Sherminator98 Posted May 6 Share Posted May 6 https://fordauthority.com/2026/05/global-ford-lineup-to-get-substantially-refreshed-by-2029/ Quote Specifically, 70 percent of the global Ford lineup is in line to receive some sort of refresh by 2029, the automaker recently announced. As part of those updates, 90 percent of Ford's vehicle lineup by volume will utilize some sort of updated electrical architecture, next-generation over-the-air update capability, and internally-developed user experiences and hardware. Additionally, 90 percent of the global Ford lineup will offer some sort of electrified powertrain option by 2030. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmc523 Posted May 6 Share Posted May 6 I'll believe it when I see it at this point, as Ford's had a lot of talk of future product with little results over the last few years. Also easy to refresh a higher percentage of the lineup when you just drop multiple products lol. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zestyg Posted May 6 Share Posted May 6 Does the guy who writes most of the ford authority post just run a bot or AI to regurgitate the same article a half dozen times? Or is this just what he does all day from roughly 8:00 am to 1:00 pm EST 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmc523 Posted May 6 Share Posted May 6 1 minute ago, Zestyg said: Does the guy who writes most of the ford authority post just run a bot or AI to regurgitate the same article a half dozen times? Or is this just what he does all day from roughly 8:00 am to 1:00 pm EST They do a lot of repeat articles like that. I take them for what they are - filler for traffic and folks that don't realize. It's still nice to have additional info. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted May 6 Share Posted May 6 I absolutely believe this is the current plan. I also believe Farley will dump it if something new and shiny comes across his desk. 7 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherminator98 Posted May 6 Author Share Posted May 6 15 minutes ago, rmc523 said: I'll believe it when I see it at this point, as Ford's had a lot of talk of future product with little results over the last few years. Also easy to refresh a higher percentage of the lineup when you just drop multiple products lol. I took it as existing products-we aren't getting anything "new" till the CE1 EV Truck hits IMO We still have lots of rumored new product that is supposed to come, but like you said, good luck with actually seeing them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzymoomoo Posted May 6 Share Posted May 6 34 minutes ago, Zestyg said: Does the guy who writes most of the ford authority post just run a bot or AI to regurgitate the same article a half dozen times? Or is this just what he does all day from roughly 8:00 am to 1:00 pm EST I don’t know but they’ll have more info soon so make sure you subscribe for updates 1 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zestyg Posted May 6 Share Posted May 6 26 minutes ago, fuzzymoomoo said: I don’t know but they’ll have more info soon so make sure you subscribe for updates I check it daily I accept it for what it is. Its also not weirdly anti-union like GM Authority. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmc523 Posted May 6 Share Posted May 6 58 minutes ago, Sherminator98 said: I took it as existing products-we aren't getting anything "new" till the CE1 EV Truck hits IMO We still have lots of rumored new product that is supposed to come, but like you said, good luck with actually seeing them. Oh i get that! Just saying even with refreshes, Ford has pushed them back before too... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bzcat Posted May 7 Share Posted May 7 70% of line up will get update in the next 3 years... is just business as usual at other car companies. But apparently it is a revolutionary idea at Ford 🤡 5 year model cycle is industry standard (except in China where it is 2 years max). So a competent car company should have 20% of its line up turn over each year. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeluxeStang Posted May 7 Share Posted May 7 So I'm guessing -Entirely new truck generations from maverick all the way to to super duty -Next gen bronco and BS -Maybe a second gen mach-e - Explorer and expedition - s750 mustang What else am I missing? Some stuff isn't getting refreshed by then and I'm guessing that's gonna be things like the the f-650 and e-series. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
