile V8 gas motor that was (poorly) converted to a diesel...that was a defining moment for diesel power in the USA. It never recovered. But did it ever take off? There was other products out there that used BMW Diesel engines (Mark VII and I want to say the 80' Escort?) I think it died because Gas prices crashed down by 1986. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mackinaw Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 23 minutes ago, Sherminator98 said: But did it ever take off? There was other products out there that used BMW Diesel engines (Mark VII and I want to say the 80' Escort?) I think it died because Gas prices crashed down by 1986. Don't forget the '83-'86 Ranger. Offered a Perkins and Mitsubishi diesel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-dubz Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 https://www.motor1.com/news/785857/hyundai-santa-cruz-dead/ And now the compact truck segment is down to 1. Santa Cruz is dead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 18 hours ago, twintornados said: Its because Australia never had to deal with the "great diesel destruction era" of the late 70's early 80's time of the GM 5.7L Oldsmobile V8 gas motor that was (poorly) converted to a diesel...that was a defining moment for diesel power in the USA. It never recovered. Our fuel is a lot more expensive, diesel used to be much cheaper than petrol but once everyone switched with diesel pickups and utilities, the oil companies started raising prices to protect their lost profits form the petrol side.. While they are fuel efficient, the modern diesels don’t like lots of short trips as it clogs up the converters when they can’t regen but pretty sure many of you in North America know all about that added pain…. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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