Ford CEO Outlines How Many EVs Company Will Sell With New Platform

[DeluxeStang]

46 minutes ago, Trader 10 said:

Compared to what and at what speed? Ford isn’t saying yet. Are they inferring 50 miles better than a 200 mile range or a 250 mile range? I can see excellent aero improvements adding 50 miles at 70 mph but not during city driving. 

I believe it's highway speeds. 

[rmc523]

1 hour ago, Zestyg said:

Did we ever get any insight to what it looked like besides the totally concealed shape?

 

 

That's all we ever saw as far as I know, aside from talk that they were weird looking.

[Willwll313wll]

3 hours ago, rmc523 said:

 

That's all we ever saw as far as I know, aside from talk that they were weird looking.

 

3 hours ago, rmc523 said:

 

That's all we ever saw as far as I know, aside from talk that they were weird looking.

 

Unbeknownst to everyone, it's been online for a long time now.. Can't confirm how i can confirm but... I was going to post about it last year but figured interest had died anyway... but here it is. 

Edited April 14 by Willwll313wll

[Willwll313wll]

4 hours ago, Zestyg said:

Did we ever get any insight to what it looked like besides the totally concealed shape?

 

 

You can see the white peeking just above the lower rockers. Sorry, should've showed you guys sooner haha.

[Willwll313wll]

Only posting it here because it's already online so...

Don't even know how it was allowed to be posted. Maybe they assumed no one would put 2 and 2 together. 

Edited April 15 by Willwll313wll

[DeluxeStang]

1 hour ago, Willwll313wll said:

 

 

Unbeknownst to everyone, it's been online for a long time now.. Can't confirm how i can confirm but... I was going to post about it last year but figured interest had died anyway... but here it is. 

Man I wished the Ford three row looked this good. I get the impression the actual design was worse than this. 

[DeluxeStang]

1 hour ago, Willwll313wll said:

 

You can see the white peeking just above the lower rockers. Sorry, should've showed you guys sooner haha.

I thought you were using AI to mess with us, but doing a google lens search shows this as the background banner on Doug Field's, one of the skunkworks EV Ford engineers LinkedIn profile, so this could be legit. I'm surprised they let him keep that up there. 

Edited April 15 by DeluxeStang

[Willwll313wll]

12 minutes ago, DeluxeStang said:

Man I wished the Ford three row looked this good. I get the impression the actual design was worse than this. 

I actually don't like it very much, at least from this view. 

 

11 minutes ago, DeluxeStang said:

I thought you were using AI to mess with us, but doing a google lens search shows this as the background banner on Doug Field's, one of the skunkworks EV Ford engineers LinkedIn profile, so this could be legit. I'm surprised they let him keep that up there. 

Nope! It's the real thing. 😉

[DeluxeStang]

14 minutes ago, Willwll313wll said:

I actually don't like it very much, at least from this view. 

 

Nope! It's the real thing. 😉

Thank you for sharing this. Are there other angles out there, or do we just have the side for now?

[Willwll313wll]

29 minutes ago, DeluxeStang said:

Thank you for sharing this. Are there other angles out there, or do we just have the side for now?

 

No information I could share publicly but I can say I have NOT seen any other angles of this one.

I have seen other angles of a similar car. I'm assuming it was one of the themes that didn't make it as far as this model. Same shape, different lighting elements, details, etc.

[DeluxeStang]

26 minutes ago, Willwll313wll said:

 

No information I could share publicly but I can say I have NOT seen any other angles of this one.

I have seen other angles of a similar car. I'm assuming it was one of the themes that didn't make it as far as this model. Same shape, different lighting elements, details, etc.

Did you like the design from other angles more than you like it from the side view out of curiosity?

[Sherminator98]

16 hours ago, Trader 10 said:

Compared to what and at what speed? Ford isn’t saying yet. Are they inferring 50 miles better than a 200 mile range or a 250 mile range? I can see excellent aero improvements adding 50 miles at 70 mph but not during city driving. 

 

But with city driving you get regenerative charging from braking/slowing down to help with keeping the battery charged. 

 

Once a car gets above 50 MPH, the amount of power to keep it over the speed exponentially increases, thus why MPGs drop so much as speed increases. 