morgan20 Posted May 7 Share Posted May 7 7 minutes ago, DeluxeStang said: What else am I missing? Just a guess - possible mid cycle enhancements in 2029 to the CE1 products that originally debut in 2027? I'm hopin' that the breakthrough processes associated with CE1 enable Ford to do refreshes of that sort much more frequently than the situation now, where creeping Ford rot on the vine disease (as twintornados accurately put it) is not uncommon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeluxeStang Posted May 7 Share Posted May 7 Just now, morgan20 said: Just a guess - possible mid cycle enhancements in 2029 to the CE1 products that originally debut in 2027? I'm hopin' that the breakthrough processes associated with CE1 enable Ford to do refreshes of that sort much more frequently than the situation now, where creeping Ford rot on the vine disease (as twintornados accurately put it) is not uncommon. Agreed. I actually wouldn't mind it if Ford came out with a series of class leading platforms that they kept around for a few decades, but just updated the top hats and features every 3-5 years. These super long cycle plans might be more profitable for Ford, but they aren't doing enthusiasts any favors. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texasota Posted May 7 Share Posted May 7 1 hour ago, bzcat said: 5 year model cycle is industry standard (except in China where it is 2 years max). So a competent car company should have 20% of its line up turn over each year. Not sure that is always necessary. Ford absolutely nailed the design/styling for the Bronco. It still looks fresh and is overtaking Jeep Wrangler sales. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeluxeStang Posted May 7 Share Posted May 7 8 minutes ago, Texasota said: Not sure that is always necessary. Ford absolutely nailed the design/styling for the Bronco. It still looks fresh and is overtaking Jeep Wrangler sales. I will say that's the positive thing about timeless design, and why for Ford's core icons like bronco and mustang I believe the priority should be finding a good balance between moving the look of a vehicle forward, and trying to make it look timeless. Designers of a next gen bronco or mustang should ask themselves "Is this design still gonna look great at a car show 50 years from now? If the answer is no, go with a different design. I personally believe as Ford's products become more varied, there's room for multiple different philosophies and approaches to product development. Like making their EVs more aero driven, maybe more futuristic and daring, pulling in some inspiration from the 80s and 90s design because that would lend itself to EVs pretty well and appeal to people who want to see 80s and 90s retro touches. But keeping the bronco and mustang 60s inspired, timeless, sharp, and undeniably American. That's the best approach, give some products shorter cycles, some longer. Shorter life cycles can have more daring and futuristic designs for people who want to see Ford take more styling risks, and ICE products can adopt more restrained designs for people who want Ford's to stick with their conservative design. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmc523 Posted May 7 Share Posted May 7 3 hours ago, DeluxeStang said: So I'm guessing -Entirely new truck generations from maverick all the way to to super duty -Next gen bronco and BS -Maybe a second gen mach-e - Explorer and expedition - s750 mustang What else am I missing? Some stuff isn't getting refreshed by then and I'm guessing that's gonna be things like the the f-650 and e-series. Let's see, the lineup is: Cars (1): Mustang Trucks (5): Maverick, Ranger, F-150, Super Duty, Heavy Trucks Vans (2): Transit, E-series SUVs (5): Bronco Sport, Mach-E, Bronco, Explorer, Expedition So, that's a total of 13 model lines, not including the new CE1 product or the mystery TTP truck. Reporting indicates that 80% of the NA lineup will be updated/refreshed, which would equal 10.4......so if you round down, that's 10, so we're looking for 3 lines to not get refreshed. Take out Heavy trucks and the two vans, and you're there, so basically everything gets updated.....even if you round up to 11, you could say Transit will get an update too, with Heavy Trucks and E-series soldiering on until who knows when......I mean E-series just got a massive update of the new grille insert, so it's good to go for another 10-15 years lol. 1 hour ago, Texasota said: Not sure that is always necessary. Ford absolutely nailed the design/styling for the Bronco. It still looks fresh and is overtaking Jeep Wrangler sales. Some segments accept longer lifecycles. That midsize 4x4 segment is one of them. Wrangler has long lifecycles, 4 Runner has had long lifecycles, and Bronco seems to be following that path. In other segments, it doesn't work. