Zestyg Posted June 25 Share Posted June 25 2 minutes ago, Texasota said: Not if it’s based on the Ranger SD as ExplorerDude just told us. Yeah I misunderstood what he said. There is a lot of things flying around here. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmc523 Posted June 25 Share Posted June 25 12 minutes ago, Zestyg said: The TTP truck could be as big as or smaller than the Maverick, like the old Ford Ranger/Mazda B Series. That thing sold a fuckton until they let it rot. It could be incredibly cheap, like low-mid $20,000’s, and highly configurable. A gas version of the Slate truck but without the weird feitshism (crank windows, ECU sold separately, no infotainment). This would put the Maverick more focused towards retail, focused on replacing the Escape’s old volume (although with totally different customers than the Escape had). edit: looking at what ExplorerDude said to JPD, F-100 and/or Bronco Pickup with real towing chops. IDK if I hit the mark on what that means here, but I think that could work. I feel like a Bronco pickup would be more easily able to differentiate from the Maverick, Ranger, and Skunk Truck, but a F-100 could try to be really distinctive if it did what I describe above. I find it hard to believe they'd make money on that if they have trouble making money on products a segment bigger. Couple that with a mid-20s price tag and I don't know if that's viable........especially if you're trying to fill a plant with that alone.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texasota Posted June 25 Share Posted June 25 55 minutes ago, Sherminator98 said: The biggest advantage that the SD Ranger has over the F-150 is that it can carry more playload. Otherwise towing is identical (from what I can tell) with certain engine options on the 150. The Ranger SD towing maxes out at the low end of the F-150’s towing range. Slots very nicely. “The Ford Ranger Super Duty (SD) boasts a maximum braked towing capacity of 4.5 metric tonnes (approx. 9,920 lbs)” “The Ford F-150 towing capacity ranges from 8,200 to 13,500 lbs, depending on the engine, cab configuration, and drivetrain” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeluxeStang Posted June 25 Author Share Posted June 25 11 minutes ago, morgan20 said: Yea, exactly. Hopefully around that time a proper, great lookin' pure electric successor to MME is released too. I hope so as well. Even if they decide to give the mustang branding to a gas powered crossover, some sort a mach-e style EV would be awesome to keep around. I keep pushing for Ford to bring back the Galaxie name. I think that name would suit a sporty EV well. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted June 25 Share Posted June 25 (edited) 6 hours ago, akirby said: I think it's clear that outside of Raptors Ranger doesn't have big margins. I assume that whatever version TTP builds will have a much lower cost and will eventually be rolled out to other Ranger plants. I also expect more commercial fleet sales and more cab/bed options. I see it now, a future Bronco pickup would integrate perfectly with existing Bronco SUV trim levels and option packages where Ranger looks odd man out. Explorer Dude suggestion that Michigan plant becomes exclusively Bronco pickup/SUVs and Lincoln Bronco makes a lot of sense with higher $$ product mix and streamline parts delivery plus more common body stamping Moving Ranger to TPP and making it a newer slightly larger more capable vehicle sends a strong message to GM and Toyota thst Ford wants more of that sub F150 market and branding it as an F truck is a big marketing advantage Edited June 25 by jpd80 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texasota Posted June 25 Share Posted June 25 Back in March there was a lot of press about Farley’s visit to Australia and a multi-billion dollar commitment to future products. https://www.fromtheroad.ford.com/us/en/articles/2026/jim-farley-australia-road-trip It would make sense that Ford’s Australian design/engineering team will take a major (likely lead) role in the TTP new truck. JP @jpd80, any more tidbits you can share? This discussion/news dovetails nicely with what you told us a few months ago about Ranger not going away but morphing into something new/enhanced. As a huge Ranger fan the anticipation is killing me! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted June 26 Share Posted June 26 On 6/26/2026 at 6:23 AM, Texasota said: Back in March there was a lot of press about Farley’s visit to Australia and a multi-billion dollar commitment to future products. https://www.fromtheroad.ford.com/us/en/articles/2026/jim-farley-australia-road-trip It would make sense that Ford’s Australian design/engineering team will take a major (likely lead) role in the TTP new truck. JP @jpd80, any more tidbits you can share? This discussion/news dovetails nicely with what you told us a few months ago about Ranger not going away but morphing into something new/enhanced. As a huge Ranger fan the anticipation is killing me! No, sorry they’re tight as a drum on info. There were reports of a pickup at the testing grounds but those thst saw it thought it was smaller like Maverick size but nothing came from those leads Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texasota Posted June 26 Share Posted June 26 3 hours ago, jpd80 said: No, sorry they’re tight as a drum on info. There were reports of a pickup at the testing grounds but those thst saw it thought it was smaller like Maverick size but nothing came from those leads Thanks, JP. I think I'm getting better at reading your understated hints and nudges. Really glad you're here. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texasota Posted June 27 Share Posted June 27 Any thoughts on the F-100 getting aluminum body panels like the F-150? It would have the advantage of offsetting the increased weight of the Ranger SD underpinnings but the additional cost and supply issues of the aluminum probably dictates it will have steel like Rangers. Also wondering if this F-100 truck will be for North America only or will it be global? I would guess that if it goes global, then it will still be called Ranger for ROW. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted June 27 Share Posted June 27 (edited) 22 hours ago, Texasota said: Any thoughts on the F-100 getting aluminum body panels like the F-150? It would have the advantage of offsetting the increased weight of the Ranger SD underpinnings but the additional cost and supply issues of the aluminum probably dictates it will have steel like Rangers. The thing that struck me about Ranger Super Duty is that the track width is near on identical to F150, even with the 8 lug wheels… With regards an alloy body, if this project becomes an F Series truck then I could see it getting a version of the F Series alloy cab, hood, and rear tray….I concede that it may be easier to widen the T6 steel body but imagine the transformation with F Series body, the bits we see.. 22 hours ago, Texasota said: Also wondering if this F-100 truck will be for North America only or will it be global? I would guess that if it goes global, then it will still be called Ranger for ROW. Again, no idea but if it’s what I suspect it will be too good to not share globally… Edited June 27 by jpd80 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherminator98 Posted June 27 Share Posted June 27 From what I saw, I thought the Ranger SD was using the same axles from the F-250. Another part to this puzzle, I’m guessing those clay models we saw a few months ago of a pickup was an early styling buck for this product too. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted June 27 Share Posted June 27 (edited) 2 hours ago, Sherminator98 said: From what I saw, I thought the Ranger SD was using the same axles from the F-250. correct, my point being the track is near on identical to F150 and F250 from whence the axles came. If Ford USA is formulating a new truck, it could either axle set. 2 hours ago, Sherminator98 said: Another part to this puzzle, I’m guessing those clay models we saw a few months ago of a pickup was an early styling buck for this product too. Indeed, I think the change in parts sets will move the needle significantly. (Ford looking at an F Truck branded sales solution to the Tacoma?) Edited June 27 by jpd80 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted June 27 Share Posted June 27 (edited) Currently, converting F150 to RHD post factory results in a vehicle that’s about $30,000 more expensive than Ranger Super Duty. Globally, emissions and fuel economy are driving Ford for solutions that seem to be driving the popular diesel Ranger to extinction in the next 4-5 years. A bigger heavier RSD or F100 steps outside of that legal frame work and probably justifies the effort - the side benefit is a perfect match for what Ford USA wants just below F150. Edited June 27 by jpd80 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texasota Posted June 28 Share Posted June 28 (edited) 2 hours ago, jpd80 said: correct, my point being the track is near on identical to F150 and F250 from whence the axles came. If Ford USA is formulating a new truck, it could either axle set. Would you anticipate the F-100 to also have a lighter duty version for customers that don’t need the ~4000 lb payload capability? Or do you see Ford pointing that customer set to the