T-dubz Posted May 5 Share Posted May 5 (edited) Found this over at the rancheroforum where some people were given a behind the scenes tour of skunkworks. They were also given a 3d printed model (zoomed in below). They weren’t sure if this was a model of the production version or not. https://www.rancheroforum.com/forum/threads/ford-skunkworks-evdc-first-ever-behind-the-scenes-tour.15782/ Edited May 5 by Sherminator98 I pulled this out of the Ford under 40K thread since there was another article I was going to post from Car and Driver. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherminator98 Posted May 5 Share Posted May 5 https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a71204448/ford-ev-truck-future-details/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherminator98 Posted May 5 Share Posted May 5 5 minutes ago, T-dubz said: The styling is pretty conventional looking to me that we can see from the cover over it. I'm guessing that most of the aerodynamic improvements where with improving gap tolerances and underbody improvements Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherminator98 Posted May 5 Share Posted May 5 15 minutes ago, T-dubz said: https://www.rancheroforum.com/forum/threads/ford-skunkworks-evdc-first-ever-behind-the-scenes-tour.15782/ lots of good info there-it looks like its getting a 5 foot bed also and a new steering wheel that is similar to how Tesla does things with thumbwheels. Some complaining about the location of the charging port, that appears to be the rear left hand side instead of up front like Lightning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeluxeStang Posted May 5 Share Posted May 5 That first truck is definitely t3 imo. It's massive, and we see how it's about the same size as the lighting behind it. But I believe that's the skunk truck behind it, the much smaller, maverick sized shape under the sheet. I agree, it looks pretty conventional, which is the smart play imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZanatWork Posted May 5 Share Posted May 5 I'm hoping that the eventual appearance regains some of the simple, handsome, uncluttered styling that makes original Rangers and Bullnose F-Series look dutiful...and timeless. Most modern pickups to me look like there's a silent competition to put as many unnecessary styling elements in the grilles and inside the headlight assemblies as possible. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zestyg Posted May 5 Share Posted May 5 If it is an actual Ranger sized truck then that gives me a little bit of confidence because I was afraid it could just cannibalize Maverick sales. If they deliver on this, it could be a good conquest vehicle. Personally, I will just wait for the crossover that comes after. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeluxeStang Posted May 5 Share Posted May 5 4 minutes ago, Zestyg said: If it is an actual Ranger sized truck then that gives me a little bit of confidence because I was afraid it could just cannibalize Maverick sales. If they deliver on this, it could be a good conquest vehicle. Personally, I will just wait for the crossover that comes after. It's really hard to pin down the size of this thing because one minute, we get info that makes us believe it's ranger sized, the next, we believe it's maverick sized. Here's my guess. The roof appears to be about the height of a maverick. But the bed could be longer, we're speculating 5 ft now. Either the dimensions are very close to a maverick, and the bed is just bigger because the cab is pushed forward, or it's a case of like being the length of a ranger, but the height of a maverick, which could be interesting. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeluxeStang Posted May 5 Share Posted May 5 15 minutes ago, ZanatWork said: I'm hoping that the eventual appearance regains some of the simple, handsome, uncluttered styling that makes original Rangers and Bullnose F-Series look dutiful...and timeless. Most modern pickups to me look like there's a silent competition to put as many unnecessary styling elements in the grilles and inside the headlight assemblies as possible. From the very little we can see, the front ends are looking pretty good. A little aero focused, but nowhere near as radical and polarizing as many of us feared. You can definitely see things like the hood angling down, but in a traditional truck looking way. It's hard to tell, but the front fender looks like it has a little muscle to it. Like it's not full on slab sided. The more I see of this thing, the more I believe they didn't drop the ball on the styling, which was my biggest concern. