Texasota Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 1 hour ago, akirby said: They've said exactly what they're building, with prices, shown sillouettes, shown the new assembly process and presumably will show even more details on how they're achieving their objectives. Agree, they have revealed a lot of information on the ce1 truck except for an actual picture and more information is coming on 2/17/2026. But, if one's definition of hiding is the absence of a picture, then Tuesday is going to be another hiding event. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeluxeStang Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 3 hours ago, jpd80 said: Last year, Tesla sold 358,000 odd Ys in the US, it’s very popular but just imagine instead of that giant piss trough, Musk had kept focus on a mid sized pickup…. That misstep by Tesla now gives an opportunity for Ford….. Yeah, the decision to not only try to go toe to toe with the f-150, but to do so with such a polarizing design with the CT was a real head scratcher moment. A mid-sized Tesla truck with more traditional styling would have sold like gangbusters. Something like maverick with a slightly shorter hood and bolder lines would be pretty nice to see. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeluxeStang Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 3 hours ago, Texasota said: Agree, they have revealed a lot of information on the ce1 truck except for an actual picture and more information is coming on 2/17/2026. But, if one's definition of hiding is the absence of a picture, then Tuesday is going to be another hiding event. I personally believe this is the truck. I've shared these photos before, but I'll share them again so you don't have to go digging through old posts. The way the front fender line slops down near the front perfectly matches the confirmed image we have of the front end sloping down. You can also see a hint of a squared off wheel well which would suit a truck well. Then there's a diagonal character line behind the wheel, and maybe some sort of vent. If my hypothesis is correct and this turns out to be the front of the truck, then we also know what the roofline looks like because they show that same tarped design later on. The way the roofline starts to slope down would make sense for aero, and is pretty close to a patent image that showed a fastback style bed cover. The height is a hangup, it looks really low. But it could be a matter of perspective, or the model being below full scale, or not having wheels for this particular mock up. Lots of reasons why it could look lower here than it actually is. If I'm right and this is it, I like it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherminator98 Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 2 hours ago, DeluxeStang said: A mid-sized Tesla truck with more traditional styling would have sold like gangbusters. It hasn't for Rivian 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeluxeStang Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 2 hours ago, Sherminator98 said: It hasn't for Rivian To be fair, the Rivian is a midsized truck that's priced like a full sized truck and comes from an unproven startup, so those are both factors working against it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AM222 Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 (edited) On 2/14/2026 at 6:58 AM, jpd80 said: Don’t get me wrong, I hope CE1 is a success but I just see the whole development as being less about customer wants and needs and more about what Ford can make for higher profit. Remember, Ford thought it was right about every other BEV it has developed so far that either made it to market and then underwhelmed with sales or was killed in development. What is it about a mid sized BEV pickup truck that makes it a compelling buy over say a good hybrid Ranger? I just hope Ford does two things... a full-hybrid Ranger option and an EREV option for the CE1-based models. Pure BEV pickups only work when used as regular cars. Edited February 16 by AM222 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmc523 Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 On 2/14/2026 at 8:47 AM, akirby said: Why do people buy Mavericks over Rangers? Ford RWD hybrids only add about 6 mpg city and 0 highway. That puts a hybrid Ranger at 27/26 while a hybrid Maverick is 42/35. Hybrid Ranger doesn't move the bar just like Explorer hybrid didn't move the bar enough. The breakthrough with ce1 is about production costs but that also translates into lower MSRPs which helps buyers and will yield higher volume. I don't think they'll screw up the design or features in search of more aero and lower prices but we'll have to wait and see. I'd say buyers that want a "traditional" BOF truck that isn't the size of F-150. On 2/14/2026 at 8:51 AM, akirby said: Ok I get it. I'm looking at Maverick which they absolutely nailed so I'm giving them the benefit of the doubt. Then followed that success up with nothing using the same process lol. On 2/14/2026 at 11:44 AM, akirby said: Gotcha. Powerboost is the way to go. I think some hear hybrid ranger or bronco and think it's going to get 40 mpg like Maverick. I don't think most realistic folks would expect a Ranger