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeluxeStang Posted May 7 Share Posted May 7 1 hour ago, rmc523 said: Let's see, the lineup is: Cars (1): Mustang Trucks (5): Maverick, Ranger, F-150, Super Duty, Heavy Trucks Vans (2): Transit, E-series SUVs (5): Bronco Sport, Mach-E, Bronco, Explorer, Expedition So, that's a total of 13 model lines, not including the new CE1 product or the mystery TTP truck. Reporting indicates that 80% of the NA lineup will be updated/refreshed, which would equal 10.4......so if you round down, that's 10, so we're looking for 3 lines to not get refreshed. Take out Heavy trucks and the two vans, and you're there, so basically everything gets updated.....even if you round up to 11, you could say Transit will get an update too, with Heavy Trucks and E-series soldiering on until who knows when......I mean E-series just got a massive update of the new grille insert, so it's good to go for another 10-15 years lol. Some segments accept longer lifecycles. That midsize 4x4 segment is one of them. Wrangler has long lifecycles, 4 Runner has had long lifecycles, and Bronco seems to be following that path. In other segments, it doesn't work. Solid analysis. Basically enthusiast vehicles, truck elements, and conventional vehicle segments like explorer or expedition where updates are regularly needed to remain competitive. Update the lineup where you need to, where it matters, and where buyers will care. Leave it as it is for buyers who don't, or who even view updates as something dentrimental like e-series buyers who think having an outdated vehicle is key to it being reliable lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted May 8 Share Posted May 8 It’s easy to update 90% of you products when you only sell Ranger, Everest, Mustang and Transit Custom 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmc523 Posted May 8 Share Posted May 8 3 hours ago, jpd80 said: It’s easy to update 90% of you products when you only sell Ranger, Everest, Mustang and Transit Custom This too......cut yourself down so much to where there's not much left to update lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trader 10 Posted May 8 Share Posted May 8 Mach E probably isn’t long for this world, at least on its current platform. I don’t see Ford spending money to update it as it is now. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmc523 Posted May 8 Share Posted May 8 52 minutes ago, Trader 10 said: Mach E probably isn’t long for this world, at least on its current platform. I don’t see Ford spending money to update it as it is now. That's true - so maybe swap Mach-E with Transit getting updates? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted Friday at 08:40 PM Share Posted Friday at 08:40 PM 5 hours ago, rmc523 said: That's true - so maybe swap Mach-E with Transit getting updates? Surely, Mach E moves to CE1 for next product cycle, the cost benefits would be huge plis maybe an EREV version for those who still want ICE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted Friday at 08:55 PM Share Posted Friday at 08:55 PM (edited) 2 hours ago, jpd80 said: Surely, Mach E moves to CE1 for next product cycle, the cost benefits would be huge plis maybe an EREV version for those who still want ICE I think there will be a new Mach-E but after the ICE mustang sedan and suv and the other lower priced ce1 models. Edited Friday at 11:33 PM by akirby 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted Friday at 09:34 PM Share Posted Friday at 09:34 PM 36 minutes ago, akirby said: I think there will be a new Mach-E but after the sedan and suv and the other lower priced ce1 models. That would support the idea of Cuautitlan switching to CE1 /UEV plant at change of product cycle, thinking 2028 or maybe 2029. That would also free up a sizeable plant for multiple products while taking load off Louisville to do everything…. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeluxeStang Posted Friday at 11:49 PM Share Posted Friday at 11:49 PM 2 hours ago, jpd80 said: Surely, Mach E moves to CE1 for next product cycle, the cost benefits would be huge plis maybe an EREV version for those who still want ICE 2 hours ago, akirby said: I think there will be a new Mach-E but after the sedan and suv and the other lower priced ce1 models. A CE1 mach-e makes a lot of sense. But Explorerdude commenting on the next gen mach-e possibly becoming a gas powered performance crossover kinda muddies the waters. Maybe we'll see a ICE powered mustang utility, and a CE1 style mach-e replacement for people who still want that sort of vehicle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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