Sherminator98 Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 17 minutes ago, Oac98 said: Imagine they delayed this product multiple times too. I know they were trying to get a head start but they can do better than that. I hope they make better decisions going forward and these new upcoming EVs look much better. They will be improved tech wise but I hope the styling matches that. I agree with you some of the decisions Farley has made have been nothing but questionable in my opinion. IIRC it was supposed to launch back in 2024 I want to say, but I'm sure that COVID issues had issues with launching it too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 23 minutes ago, Oac98 said: Imagine they delayed this product multiple times too. I know they were trying to get a head start but they can do better than that. I hope they make better decisions going forward and these new upcoming EVs look much better. They will be improved tech wise but I hope the styling matches that. I agree with you some of the decisions Farley has made have been nothing but questionable in my opinion. More than obvious that Ford obsessed on BEVs to the detriment of its profit earning Ford Blue and Ford Pro business, letting them chug along and hope the profits keep turning up… with sweet FA investment. I look back on the possibility of what was missed by not embracing C2 hybrids and PHEVs for Oakville. Equator & Equator Sport/ Territory for the new Escape and Edge plus Lincoln variants - four vehicles that hit at what could be very lucrative for Nth America as well as export to other regions. Thr Super Duty alternative was an easy go to but it concerns me that this may have been a knee jerk reaction when say, a global vehicle be that Utility or truck many have been a better choice…. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-dubz Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 25 minutes ago, Sherminator98 said: What are you going to do? Sell a product that sells to only 25% of the market or 75% of the market? Your automatically kneecapping yourself with sales chasing a sedan or a hatchback, at least in the NA market, but it appears that CUVs are becoming more popular in the EU now. Well let me clarify. I have no problem with truck and suv evs. What I am saying is don’t try to shoehorn them into some weird design that compromises their looks to make them better EVs. All the rivians, all the scouts, EV9, Slate, and lightning are good examples of how they should be done. This ford Aeros is an example of what not to do. On the truck side, here is an example of what not to do. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeluxeStang Posted April 26 Author Share Posted April 26 48 minutes ago, T-dubz said: Well let me clarify. I have no problem with truck and suv evs. What I am saying is don’t try to shoehorn them into some weird design that compromises their looks to make them better EVs. All the rivians, all the scouts, EV9, Slate, and lightning are good examples of how they should be done. This ford Aeros is an example of what not to do. On the truck side, here is an example of what not to do. I agree that picking inherently inefficient shapes and segments and then giving them ugly areo designs is the wrong play. But I don't hate that small truck design. I can't stand the way most cab forward trucks look, but they're very practical. If you see trucks as more of a commerical tool and less as a lifestyle item, I see the appeal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-dubz Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 56 minutes ago, DeluxeStang said: I agree that picking inherently inefficient shapes and segments and then giving them ugly areo designs is the wrong play. But I don't hate that small truck design. I can't stand the way most cab forward trucks look, but they're very practical. If you see trucks as more of a commerical tool and less as a lifestyle item, I see the appeal. Yeah for commercial purposes, the looks don’t matter as much as long as it gets the job done. If I had a farm or a large amount of land, I would consider a truck like this instead of a UTV. Unfortunately the Telo truck is pretty expensive starting at 41k. It’s already a tough sell with its looks, and even tougher with its price tag. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motorpsychology Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 The bullnose Aero is pretty cool, IMO It's different, but needs a real box, at least as an option. Otherwise, it will die on the vine. The OG '61 Falcon-based Econoline Pickup could be optioned out for a max 1670 payload in its 7ft bed. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeluxeStang Posted April 26 Author Share Posted April 26 8 hours ago, T-dubz said: Yeah for commercial purposes, the looks don’t matter as much as long as it gets the job done. If I had a farm or a large amount of land, I would consider a truck like this instead of a UTV. Unfortunately the Telo truck is pretty expensive starting at 41k. It’s already a tough sell with its looks, and even tougher with its price tag. 8 hours ago, T-dubz said: Yeah for commercial purposes, the looks don’t matter as much as long as it gets the job done. If I had a farm or a large amount of land, I would consider a truck like this instead of a UTV. Unfortunately the Telo truck is pretty expensive starting at 41k. It’s already a tough sell with its looks, and even tougher with its price tag. My thoughts exactly. Plus they gave it a ton of power and made it fast, which I kinda think was a mistake. I believe they should have stayed focused on making it a tool,and saved the millions spent to performance to instead make the truck more affordable for customers. Their approach kinda reminds me, and I can't remember the exact name, but I believe it was like Bollinger or something. Where that company was trying to appeal to commercial buyers, but the truck was insanely expensive. I remembered thinking "Who's gonna pay luxury truck money for a truck that looks like it was built in a shed from an unproven startup?" and the answer is, no-one lol. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oac98 Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 16 hours ago, jpd80 said: More than obvious that Ford obsessed on BEVs to the detriment of its profit earning Ford Blue and Ford Pro business, letting them chug along and hope the profits keep turning up… with sweet FA investment. I look back on the possibility of what was missed by not embracing C2 hybrids and PHEVs for Oakville. Equator & Equator Sport/ Territory for the new Escape and Edge plus Lincoln variants - four vehicles that hit at what could be very lucrative for Nth America as well as export to other regions. Thr Super Duty alternative was an easy go to but it concerns me that this may have been a knee jerk reaction when say, a global vehicle be that Utility or truck many have been a better choice…. I agree with you and truly believe that would’ve been a great plan. I always felt that all ford had to do was remake the edge and make it hybrid as they did with the nautilus and go with that but C2 would’ve been great. I was shocked in regards to the Super Duty announcement when it happened. Oakville will NEVER be the lead plant and is the third option behind Kentucky and Ohio. Anyways I’m glad to be going back to my job soon as it’s been two long years. I just hope ford gets it right with whatever forthcoming decisions they make overall for future products. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherminator98 Posted April 27 Share Posted April 27 I really do think the Oakville plant getting the SD is a fuck you to the UAW when contracts negotiations happen. It removes leverage that they might have had that would hurt the company. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oac98 Posted April 27 Share Posted April 27 36 minutes ago, Sherminator98 said: I really do think the Oakville plant getting the SD is a fuck you to the UAW when contracts negotiations happen. It removes leverage that they might have had that would hurt the company. I totally agree with you and believe that 100% Demand has to also be factored in too I suppose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherminator98 Posted April 27 Share Posted April 27 1 hour ago, Oac98 said: I totally agree with you and believe that 100% Demand has to also be factored in too I suppose. Yeah i'm sure that Ford saw that Ford Pro still has room to grow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeluxeStang Posted April 27 Author Share Posted April 27 3 hours ago, Sherminator98 said: I really do think the Oakville plant getting the SD is a fuck you to the UAW when contracts negotiations happen. It removes leverage that they might have had that would hurt the company. This is why I'm pro Union, but anti-union greed. It just results in those jobs going to other countries and fucks those workers over because union reps pushed for a 30% raise when the brand already agreed to a 12% raise. They push for more, and more, to unreasonable levels, until those brands say enough, and just lay off those workers. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oac98 Posted April 27 Share Posted April 27 8 hours ago, Sherminator98 said: Yeah i'm sure that Ford saw that Ford Pro still has room to grow Agreed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted April 29 Share Posted April 29 On 4/28/2026 at 7:36 AM, Oac98 said: Agreed I also hope that Ford realises that either full or CKD build of F150 at Oakville might be necessary to skip around unpleasantness like tariffs and what not. heck, even if it was same body with just a chassis change…. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oac98 Posted April 29 Share Posted April 29 (edited) 4 hours ago, jpd80 said: I also hope that Ford realises that either full or CKD build of F150 at Oakville might be necessary to skip around unpleasantness like tariffs and what not. heck, even if it was same body with just a chassis change…. I’ve heard people from Oakville suggest that’s what Ford should do. They sell 140000 F series a year in Canada as you know. How would that sit with the UAW? There is space for two stamping presses, one is installed and I was told the other one is in blueovalcity at the moment and they’re using it to help Oakville stamping as of now and obviously Buffalo stamping is making parts as well. The stamping plant will not be fully operational til later this year. What you’re saying is a great idea we will see what Ford plans to do. Our union contract is up this year so it’s negotiation time again. Edited April 29 by Oac98 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fordmantpw Posted April 29 Share Posted April 29 1 minute ago, Oac98 said: I’ve heard people from Oakville suggest that’s what Ford should do. They sell 140000 F series a year in Canada as you know. How would that sit with the UAW? There is space for two stamping presses, one is installed and I was told the other one is in blueovalcity at the moment and they’re using it to help Oakville stamping as of now and obviously Buffalo stamping is making parts as well. The stamping plant will not be fully operational til later this year. What you’re saying is a great idea we will see what Ford plans to do. Our union contract is up this year so it’s negotiation time again. Hopefully the union up there doesn't get as greedy as the UAW... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oac98 Posted April 29 Share Posted April 29 (edited) 13 hours ago, fordmantpw said: Hopefully the union up there doesn't get as greedy as the UAW... I’m not going to slander the uaw, our union is in a weaker position and a deal will easily be reached. Unifor is more cooperative I believe when it’s comes to negotiations. The longest strike I’ve seen was the one month strike at GM cami in 2017. Now the plant sits idle since GM Brightdrop failed miserably. Edited April 30 by Oac98 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzymoomoo Posted April 29 Share Posted April 29 On 4/15/2026 at 10:51 AM, BenKohnen said: Like, I remember how much it sucked getting into the 3rd row in a Flex for test drives.. Eh? You a bigger guy or something? I’ve never had a problem with it, ever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BenKohnen Posted April 29 Share Posted April 29 2 hours ago, fuzzymoomoo said: Eh? You a bigger guy or something? I’ve never had a problem with it, ever. Nope, 5'8". Back and knee issues ever since my Army days though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzymoomoo Posted April 30 Share Posted April 30 2 hours ago, BenKohnen said: Nope, 5'8". Back and knee issues ever since my Army days though. Probably should have included that. Sounds like Anything smaller than and Expedition or Suburban would probably give you trouble 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeluxeStang Posted April 30 Author Share Posted April 30 I was rewatching Ford's vid on the skunktruck trying to make out any additional details. I didn't notice much new, but I will say this, I grabbed a screenshot that I believe gives us the best idea of the trucks overall proportions and shape. It looks a lot better here than in some of the other screenshots I've seen online that frankly look pretty terrible, the ones where it makes the front look really round and bulky with massive overhangs and a super disproportionate cab to bed ratio. This looks a lot better than that does imo even if it's still just the aero lines. The front is still smooth looking, but has a more traditional boxy shape. I also like the proportions more here, it makes the bed look slightly longer than in some of the other images. The bed might be slightly longer than we think, and the truck might be more attractive than some of the aero stills online have made it out to be. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherminator98 Posted April 30 Share Posted April 30 7 hours ago, DeluxeStang said: The front is still smooth looking, but has a more traditional boxy shape. I also like the proportions more here, it makes the bed look slightly longer than in some of the other images. The bed might be slightly longer than we think, and the truck might be more attractive than some of the aero stills online have made it out to be. I think the bed (going by the above photo) is going to be roughly the same size as the Maverick, but the passenger cab/greenhouse is going to be larger. Also the patent drawings are going to be a very general approximation of it too-we just don't know how the surface detailing is going to look on it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted April 30 Share Posted April 30 22 minutes ago, Sherminator98 said: I think the bed (going by the above photo) is going to be roughly the same size as the Maverick, but the passenger cab/greenhouse is going to be larger. Also the patent drawings are going to be a very general approximation of it too-we just don't know how the surface detailing is going to look on it. Hopefully wit some type of midgate available for longer stuff. 4 feet is too small for hauling pipes or wood. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmc523 Posted April 30 Share Posted April 30 (edited) 9 hours ago, DeluxeStang said: I was rewatching Ford's vid on the skunktruck trying to make out any additional details. I didn't notice much new, but I will say this, I grabbed a screenshot that I believe gives us the best idea of the trucks overall proportions and shape. It looks a lot better here than in some of the other screenshots I've seen online that frankly look pretty terrible, the ones where it makes the front look really round and bulky with massive overhangs and a super disproportionate cab to bed ratio. This looks a lot better than that does imo even if it's still just the aero lines. The front is still smooth looking, but has a more traditional boxy shape. I also like the proportions more here, it makes the bed look slightly longer than in some of the other images. The bed might be slightly longer than we think, and the truck might be more attractive than some of the aero stills online have made it out to be. The way the rear of the cab interacts with the wheel is interesting......look at it compared to Maverick: That assumes that the area at his shoulder is actually the end of the cabin, of course. It's also possible that the CE1 truck has aero "buttresses" on the sides, and the bed itself goes further forward inside of the buttresses? 1 hour ago, akirby said: Hopefully wit some type of midgate available for longer stuff. 4 feet is too small for hauling pipes or wood. Borg claims that there's a lower panel midgate, and that the glass is fixed (sounds similar to how sedans fold the rear seat down) Edited April 30 by rmc523 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted April 30 Share Posted April 30 15 minutes ago, rmc523 said: Borg claims that there's a lower panel midgate, and that the glass is fixed (sounds similar to how sedans fold the rear seat down) That would work for most things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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