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zestyg Posted May 5 Share Posted May 5 8 minutes ago, DeluxeStang said: It's really hard to pin down the size of this thing because one minute, we get info that makes us believe it's ranger sized, the next, we believe it's maverick sized. Here's my guess. The roof appears to be about the height of a maverick. But the bed could be longer, we're speculating 5 ft now. Either the dimensions are very close to a maverick, and the bed is just bigger because the cab is pushed forward, or it's a case of like being the length of a ranger, but the height of a maverick, which could be interesting. My thought is that an electrified, super-efficient packaging and capable Ranger that is fun to drive is a much better proposition for Ford’s lineup than an electric Maverick. It would face zero competition from anything anywhere and could conquer from numerous segments. It would also serve for its existing base better without having to directly compete with the F150 or Maverick except perhaps in fleet sales. The difference between the two vehicles in length is 5 inches, this limited leak reads more electric ranger to me. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeluxeStang Posted May 5 Share Posted May 5 It's giving me maverick meets mustang vibes. Like a sport truck. The aero line image make the front end often look very bubbly and rounded. The actual front end looks a bit blockier and more muscular, which is a huge relief. Just my crude analysis. You have a unibrow style line running across the leading edge of the hood, the hood angles up, and then levels off. There's another character line on the hood itself. Then you have the fender, and I've tried to depict the unique surfacing on the fender itself Overall, I'm excited if I'm reading this right. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zestyg Posted May 5 Share Posted May 5 It is promising either way since the styling won’t be botched. I do question what the hell the point of T3 was though if this was going on in parallel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bzcat Posted May 5 Share Posted May 5 Looks Maverick size to me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherminator98 Posted May 5 Share Posted May 5 Having the CE1 almost the same size as the Ranger puts a lot of pressure on whatever they are planning to do at TTP and how to make it different and cost effective. Not sure how that would work basically having a gas powered CE1 that is like the Ridgeline. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherminator98 Posted May 5 Share Posted May 5 13 minutes ago, Zestyg said: It is promising either way since the styling won’t be botched. I do question what the hell the point of T3 was though if this was going on in parallel. in a perfect world for EVs, the T3 would have replaced the ICE F-150. Instead I'm thinking what was learned with the T3 will be applied to the next gen F-150. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeluxeStang Posted May 5 Share Posted May 5 Per the car and driver article. There are now over 100 prototypes of the truck built and in active testing. Reporters actually saw a camo'd proto driving between a few of the buildings. They said it looked like a conventional truck more or less. If protos are testing in full force, I give it maybe a few weeks before we seem some pics. They were also shown 5 models, but under tarps. They said most appeared to be utilities, but one had a sedan/hatch shape, guessing the affordable performance sedan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeluxeStang Posted May 5 Share Posted May 5 They gave these models out, but they look a little crude. So I do hope this isn't showing the actual ratio of beltline to greenhouse. Other details like the curving roof aren't where so maybe this isn't it. The greenhouse of both the aero line pic and what's under the sheet looks taller relative to the beltline than what this is showing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmc523 Posted Tuesday at 06:39 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 06:39 PM 2 hours ago, DeluxeStang said: That first truck is definitely t3 imo. It's massive, and we see how it's about the same size as the lighting behind it. But I believe that's the skunk truck behind it, the much smaller, maverick sized shape under the sheet. I agree, it looks pretty conventional, which is the smart play imo. We must be looking a different photos then. Those are two of the same products.....if anything the front could be the truck, with the rear the crossover. Neither look huge, especially when you consider the Lightning in the background still clearly sits taller than them (you can see the top of Lightning's roof), which wouldn't happen if they were big (bigger foreground objects etc). 1 hour ago, Zestyg said: It is promising either way since the styling won’t be botched. I do question what the hell the point of T3 was though if this was going on in parallel. It was going to be F-150 sized. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmc523 Posted Tuesday at 06:44 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 06:44 PM 49 minutes ago, DeluxeStang said: They gave these models out, but they look a little crude. So I do hope this isn't showing the actual ratio of beltline to greenhouse. Other details like the curving roof aren't where so maybe this isn't it. The greenhouse of both the aero line pic and what's under the sheet looks taller relative to the beltline than what this is showing. I think this model was more to show the build process for the new EV setup, with a generic hint at cab/body shape.... Notice in the full case below it shows the 3 main structural components (front, middle, rear), and for simplicity, the body pops over (I was under the impression that the real setup will be basically 3 nearly-finished sections that come together). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joseodiaga4 Posted Tuesday at 07:00 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 07:00 PM 3 hours ago, T-dubz said: Found this over at the rancheroforum where some people were given a behind the scenes tour of skunkworks. They were also given a 3d printed model (zoomed in below). They weren’t sure if this was a model of the production version or not. https://www.rancheroforum.com/forum/threads/ford-skunkworks-evdc-first-ever-behind-the-scenes-tour.15782/ Seems to have some kind of Lidar sensor on the roof Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeluxeStang Posted Tuesday at 07:26 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 07:26 PM (edited) 35 minutes ago, joseodiaga4 said: Seems to have some kind of Lidar sensor on the roof Agreed. Edited Tuesday at 07:36 PM by DeluxeStang Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeluxeStang Posted Tuesday at 07:35 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 07:35 PM 52 minutes ago, rmc523 said: We must be looking a different photos then. Those are two of the same products.....if anything the front could be the truck, with the rear the crossover. Neither look huge, especially when you consider the Lightning in the background still clearly sits taller than them (you can see the top of Lightning's roof), which wouldn't happen if they were big (bigger foreground objects etc). You're right, I think I was stroking out. Just a combination of the photo being pretty close to the truck, but especially the width, it made me think it was bigger than it is, because that looks pretty darn wide. Then again, people who saw a prototype claimed it looked wide for the few seconds they saw it. That adds additional credibility to the idea that the direction ford could be taking with this thing is making it more of a lifestyle, almost muscle street truck or something. Low, wide, with more presence than a maverick, fast, etc. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmc523 Posted Tuesday at 07:41 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 07:41 PM (edited) 43 minutes ago, joseodiaga4 said: Seems to have some kind of Lidar sensor on the roof Yeah, I noticed that too, which is interesting considering this is supposed to be lower cost.....you'd think that'd be an expensive component to include.... I can't recall the proper levels of autonomous driving, but I thought that Farley said it wouldn't have one of the top levels of it, so it's surprising to potentially see lidar. 8 minutes ago, DeluxeStang said: You're right, I think I was stroking out. Just a combination of the photo being pretty close to the truck, but especially the width, it made me think it was bigger than it is, because that looks pretty darn wide. Then again, people who saw a prototype claimed it looked wide for the few seconds they saw it. That adds additional credibility to the idea that the direction ford could be taking with this thing is making it more of a lifestyle, almost muscle street truck or something. Low, wide, with more presence than a maverick, fast, etc. The styling elements seem to be more horizontally based (vs. F-series which has become more vertical with stacked lights, etc), which helps make it look wider than it may be. I may be seeing things, but I'm almost seeing an Explorer-style dip in the center of the hood: Edited Tuesday at 07:45 PM by rmc523 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zestyg Posted Tuesday at 07:51 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 07:51 PM 2 hours ago, Sherminator98 said: Having the CE1 almost the same size as the Ranger puts a lot of pressure on whatever they are planning to do at TTP and how to make it different and cost effective. Not sure how that would work basically having a gas powered CE1 that is like the Ridgeline. it doesn’t if they’re doing Bronco pickup there. Ford seems to currently be learning the hard way that their non-Bronco products don’t really compete for customers with their Bronco products (Baby Bronco totally failing to capture Escape customers). 1 hour ago, rmc523 said: We must be looking a different photos then. Those are two of the same products.....if anything the front could be the truck, with the rear the crossover. I hope the rear is the crossover I want to believe that jpd and BORG are wrong about it being so far away. If its like a more efficiently packaged EV Equinox I’d be sold. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted Tuesday at 08:32 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 08:32 PM 1 hour ago, rmc523 said: It was going to be F-150 sized. Smaller than F150 but larger than Ranger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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