rmc523 Posted Wednesday at 03:34 PM Share Posted Wednesday at 03:34 PM Well, May was a bloodbath. Only 5 models had increases, everything else was down.... https://s205.q4cdn.com/882619693/files/doc_news/2026/Jun/03/Ford-U-S-May-2026-Sales-Release.pdf Bronco Sport isn't absorbing Escape sales....I guess they'll argue Explorer is doing better.... I guess Ford is content to just let Lincoln dealers lose all Corsair volume instead of bringing over the Chinese model... 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zestyg Posted Wednesday at 03:45 PM Share Posted Wednesday at 03:45 PM I picked a bad time to buy a share of Ford haha. It was only a tiny bit but I can at least hold out hope for a bump from more energy deals and UEV launch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twintornados Posted Wednesday at 03:53 PM Share Posted Wednesday at 03:53 PM 7 minutes ago, Zestyg said: I picked a bad time to buy a share of Ford haha. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zestyg Posted Wednesday at 04:11 PM Share Posted Wednesday at 04:11 PM 14 minutes ago, twintornados said: Well the underlying idea still is in play, if it drops back down to $14 I can buy more until Ford Energy shakes out. If I was holding for dividends I’d probably have bought GM lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twintornados Posted Wednesday at 04:21 PM Share Posted Wednesday at 04:21 PM Well, Ford's idea to sell all the boring Escape buyers a Bronco Sport was a bust...what is the current tariff rate to import from Spain? Asking for a friend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BenKohnen Posted Wednesday at 04:34 PM Share Posted Wednesday at 04:34 PM (edited) I'd love to know where the heck all those F-150's produced wound up. It's felt like they'd stopped building them, by measure of how many we're seeing coming in for inventory. Same with Mavericks. And frankly, Explorers. Rangers took a big dive because there's a stop-sale recall. I had one go out in April, our only Ranger sale for the year. Got three more on the lot... one is still sold, the other two have been sold and then backed out of because we couldn't deliver. One bought a Maverick, one bought something used private party. And agreed, Escape buyers aren't Bronco Sport buyers. Edge buyers are only marginally Explorer buyers, too. And neither one bit on the original plan of "have them buy a Mustang Mach-E". I've been seeing Escape and Edge owners just keeping theirs rather than replacing with a newer ride. Some are taking the jump, but not as much as usual. Edited Wednesday at 04:37 PM by BenKohnen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherminator98 Posted Wednesday at 05:12 PM Share Posted Wednesday at 05:12 PM 1 hour ago, Zestyg said: I picked a bad time to buy a share of Ford haha. It was only a tiny bit but I can at least hold out hope for a bump from more energy deals and UEV launch. I've been buying Ford stock for years now and it always seems to be bad time to buy it lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherminator98 Posted Wednesday at 05:13 PM Share Posted Wednesday at 05:13 PM 51 minutes ago, twintornados said: Well, Ford's idea to sell all the boring Escape buyers a Bronco Sport was a bust...what is the current tariff rate to import from Spain? Asking for a friend. Looks like the Escape is coming back in a couple of years based on the UEV platform according to Ford authority. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherminator98 Posted Wednesday at 05:13 PM Share Posted Wednesday at 05:13 PM I'm shocked at the bump in Mustang numbers-is it demand or more production, or just more incentives on them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmc523 Posted Wednesday at 05:52 PM Author Share Posted Wednesday at 05:52 PM 1 hour ago, BenKohnen said: I'd love to know where the heck all those F-150's produced wound up. It's felt like they'd stopped building them, by measure of how many we're seeing coming in for inventory. Same with Mavericks. And frankly, Explorers. Rangers took a big dive because there's a stop-sale recall. I had one go out in April, our only Ranger sale for the year. Got three more on the lot... one is still sold, the other two have been sold and then backed out of because we couldn't deliver. One bought a Maverick, one bought something used private party. And agreed, Escape buyers aren't Bronco Sport buyers. Edge buyers are only marginally Explorer buyers, too. And neither one bit on the original plan of "have them buy a Mustang Mach-E". I've been seeing Escape and Edge owners just keeping theirs rather than replacing with a newer ride. Some are taking the jump, but not as much as usual. I was curious about production numbers vs last year..... Here are last year's figures (2025): and this year (2026): F-150 Total (2025): 254,996 F-150 Total (2026): 237,367 Difference.................