PowerBoost to get anywhere near that. On 2/14/2026 at 7:12 PM, Texasota said: We already know from Farley's comments that a Bronco with exportable power (i.e. Pro Power Onboard) is coming. That means there will be a hybrid Bronco since that is a prerequisite for the larger Pro Power Onboard systems. The unknown is whether Ford will do the same for the Ranger (assuming it remains in the NA Ford lineup). It would seem like a no-brainer to me to offer it on Ranger since the work has already been done, and they share a factory. The big question is whether Ranger sticks around... On 2/15/2026 at 9:17 AM, akirby said: I think it's way too early to reveal details to the public. Why show something that's more than a year away? Remember Bronco? Maverick brought in mostly non Ford buyers too. That's a good thing since you're not cannibalizing other Ford sales. The reason Lightning reservations were cancelled were mainly due to the price changes so keeping the price at $30k-$35k will be key. I think we'll see teasers until fall when they'll unveil it and start taking reservations. Revealing it early doesn't help Ford at all. It also gives them more time to make changes. I feel like the drip feed is because they know they have nothing else close enough in the pipeline, so they have to keep pushing something out to remind people "hey, don't forget we're doing things!" Ideally, for me, they'd skip all this drip feed and do a broader/more detailed reveal at once. It almost make it feel even further away than it is........But I guess it is nice to get...something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmc523 Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 20 hours ago, jpd80 said: I’m wondering if production launches late in 2017, that would mean no reveal until at least the end of this year Well, I think they missed that launch date....... 🤣 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 1 hour ago, rmc523 said: Well, I think they missed that launch date....... 🤣 Yeah sorry, I’m laid up at the moment with a bad viral infection and pain killers, my brain and typing is really suspect at the moment I meant late 2027 for possible CE1 production launch as a reason why were not yet within that 12 mont zone before release… Sometimes there are no explanations…… 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 (edited) Has anyone heard anything more on truck to be built at Tennessee°? it sounds more like a placeholder while they get something in there. Edited February 16 by jpd80 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmc523 Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 1 hour ago, jpd80 said: Yeah sorry, I’m laid up at the moment with a bad viral infection and pain killers, my brain and typing is really suspect at the moment I meant late 2027 for possible CE1 production launch as a reason why were not yet within that 12 mont zone before release… Sometimes there are no explanations…… Oh I know you meant 2027....it was just funny. Yeah, Ford loves their year gap between debut and going on sale, so I'd say you're right, we're over a year out at least. 1 hour ago, jpd80 said: Has anyone heard anything more on truck to be built at Tennessee°? it sounds more like a placeholder while they get something in there. I don't think we know anything for sure. Honestly, your placeholder idea is as good as any suggestion thrown out thus far.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AM222 Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 On 2/14/2026 at 9:47 PM, akirby said: Why do people buy Mavericks over Rangers? Ford RWD hybrids only add about 6 mpg city and 0 highway. That puts a hybrid Ranger at 27/26 while a hybrid Maverick is 42/35. Hybrid Ranger doesn't move the bar just like Explorer hybrid didn't move the bar enough. Lower price, more fuel efficient, fits more garages meant for cars. BEVs, they still need to shorten the charging time, and the charging infrastructure (which is not equal from city to city or town to town) still can't match that of the gas stations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe771476 Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 So are the mfrs. going to listen to govt. mandates brought about by whoever is in the White House? Biden told them you will build EV's by 2030/2035. Then Trump relaxed climate regs and took away the incentives. If the next administration favors EV's, then the mfrs. have to shift gears and ramp up EV production again. Ford et all will lose billions trying to keep up! It's like a roller coaster diet! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmc523 Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 2 hours ago, Joe771476 said: So are the mfrs. going to listen to govt. mandates brought about by whoever is in the White House? Biden told them you will build EV's by 2030/2035. Then Trump relaxed climate regs and took away the incentives. If the next administration favors EV's, then the mfrs. have to shift gears and ramp up EV production again. Ford et all will lose billions trying to keep up! It's like a roller coaster diet! You're right on the surface. If Ford had cancelled ALL EV stuff, I'd be more concerned, but Ford is still moving forward with CE1 to safeguard against that, and will have the option to readjust the batter plant as needed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twintornados Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 46 minutes ago, rmc523 said: You're right on the surface. If Ford had cancelled ALL EV stuff, I'd be more concerned, but Ford is still moving forward with CE1 to safeguard against that, and will have the option to readjust the batter plant as needed. ...and production of GE1 Mach E. Not cancelled but a sneaking hunch that it will transition to CE1 within 24-36 months. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherminator98 Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 On 2/16/2026 at 11:45 AM, jpd80 said: Has anyone heard anything more on truck to be built at Tennessee°? it sounds more like a placeholder while they get something in there. I've been saying that since they changed product to be built there. I wouldn't be shocked if the next gen ICE Maverick didn't get moved there...but who knows. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherminator98 Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 13 minutes ago, twintornados said: ...and production of GE1 Mach E. Not cancelled but a sneaking hunch that it will transition to CE1 within 24-36 months. The next CE1 product is supposed to be a CUV in 2028(?). IIRC Ford hasn't said that all the products being built off the CE1 will ONLY come from Louisville either. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twintornados Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 4 minutes ago, Sherminator98 said: The next CE1 product is supposed to be a CUV in 2028(?). IIRC Ford hasn't said that all the products being built off the CE1 will ONLY come from Louisville either. I was thinking that Cuautitlán would be next on the hit parade to move to CE1 after Louisville... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
morgan20 Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 On 2/16/2026 at 5:59 AM, AM222 said: Pure BEV pickups only work when used as regular cars. Nah, pure BEV pickup trucks work better - whether as pickup trucks or as regular cars 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherminator98 Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 41 minutes ago, morgan20 said: Nah, pure BEV pickup trucks work better - whether as pickup trucks or as regular cars unless you have to tow or haul something more then 50 miles 😛 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeluxeStang Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 On 2/23/2026 at 10:32 AM, twintornados said: ...and production of GE1 Mach E. Not cancelled but a sneaking hunch that it will transition to CE1 within 24-36 months. With rumors hinting that the mustang utility was gonna become gas powered, I thought that meant the days of the pure EV mach-e were numbered. But perhaps Ford is planning to give their next mustang crossover both ICE and EV powertrains? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biker16 Posted March 18 Author Share Posted March 18 5 hours ago, Sherminator98 said: unless you have to tow or haul something more then 50 miles 😛 Kidding Aside It's not that simple. EVs Tow and haul better than comparable ICE vehicles. More torque, more power, and regenerative braking. They just don't go as far, which can be an issue, for some The 2026 Chevrolet Silverado EV Tows Like A Diesel Truck, But America Isn’t Ready For It Yet The 2024/2026 Chevrolet Silverado EV offers an EPA-estimated range of up to 450 miles on a full charge, which is reduced to approximately 200-225 miles when towing, depending on load, speed, and terrain. The truck boasts a max towing capacity of up to 12,500 lbs and 785 lb-ft of torque, with fast-charging capabilities providing around 100 miles of range in 10 minutes. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 Just to add some perspective here, CE1 and Louisville is a combined $5 billion investment, thats F150 level funding for what is supposed to be an affordable line of BEVs. It’s easy to see how Ford’s electric vehicle plans fall over when there’s not enough buyers, the zeros pile up very quickly…… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
morgan20 Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 16 minutes ago, jpd80 said: Just to add some perspective here, CE1 and Louisville is a combined $5 billion investment, thats F150 level funding for what is supposed to be an affordable line of BEVs. It’s easy to see how Ford’s electric vehicle plans fall over when there’s not enough buyers, the zeros pile up very quickly…… The head honcho claims that CE1 is an internal Apollo style mission with little margin for error. I'm cautiously optimistic that the combination of skunkworks intensity, distance from the big shots in Dearborn, product appeal, and affordable price will make it unlikely that CE1 related plans fall over when there’s not enough buyers. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherminator98 Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 17 hours ago, Biker16 said: They just don't go as far, which can be an issue, for some which is the point I was making Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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