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First Look: This Is The All-New Kia EV3

 

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The 2027 Kia EV3 rides on the E-GMP platform. This is a 400-volt system available with either a standard-range 58.3-kWh battery pack or a long-range 81.4-kWh pack. The standard range pack is only offered on the Light trim, which only arrives with FWD. The other four trims (Wind, Land, GT-Line, and GT) are fitted with the larger pack, and you can go from 10-80 percent state of charge in around 31 minutes on a DC Fast Charger.The 2027 Kia EV3 rides on the E-GMP platform. This is a 400-volt system available with either a standard-range 58.3-kWh battery pack or a long-range 81.4-kWh pack. The standard range pack is only offered on the Light trim, which only arrives with FWD. The other four trims (Wind, Land, GT-Line, and GT) are fitted with the larger pack, and you can go from 10-80 percent state of charge in around 31 minutes on a DC Fast Charger.

 

Wind and Land models come standard with FWD, but AWD is available. Meanwhile, both the GT-Line and GT are AWD only. All versions, however, feature a native NACS charging port.

Kia doesn't quote a power output for any of the FWD models. It does, however, have estimated driving ranges. The standard-range Light should be good for 220 miles, while the long-range FWD EV3 offerings are good for up to 320 miles. As for power,  the EV3 doles out 261 horsepower in the AWD models. That figure bumps up to 288 hp on the EV3 GT. 

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2027 Kia EV3 Pricing: More Pizzazz, but Less Range Than Budget Rivals - Autoblog

 

The 2027 Kia EV3 starts at $29,890 for the Light trim, joining the Nissan Leaf and Chevy Bolt as an EV you can buy new for under $30,000. That price excludes a destination charge of $1,385, but it’s still significantly cheaper than expected. Here’s pricing for the entire EV3 lineup.

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5 hours ago, twintornados said:

Curious why Kia / Hyundai can come out with a cheap FWD based EV, but FoMoCo cannot. 

 

Curious why Ford can do a F150, Super Duty, Bronco, Bronco Sport, Ranger, Transit, Aviator, Navigator, Expedition and a cheap EV truck and Kia can't?

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54 minutes ago, akirby said:

 

Curious why Ford can do a F150, Super Duty, Bronco, Bronco Sport, Ranger, Transit, Aviator, Navigator, Expedition and a cheap EV truck and Kia can't?

While Ford does well in its home market, Kia's focus is oriented to the ROW markets: 2.28 million units for the Kia brand versus Ford 1.33 million units (all nameplates) outside of the US.

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1 hour ago, Motorpsychology said:

While Ford does well in its home market, Kia's focus is oriented to the ROW markets: 2.28 million units for the Kia brand versus Ford 1.33 million units (all nameplates) outside of the US.


It was a rhetorical question to point out that Ford simply has different strengths and priorities.

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6 hours ago, twintornados said:

 

Didn't say "better"...just a note that there is no FWD centric EV from FoMoCo....was wondering why....


But you said ford can't - I say there was no advantage to fwd in an EV.  In fact rwd is probably better with no steering and it leaves more frunk room.

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11 hours ago, twintornados said:

Didn't say "better"...just a note that there is no FWD centric EV from FoMoCo....was wondering why....

 

Most likely a conscious decision to go RWD for EV's.  The Mach-E is a Mustang, which goes hand-in-hand with RWD.  Ditto with the F-150 Lightning.  FWD EV would be a poor choice for a pickup truck.  They know how to do it, but have chosen not to, at least so far.

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8 hours ago, akirby said:


But you said ford can't - I say there was no advantage to fwd in an EV.  In fact rwd is probably better with no steering and it leaves more frunk room.

 

I was asking a simple question - if there are no advantages to FWD in an EV, why are competitors able to do it, yet Ford chooses not to. You would think that the UEV platform would led itself to that level of flexibility. FWD is also a proven compact package that gives more space. I don't think "more frunk room" is a major concern for Ford or else they would've kept it as "standard" on Mach E. 

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34 minutes ago, twintornados said:

 

Why? My Maverick is FWD based and it gets around just fine.


Your Maverick has far less torque than an EV.  FWD ICE is cheaper to manufacture and fits better in smaller vehicles.  But it can't handle a lot of torque due to torque steer.  The downside to RWD ICE is a driveshaft that takes up passenger space and more components.

 

EVs eliminate all those concerns except torque steer so RWD is a better choice.  If KIA chose FWD then there must be some synergy with fwd ICE vehicles otherwise it makes no sense.  On a clean sheet dedicated EV platform I can't think of any advantage to FWD.

 

 

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6 hours ago, akirby said:


Your Maverick has far less torque than an EV.  FWD ICE is cheaper to manufacture and fits better in smaller vehicles.  But it can't handle a lot of torque due to torque steer.  The downside to RWD ICE is a driveshaft that takes up passenger space and more components.

 

EVs eliminate all those concerns except torque steer so RWD is a better choice.  If KIA chose FWD then there must be some synergy with fwd ICE vehicles otherwise it makes no sense.  On a clean sheet dedicated EV platform I can't think of any advantage to FWD.

 

 

 

So, FoMoCo cannot figure out how to attenuate torque steer while other manufacturers can? I don't believe that for one second. One major advantage in a FWD layout is traction availability. I am not saying it is "better" than RWD, but after a few generations of drivers that learned to drive safely in a small, lightweight FWD based vehicle, switching them up to a RWD vehicle could be a negative for them.....I actually prefer RWD but then again, that's me.  

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7 hours ago, akirby said:

EVs eliminate all those concerns except torque steer so RWD is a better choice.  If KIA chose FWD then there must be some synergy with fwd ICE vehicles otherwise it makes no sense.  On a clean sheet dedicated EV platform I can't think of any advantage to FWD.

 

Torque steer is from uneven length axle shafts found in traverse transaxles on ICE products. IIRC 40 years ago this was an issue because of the lack of transmission/engine management. Its been mitigated to a point due to the use of AWD and controlling torque output from the powertrain. 

 

Looking at the E-GMP platform on Hyundai's page, shows the motors in the middle of the "axle" so torque steer wouldn't be an issue, because both drive shafts should be almost identical in length on both sides. 

 

Though I do have questions on how you squeeze 7 motors in an EV like the Mach E 1400..do they stack together? How does the odd man work? LOL

 

https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a33368022/ford-mustang-mach-e-1400-revealed/

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57 minutes ago, twintornados said:

 

So, FoMoCo cannot figure out how to attenuate torque steer while other manufacturers can? I don't believe that for one second. One major advantage in a FWD layout is traction availability. I am not saying it is "better" than RWD, but after a few generations of drivers that learned to drive safely in a small, lightweight FWD based vehicle, switching them up to a RWD vehicle could be a negative for them.....I actually prefer RWD but then again, that's me.  


They attenuated torque steer by avoiding it altogether.  EV batteries are so heavy and balanced that there is no difference in handling or traction.

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