Bronco pickup? Edited June 28 by Texasota Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted June 28 Share Posted June 28 3 hours ago, Texasota said: Would you anticipate the F-100 to also have a lighter duty version for customers that don’t need the ~4000 lb payload capability? Or do you see Ford pointing that customer set to the Bronco pickup? To me it seems like reworking and rebranding of T6 Ranger and SD but I could be 180 wrong on the exact details… 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texasota Posted June 28 Share Posted June 28 9 hours ago, jpd80 said: To me it seems like reworking and rebranding of T6 Ranger and SD but I could be 180 wrong on the exact details… That makes sense. Similar to the F-150 and SuperDuty we would have F-100 and F-100 SD. This sounds awesome except for the long wait for it to arrive (2029ish). Any guesses on power trains? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted June 28 Share Posted June 28 7 hours ago, Texasota said: That makes sense. Similar to the F-150 and SuperDuty we would have F-100 and F-100 SD. This sounds awesome except for the long wait for it to arrive (2029ish). Any guesses on power trains? With an entire factory to fill out I would not be surprised to see regular and supercabs along with long and short beds. Lower build cost should allow profits even on fleet sales. If true then I would expect either a 1.5 or 2.0 eb base engine. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texasota Posted June 29 Share Posted June 29 1 hour ago, akirby said: With an entire factory to fill out I would not be surprised to see regular and supercabs along with long and short beds. Lower build cost should allow profits even on fleet sales. If true then I would expect either a 1.5 or 2.0 eb base engine. Hmm, if these trucks are BOF and Ranger+ sized why would it have a base engine less capable than today's North American Ranger (the 2.3 Ecoboost)? Or are you suggesting the 1.5/2.0 would be a fleet base engine? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted June 29 Share Posted June 29 2 hours ago, Texasota said: Hmm, if these trucks are BOF and Ranger+ sized why would it have a base engine less capable than today's North American Ranger (the 2.3 Ecoboost)? Or are you suggesting the 1.5/2.0 would be a fleet base engine? Cost. Think reg cab XL model. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherminator98 Posted June 29 Share Posted June 29 12 hours ago, akirby said: With an entire factory to fill out I would not be surprised to see regular and supercabs along with long and short beds. Lower build cost should allow profits even on fleet sales. If true then I would expect either a 1.5 or 2.0 eb base engine. I'd doubt we'd see a 1.5L in a RWD application, so the 2.0L would be the bare minimum for something like this. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trader 10 Posted June 29 Share Posted June 29 8 hours ago, akirby said: Cost. Think reg cab XL model. I doubt the 2.3 costs much, if any, more than the 2.0 to build. The 2.0 probably will add a mile or two more EPA mileage rating. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmc523 Posted June 29 Share Posted June 29 On 6/27/2026 at 4:00 PM, Sherminator98 said: From what I saw, I thought the Ranger SD was using the same axles from the F-250. Another part to this puzzle, I’m guessing those clay models we saw a few months ago of a pickup was an early styling buck for this product too. Which ones are you talking about? I'm not remembering.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted June 29 Share Posted June 29 3 hours ago, Trader 10 said: I doubt the 2.3 costs much, if any, more than the 2.0 to build. The 2.0 probably will add a mile or two more EPA mileage rating. More marketing than actual cost savings. Allows them to charge more for the 2.3L. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texasota Posted June 29 Share Posted June 29 My guess for North American F-100 power trains is the same as current Ranger: - 2.3 Ecoboost - 2.7 Ecoboost - 3.0 Ecoboost (F-100 Raptor) Plus these possible new additions: - 2.3 Powerboost hybrid (likely) - 2.3 PHEV/EREV (less likely) - 2.0 Ecoboost maybe for fleet/base Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherminator98 Posted June 29 Share Posted June 29 4 hours ago, rmc523 said: Which ones are you talking about? I'm not remembering.... https://fordauthority.com/2025/11/ford-scrubs-images-of-clay-models-at-new-hq-from-media-site/ I'm thinking the vehicle to the left is an early styling clay model of this rumored vehicle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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