-17,629 Super Duty Total (2025): 163,511 Super Duty Total (2026): 140,404 Difference..........................-23,107 F-series Total (2025): 418,507 F-series Total (2026): 377,771 Difference...................-40,736 Sales are down 51,847 vs. last year 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zestyg Posted Wednesday at 05:56 PM Share Posted Wednesday at 05:56 PM 1 hour ago, BenKohnen said: And agreed, Escape buyers aren't Bronco Sport buyers. As an Escape buyer I think the issue is that most of us either were value buyers or really wanted more of a car. The Escape sold best when it was a great value deal. UEV with it being designed just for American needs (rather than being torn between America and Europe who saw it different ways) should be able to fix that. Personally I am probably more niche than most Escape buyers and could be in market for the skunk truck. 42 minutes ago, Sherminator98 said: I've been buying Ford stock for years now and it always seems to be bad time to buy it lol Yeah legacy auto stocks are good for dividends bad for most other things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fordmantpw Posted Wednesday at 06:04 PM Share Posted Wednesday at 06:04 PM 7 minutes ago, Zestyg said: As an Escape buyer I think the issue is that most of us either were value buyers or really wanted more of a car. The Escape sold best when it was a great value deal. Bingo! That's the reason the Escape was cancelled! Early on, it was a hot product because it was first to market. Toward the end of it's life, it's what people bought when they wanted a deal or a lot of car for the money. That meant Ford wasn't making much on it, so it got cancelled. That's what "boring" means. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mackinaw Posted Wednesday at 11:14 PM Share Posted Wednesday at 11:14 PM 5 hours ago, fordmantpw said: Bingo! That's the reason the Escape was cancelled! Early on, it was a hot product because it was first to market. Toward the end of it's life, it's what people bought when they wanted a deal or a lot of car for the money. That meant Ford wasn't making much on it, so it got cancelled. That's what "boring" means. Farley has said that the RAV 4 had a $4,000 cost advantage over the Escape. One reason why it was cancelled. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted Thursday at 05:33 AM Share Posted Thursday at 05:33 AM 11 hours ago, rmc523 said: I was curious about production numbers vs last year..... Here are last year's figures (2025): and this year (2026): F-150 Total (2025): 254,996 F-150 Total (2026): 237,367 Difference.................-17,629 Super Duty Total (2025): 163,511 Super Duty Total (2026): 140,404 Difference..........................-23,107 F-series Total (2025): 418,507 F-series Total (2026): 377,771 Difference...................-40,736 Sales are down 51,847 vs. last year Yes, Ford has really pumped the brakes on production, is all of that to do with aluminum supply being tight? Or is a fortunate overlap with softer sales and lower inventory (183k) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmc523 Posted Thursday at 12:45 PM Author Share Posted Thursday at 12:45 PM 7 hours ago, jpd80 said: Yes, Ford has really pumped the brakes on production, is all of that to do with aluminum supply being tight? Or is a fortunate overlap with softer sales and lower inventory (183k) Hard to say since we don't have GM/Ram truck numbers to compare to until the beginning of next month. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7Mary3 Posted Thursday at 05:10 PM Share Posted Thursday at 05:10 PM Hey, F-650/750 sales are up slightly! But at the pace they are going they won't break 10k sales this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted Thursday at 11:54 PM Share Posted Thursday at 11:54 PM (edited) 11 hours ago, rmc523 said: Hard to say since we don't have GM/Ram truck numbers to compare to until the beginning of next month. I thought as much but 69k for F Series in May is acceptable result given conditions The sales mix is always very profitable and so long as there are no expensive recalls then the profit will keep coming into Ford. Edited Thursday at 11:58 PM by jpd80 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zestyg Posted Friday at 12:50 AM Share Posted Friday at 12:50 AM On 6/3/2026 at 11:04 AM, fordmantpw said: Bingo! That's the reason the Escape was cancelled! Early on, it was a hot product because it was