morgan20 Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 4 minutes ago, akirby said: do something and follow it through. Is your glass half full this mornin'? 😄 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmc523 Posted February 4 Author Share Posted February 4 11 hours ago, Bob Rosadini said: Well again, my contention is most class 7 and lower sales are to the people you describe-small business trade people/contractors. Do the Verizons, Comcasts, (7M3's employer) of the world place large orders for class 4/5 trucks? Yes but I'm talking about the thousands of businesses in this country that buy these lower classes in support of their business. I have to say, the only large fleet orders I see for class 6 and 7 Fords are UPS and Enterprise Rentals. I really don't understand what you're arguing? 23 minutes ago, akirby said: I don't care what they do at this point as long as they do something and follow it through. Cuts to them canceling this plan in a few weeks.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 50 minutes ago, morgan20 said: Is your glass half full this mornin'? 😄 I'm a dreamer and it's my birthday...... 😂 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 32 minutes ago, rmc523 said: I really don't understand what you're arguing? He doesn't think Ford is a real commercial vehicle company because they don't sell class 8 trucks and all they seem to advertise on TV are Transit vans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
morgan20 Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 1 minute ago, akirby said: I'm a dreamer and it's my birthday...... 😂 Happy Birthday, wishing you many happy returns in all respects, not just stuff related to FoMoCo! 🎂 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmc523 Posted February 4 Author Share Posted February 4 5 minutes ago, akirby said: He doesn't think Ford is a real commercial vehicle company because they don't sell class 8 trucks and all they seem to advertise on TV are Transit vans. Let me rephrase....I know what he said......I don't get the point lol. Doesn't make any sense Any actual fleet person would know the players out there, and wouldn't see an ad on TV for a F-750 and be like "why didn't I think of that!?!" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 4 minutes ago, rmc523 said: Let me rephrase....I know what he said......I don't get the point lol. Doesn't make any sense Any actual fleet person would know the players out there, and wouldn't see an ad on TV for a F-750 and be like "why didn't I think of that!?!" My point exactly. If you're buying a work vehicle you're going to research payload, towing, maintenance, 3rd party fitments and price. And who doesn't already know what is offered in that space? Almost everybody eats Chinese but I have never seen a tv ad for a chinese restaurant. Advertising is overrated outside of new vehicle intros and major sales. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fordmantpw Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 32 minutes ago, akirby said: I'm a dreamer and it's my birthday...... 😂 Happy Birthday! Hope it's a great one! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twintornados Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 So, question is, does Ford Energy stand on its own or is it under Ford Model e? Oh, and Happy birthday @akirby .....enjoy!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmc523 Posted February 4 Author Share Posted February 4 5 minutes ago, twintornados said: So, question is, does Ford Energy stand on its own or is it under Ford Model e? Oh, and Happy birthday @akirby .....enjoy!! It's sounding like its own entity I think? They're calling it a subsidiary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texasota Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 (edited) 10 hours ago, jpd80 said: I keep wondering what could possibly go wrong with this plan…….. Recall on 500 massive battery banks? That is my concern too. The Escape PHEV has had multiple problems with the battery packs. Ford is likely concerned about this also and that is probably why Ford Energy is going to be its own entity. Happy Birthday @akirby! Edited February 4 by Texasota Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 (edited) 5 hours ago, akirby said: I don't care what they do at this point as long as they do something and follow it through. Or have another contingency plant to switch to……LOL, sorry couldn’t resist… (Happy Birthday) Hey Texasorta, So thinking this through, Ford sees a big market for battery production but, If Tesla is already heavily engaged in supplying industrial batteries, will there be enough buyers for Ford? Edited February 4 by jpd80 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherminator98 Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 4 minutes ago, jpd80 said: Hey Texasorta, So thinking this through, Ford sees a big market for battery production but, If Tesla is already heavily engaged in supplying industrial batteries, will there be enough buyers for Ford? The US is going through an unpresented growth in energy requirements for manufacturing and AI, so I don't think their will be too much an issue in selling batteries to people for energy storage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texasota Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 (edited) 1 hour ago, Sherminator98 said: The US is going through an unpresented growth in energy requirements for manufacturing and AI, so I don't think their will be too much an issue in selling batteries to people for energy storage. Yes, exactly. The new data centers are exploding and they will be using BESS. If what I have been reading is correct, then there is going to be strong demand. I just hope the Ford Energy cells have fewer problems than the Samsung cells used in the Escape PHEV. @jpd80’s concerns are valid. Edited February 4 by Texasota Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Rosadini Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 5 hours ago, rmc523 said: Let me rephrase....I know what he said......I don't get the point lol. Doesn't make any sense Any actual fleet person would know the players out there, and wouldn't see an ad on TV for a F-750 and be like "why didn't I think of that!?!" OK, Last point I will make-0h yes happy BD AK-Hope you are still going when you are 82😎 I have never said a word about class 8, that ship sailed 28 years ago. And I am NOT talking about fleets that have a "fleet Manager". I'm talking about the thousands of small business owners who have a small number of trucks ..typically in classes 1-7 that are a necessity to support their business...trucks are a tool, not the breadwinner in their business. And some of these guys are diehards when it comes to what they buy while others buy what is available. And yes, I'm guilty. If Ford Pro is supposed to appeal to "Business" I just suggest they should portray Ford as a company that sells other vehicles besides pick ups and Transits. As I've said the New England dealer group has been running their ads that feature the full product slate. Must be a reason right? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
morgan20 Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 14 minutes ago, Texasota said: The new data centers are exploding Call the fire department! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 29 minutes ago, Texasota said: The new data centers are exploding What is it? It's a large building that houses computer and networking equipment - but that's not important right now! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 18 minutes ago, Bob Rosadini said: And yes, I'm guilty. If Ford Pro is supposed to appeal to "Business" I just suggest they should portray Ford as a company that sells other vehicles besides pick ups and Transits. Thanks for the bday wishes. As for portraying ford as a company that sells other vehicles maybe you should check out fordpro.com..... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texasota Posted February 5 Share Posted February 5 2 hours ago, morgan20 said: Call the fire department! I guess that was kind of funny wording! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted February 5 Share Posted February 5 9 hours ago, Sherminator98 said: The US is going through an unpresented growth in energy requirements for manufacturing and AI, so I don't think there will be too much an issue in selling batteries to people for energy storage. Respectfully, this has an eerily similar sound to it but hey, Ford could be about to strike real pay dirt….. LFP batteries are pretty bullet proof, so chances are good that quality issues should be a rare event and nothing like the Mach E contaminated cell issues of a few years ago would happen with this chemistry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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