Sherminator98 Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 https://electrek.co/2026/02/09/rivian-r2-enters-final-validation-testing-spotted-uncamouflaged-on-streets/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biker16 Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 Reviews are here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twintornados Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 Here is to hoping for a D2 trim level.....😂 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmc523 Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 I like how the R1 (T and S) look. I'm liking how this R2 looks as well. I hope the product does well for them. Sure the front end is odd, but I'm used to it at this point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 4 hours ago, Biker16 said: Reviews are here Why aren't you complaining that Rivian is forcing their customers to buy a truck and SUV? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeluxeStang Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 Given how volatile Rivian stock is, In expecting it to drop this week as we near their quarterly earnings, it almost always does. But after that, I'm buying in an holding until the r2 release in June. I genuinely believe this company is setting itself up to be successful long term. They're doing everything right Tesla did, with the added benefits of having a more enticing design language, avoiding all the controversy, and receiving billions in funding from external sources like Amazon and VW. I wouldn't be surprised if the share price was $50 a share in a few years time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biker16 Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 1 hour ago, akirby said: Why aren't you complaining that Rivian is forcing their customers to buy a truck and SUV? Rivian never canceled its cars. I hope this resolves your confusion on this topic. BTW The R3 is a Small Hatchback. Rivian R3: Electric Crossover Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmc523 Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 1 hour ago, DeluxeStang said: Given how volatile Rivian stock is, In expecting it to drop this week as we near their quarterly earnings, it almost always does. But after that, I'm buying in an holding until the r2 release in June. I genuinely believe this company is setting itself up to be successful long term. They're doing everything right Tesla did, with the added benefits of having a more enticing design language, avoiding all the controversy, and receiving billions in funding from external sources like Amazon and VW. I wouldn't be surprised if the share price was $50 a share in a few years time. Sadly, I bought 10 Rivian shares early on, hoping they'd be another Tesla stock, only for it to drop to its current levels lol. I'm waiting....and waiting....and waiting....lol 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmc523 Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 3 minutes ago, Biker16 said: Rivian never canceled its cars. I hope this resolves your confusion on this topic. BTW The R3 is a Small Hatchback. Rivian R3: Electric Crossover Ah yes. The R3, which you can get now! Oh...wait..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biker16 Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 1 hour ago, DeluxeStang said: Given how volatile Rivian stock is, In expecting it to drop this week as we near their quarterly earnings, it almost always does. But after that, I'm buying in an holding until the r2 release in June. I genuinely believe this company is setting itself up to be successful long term. They're doing everything right Tesla did, with the added benefits of having a more enticing design language, avoiding all the controversy, and receiving billions in funding from external sources like Amazon and VW. I wouldn't be surprised if the share price was $50 a share in a few years time. its Hillarious that Ford Wrote off their investment in Rivian in 2023 Ford sells majority stake in Rivian after reporting $7.3B write-down | TechCrunch This is so Ford.... they can never stick to a plan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biker16 Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 1 minute ago, rmc523 said: Ah yes. The R3, which you can get now! Oh...wait..... It'd be funny if Rivian R3 beat Ford's low-cost models to market. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherminator98 Posted February 11 Author Share Posted February 11 2 hours ago, Biker16 said: It'd be funny if Rivian R3 beat Ford's low-cost models to market. The CE1 truck will be closer in size to the R1 pickup anyways. The R2 is roughly the same length as the Escape, so if anything the CE1 CUV will be roughly the same size as the R2 and be about 10-15K cheaper in starting price. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biker16 Posted February 11 Share Posted February 11 32 minutes ago, Sherminator98 said: The CE1 truck will be closer in size to the R1 pickup anyways. The R2 is roughly the same length as the Escape, so if anything the CE1 CUV will be roughly the same size as the R2 and be about 10-15K cheaper in starting price. We'll See 🙃 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted February 11 Share Posted February 11 3 hours ago, Biker16 said: its Hillarious that Ford Wrote off their investment in Rivian in 2023 They didn't do enough due diligence before entering the relationship. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmc523 Posted February 11 Share Posted February 11 (edited) 15 hours ago, Biker16 said: It'd be funny if Rivian R3 beat Ford's low-cost models to market. Ah yes, the vehicle that they debuted in March 2024 could possibly go on sale before a vehicle that hasn't even debuted yet...... Hilarious and shocking/unexpected!!!!! Edited February 11 by rmc523 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biker16 Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 Another review https://www.motortrend.com/reviews/first-drive-2026-rivian-r2-dual-motor-awd 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmc523 Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 I'm liking the R2 a lot. It's a good looking product and seems to have some nice features. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biker16 Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 On 2/10/2026 at 8:36 PM, akirby said: They didn't do enough due diligence before entering the relationship. Let's imagine that Ford kept their investment in Rivian. How would that have changed the trajectory of Ford EVs? 2022- Ford Posts Loss as It Takes $2.7 Billion Charge on Argo Driverless Venture - WSJ 2025- Ford scraps key software program after $10 billion in losses 2026- Ford retreats from EVs, takes $19.5 billion charge as Trump policies grip industry 2026 - Ford Admits Its EV Division Will Keep Burning Billions For Years | Carscoops That's $40-44 billion in Losses. I don't think due diligence is the problem IMO, Ford would have been better off acquiring Technology through acquisitions rather than building it in-house. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 9 minutes ago, Biker16 said: Let's imagine that Ford kept their investment in Rivian. How would that have changed the trajectory of Ford EVs? 2022- Ford Posts Loss as It Takes $2.7 Billion Charge on Argo Driverless Venture - WSJ 2025- Ford scraps key software program after $10 billion in losses 2026- Ford retreats from EVs, takes $19.5 billion charge as Trump policies grip industry 2026 - Ford Admits Its EV Division Will Keep Burning Billions For Years | Carscoops That's $40-44 billion in Losses. I don't think due diligence is the problem IMO, Ford would have been better off acquiring Technology through acquisitions rather than building it in-house. All it would have given them is a large Ford and Lincoln crossover. Nothing that would compete with CE1. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biker16 Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 (edited) 5 minutes ago, akirby said: All it would have given them is a large Ford and Lincoln crossover. Nothing that would compete with CE1. and a working zonal Software Architecture, and an established Battery supply, and Advanced Motors. All designed and sourced in the USA How Rivian Developed Its Zonal Architecture In Just Two Years EV profitability is about scale; without it, you can't bring costs down. Edited February 13 by Biker16 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 14 minutes ago, Biker16 said: and a working zonal Software Architecture, and an established Battery supply, and Advanced Motors. All designed and sourced in the USA How Rivian Developed Its Zonal Architecture In Just Two Years EV profitability is about scale; without it, you can't bring costs down. There is no indication that system is cheaper or better than CE1. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmc523 Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 1 hour ago, Biker16 said: and a working zonal Software Architecture, and an established Battery supply, and Advanced Motors. All designed and sourced in the USA How Rivian Developed Its Zonal Architecture In Just Two Years EV profitability is about scale; without it, you can't bring costs down. The issue was reportedly that Rivian's systems didn't talk with Ford's systems. So you're having something completely standalone in relation to all other Ford products......you're just buying something and having to develop those products completely independently from Ford models that eliminates any economies of scale from other Ford products. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biker16 Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 1 hour ago, akirby said: There is no indication that system is cheaper or better than CE1. This is true; we don't know what CE1 has. 37 minutes ago, rmc523 said: The issue was reportedly that Rivian's systems didn't talk with Ford's systems. So you're having something completely standalone in relation to all other Ford products......you're just buying something and having to develop those products completely independently from Ford models that eliminates any economies of scale from other Ford products. There will be tension between what works today and what works in the future. Using VW's experience with integrating two separate Zonal Architectures after their in-house architecture failed. They had to start from a clean sheet and couldn't use their current systems. At the time, Ford wasn't willing to do that; they seem to have a change of heart with CE1. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherminator98 Posted February 16 Author Share Posted February 16 On 2/13/2026 at 3:32 PM, Biker16 said: There will be tension between what works today and what works in the future. Using VW's experience with integrating two separate Zonal Architectures after their in-house architecture failed. They had to start from a clean sheet and couldn't use their current systems. At the time, Ford wasn't willing to do that; they seem to have a change of heart with CE1. VW IMO was in worst shape for future EV development then Ford due to being "too big to fail" and it hurting from dieselgate. Their hand was forced to work with Rivian. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biker16 Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 (edited) 1 hour ago, Sherminator98 said: VW IMO was in worst shape for future EV development then Ford due to being "too big to fail" and it hurting from dieselgate. Their hand was forced to work with Rivian. I don't think so. You could say VW was more exposed due their Reliance on China and Europe for volume. I also think that VW being the first legacy automaker to bring a dedicated EV platform to market hurt them, in the Medium term with numerous Software issues, and Inflexible battery architecture. The hardware issues are being resolved this year with the Debut of the Rivian-based Zonal software package in 2027 or 2028. Ford, on the other hand, outsourced its EV development in Europe to VW and leaned heavily on suppliers like BorgWarner in its early EVs. Software-wise, I don't have a good understanding of where Ford Stands with Zonal Architectures. I do know they cancelled their First effort last year. Edited February 16 by Biker16 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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