first to market. Toward the end of it's life, it's what people bought when they wanted a deal or a lot of car for the money. That meant Ford wasn't making much on it, so it got cancelled. That's what "boring" means. It seems they’d probably desire to make money on things like the Escape. Otherwise I can’t possibly imagine why they’d want to go back, because the Bronco Sport is just a better business to be in and better car. If they actually get that PHEV version one day it would be a slam dunk. They shouldn’t do this but IMO their lineup would make a lot more sense if they got a Focus/Fusion EV in 2029 rather than an Escape. Ford’s popularity in sedans was a lot deeper and more durable, i.e. people actually liked and wanted them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe771476 Posted Friday at 12:56 PM Share Posted Friday at 12:56 PM Gee, look at Edge and Escape unit sales. Farley says these vehicles didn't fit the brand image!? Then why do Ford's sales numbers keep dropping by double digits every month, quarter, year? The guy's a moron. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted Friday at 02:17 PM Share Posted Friday at 02:17 PM 1 hour ago, Joe771476 said: Gee, look at Edge and Escape unit sales. Farley says these vehicles didn't fit the brand image!? Then why do Ford's sales numbers keep dropping by double digits every month, quarter, year? The guy's a moron. Yet revenue and profit stays the same or goes up. That tells you everything you need to know about those vehicles. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trader 10 Posted Friday at 02:33 PM Share Posted Friday at 02:33 PM 15 minutes ago, akirby said: Yet revenue and profit stays the same or goes up. That tells you everything you need to know about those vehicles. It does regarding Escape but not Edge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
morgan20 Posted Friday at 02:41 PM Share Posted Friday at 02:41 PM (edited) 1 hour ago, Joe771476 said: Gee, look at Edge and Escape unit sales. Farley says these vehicles didn't fit the brand image!? Then why do Ford's sales numbers keep dropping by double digits every month, quarter, year? The guy's a moron. 24 minutes ago, akirby said: Yet revenue and profit stays the same or goes up. That tells you everything you need to know about those vehicles. Jimbo may have done some moronic things in his Ford career, but dumping boring anonymous unibody blob crossovers like Edge and Escape ain't one of them. To akirby's point, he understands that higher sales numbers do not necessarily indicate a healthy business, and that Ford is better off as a company embracing the no boring cars mantra even if it results in unit sales decline. Edited Friday at 02:41 PM by morgan20 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fordmantpw Posted Friday at 02:53 PM Share Posted Friday at 02:53 PM 19 minutes ago, Trader 10 said: It does regarding Escape but not Edge. Yeah, the Edge was a mistake, and Ford knows that. Had the 3-row BEV panned out, it would be a different story. On the flip side, there will be more profit from the Super Duty at OAC than Edge was generating. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
morgan20 Posted Friday at 03:09 PM Share Posted Friday at 03:09 PM 14 hours ago, Zestyg said: Ford’s popularity in sedans was a lot deeper and more durable, i.e. people actually liked and wanted them. Nah, people actually liked and wanted the rebates, discounts, and other deals that Ford and its dealers offered on their unibody sedans more than anything about the cars themselves, which were unremarkable. The Ford big shots absolutely did the right thing to exit the sedan segment back in 2020. That segment continues to decline to this day. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trader 10 Posted Friday at 03:27 PM Share Posted Friday at 03:27 PM 21 minutes ago, morgan20 said: Jimbo may have done some moronic things in his Ford career, but dumping boring anonymous unibody blob crossovers like Edge and Escape ain't one of them. To akirby's point, he understands that higher sales numbers do not necessarily indicate a healthy business, and that Ford is better off as a company embracing the no boring cars mantra even if it results in unit sales decline. Of course dumping the Edge was “moronic”. It was simply long in the tooth. A new Edge on C2 was needed. Instead it was dropped and the plant was reconfigured twice at a cost of hundreds of millions. Plus zero revenue for the past two years. It will take years for Ford to recoup those dollars making the Super Duty. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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