 

I see this with my Bronco-its a brick aerodynamically-but I can get 20-21 MPG with the 2.7L V6 with my commute to work that the fastest I should go is like 55-60-the vast majority of the time I'm doing 30-45. I can hit the highway and do 70-75 (the wind noise from the roof racks and the car itself gets to be a bit unbearable above that) and I'm lucky if I can keep getting 20 MPG. 

Edited April 15 by Sherminator98

[rmc523]

14 hours ago, Willwll313wll said:

 

 

Unbeknownst to everyone, it's been online for a long time now.. Can't confirm how i can confirm but... I was going to post about it last year but figured interest had died anyway... but here it is. 

 

Lol don't keep that stuff from us!  We were long curious about it!

[Zestyg]

2 hours ago, Sherminator98 said:

 

But with city driving you get regenerative charging from braking/slowing down to help with keeping the battery charged. 

 

Once a car gets above 50 MPH, the amount of power to keep it over the speed exponentially increases, thus why MPGs drop so much as speed increases. 

 

I see this with my Bronco-its a brick aerodynamically-but I can get 20-21 MPG with the 2.7L V6 with my commute to work that the fastest I should go is like 55-60-the vast majority of the time I'm doing 30-45. I can hit the highway and do 70-75 (the wind noise from the roof racks and the car itself gets to be a bit unbearable above that) and I'm lucky if I can keep getting 20 MPG. 

It feels radically under-appreciated both by petrolheads and EV firebrands how impressive modern engine series like the Ecoboost are. The fact that a Bronco can get over 20 mpg with a V6 is a feat. If you make it a turbo-hybrid it can become a flawless power unit like Powerboost, that I feel parallels the capability of an EV drivetrain. I’m very excited for EVs (and admittedly am not interested in a pure ICE ever again, especially some shit like a turbo-3 cyl) but part of why EVs are so hard to get right I think is because of how impressive our engine technology is.

[fordmantpw]

25 minutes ago, Zestyg said:

It feels radically under-appreciated both by petrolheads and EV firebrands how impressive modern engine series like the Ecoboost are. The fact that a Bronco can get over 20 mpg with a V6 is a feat. If you make it a turbo-hybrid it can become a flawless power unit like Powerboost, that I feel parallels the capability of an EV drivetrain. I’m very excited for EVs (and admittedly am not interested in a pure ICE ever again, especially some shit like a turbo-3 cyl) but part of why EVs are so hard to get right I think is because of how impressive our engine technology is.

 

Meh, my '86 Bronco II got about 4 MPG better fuel economy than our 2024 Bronco gets, and it had a V6 as well.

 

Of course, it was gutless (going up hills was easier if I turned the A/C off), had a manual transmission, had wimpy tires, was geared super-high, and probably weighed 2000 lbs less.

 

I'll take the 2024 with it's hit in MPG.

[Willwll313wll]

2 hours ago, rmc523 said:

 

Lol don't keep that stuff from us!  We were long curious about it!

Haha also I work in the industry now so I have to be mindful. Up until 2024, I was just another car guy on a forum.

[rmc523]

1 hour ago, Willwll313wll said:

Haha also I work in the industry now so I have to be mindful. Up until 2024, I was just another car guy on a forum.

 

Obviously don't get yourself in trouble!

[Sherminator98]

4 hours ago, Zestyg said:

especially some shit like a turbo-3 cyl

 

I dunno, I don't miss the 2.0L Ecoboost my wife's Escape had vs the 1.3L Ecoboost that is in her Bronco Sport now. 

[DeluxeStang]

39 minutes ago, Sherminator98 said:

 

I dunno, I don't miss the 2.0L Ecoboost my wife's Escape had vs the 1.3L Ecoboost that is in her Bronco Sport now. 

Doesn't the 1.5 had a lot of issues though? 

[Trader 10]

1 hour ago, DeluxeStang said:

Doesn't the 1.5 had a lot of issues though? 

The 1.5 I-4 had some problems but I believe the 3 cylinder has been a solid engine. 

[Andrew L]

1 hour ago, Trader 10 said:

The 1.5 I-4 had some problems but I believe the 3 cylinder has been a solid engine. 

 

The 3 has a lot of issues. I've seen several videos and posts saying if you want the Bronco Sport to save a headache and upgrade to the 2.0 and to avoid the 3 at all costs 

[Sherminator98]

3 hours ago, Andrew L said:

 

The 3 has a lot of issues. I've seen several videos and posts saying if you want the Bronco Sport to save a headache and upgrade to the 2.0 and to avoid the 3 at all costs 

 

Just like the 2.7L in the Bronco? LOL

 

IMO think most of the time problems are overstated and are just "content" for social media content creators on Youtube etc. 

[morgan20]

13 hours ago, Zestyg said:

I’m very excited for EVs (and admittedly am not interested in a pure ICE ever again,

 

Yea, same here. Nuthin' but Ford EV for my and my wife's future vehicles.

 

I've owned several F-150s over the years. The one I have now is a '22 F-150 Lightning. Prior to that all of my F-150s had either V8 or Ecoboost V6 engines. 

 

The venture capital big shot Jon McNeill said "it’s just kind of hard to defy gravity if there’s a better product that has better drive characteristics, much lower maintenance and lower total cost of ownership". In the four years I've owned it, the Lightning has proven to be just that.

[Zestyg]

17 hours ago, morgan20 said:

 

Yea, same here. Nuthin' but Ford EV for my and my wife's future vehicles.

 

I've owned several F-150s over the years. The one I have now is a '22 F-150 Lightning. Prior to that all of my F-150s had either V8 or Ecoboost V6 engines. 

 

The venture capital big shot Jon McNeill said "it’s just kind of hard to defy gravity if there’s a better product that has better drive characteristics, much lower maintenance and lower total cost of ownership". In the four years I've owned it, the Lightning has proven to be just that.

My job probably precludes owning an EV until charging improves (if I could charge in <10 minutes I could make it work) but I do genuinely like hybrids a lot. I feel like it captures a lot but not all the advantages of an EV without the drawbacks.

[Andrew L]

22 hours ago, Sherminator98 said:

 

Just like the 2.7L in the Bronco? LOL

 

IMO think most of the time problems are overstated and are just "content" for social media content creators on Youtube etc. 

 

The biggest issues I have seen from multiple sources are the wet oil pump belt which can degrade over time and cause major issues down the line.  It looks like Ford has switched a few engines to this setup too and quite a few folks aren't happy about it due to the issues it has caused.  Sounds like a pretty lousy setup.  I would much rather a chain driven system.

 

https://fordauthority.com/2025/09/1-5l-ford-ecoboost-engine-teardown-reveals-some-troubling-issues-video/

 

 

 

You can say it's "just content" but it really does look like a lousy setup and that they went cheap on the 1.5 I3.  Just posting above as examples.  In the Car Wizard's video he shows how it had a coolant leak too and was coming out of the turbo and the turbo being on back order.  A car that young shouldn't have that many issues.  Car Wizard isn't a Ford hater either he likes Fords and even had a Grand Marquis as a daily for a while.

 

I remember when people first had issues with the 3.7 Internal Water Pump and the 2.0T coolant intrusion issues in the MKZ groups online and there were similar responses that it's all overblown and the 3.7 defenders saying they have 400k miles on theirs and still on the original water pump which I seriously doubt.  Since then though those issues have become more and more prominent in those groups with people getting seriously pissed off that they have to get a new engine on their car that has 70k, 80k, 90k miles.  Yeah the new 2.0T after 2019 fixed that issue so if they did replace the engine there shouldn't be any more issues like that but the damage and reputation are already done.  No fix on the water pump for the 3.7 of course the defenders say "who cares if I have to drop 3k every 70k miles still better than replacing a turbo" and "it's just maintenance"

 

I am just saying I think the 2.0T is a better engine all around for the BS and does NOT have the wet oil belt.

 

I don't know I am just sick of hearing about how many issues newer Ford engines have and it's frustrating.  I get it we are all on a Ford forum and we love our Fords and Lincolns and will defend them to the death but it gets hard to defend when so many issues have been popping up with their engines lately.  Just my 2 cents on it.