Broncofan7 Posted September 22 Share Posted September 22 For some comparison, GM has released many 2027 truck updates' specs: Midsize: News: The 2027 Chevy Colorado & Canyon Midsize Trucks Will Be the Most Powerful in Their Class (with One Exception) - The Fast Lane Truck Half-Ton: Video: The 2027 Chevy Silverado 1500 & Sierra 1500 Show Off New Class-Leading V8 Engines - The Fast Lane Truck HDs: GM's All-New 8.3L Duramax Is Real, And It's Called the 'Mongoose': Here's Everything You Need to Know! - The Fast Lane Truck How do you think Ford will respond? Or should they? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted September 22 Share Posted September 22 16 minutes ago, Broncofan7 said: Midsize: News: The 2027 Chevy Colorado & Canyon Midsize Trucks Will Be the Most Powerful in Their Class (with One Exception) - The Fast Lane Truck Fake news! They haven't confirmed whether Canyorado gets the new 2.7L and even with it Ranger Raptor still has more power (that's the exception). Clickbait. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherminator98 Posted September 22 Share Posted September 22 8 hours ago, akirby said: Fake news! They haven't confirmed whether Canyorado gets the new 2.7L and even with it Ranger Raptor still has more power (that's the exception). Clickbait. https://fordauthority.com/2026/09/ford-ranger-gets-significantly-outgunned-by-gms-2027-midsize-pickups/ Quote Both the 2027 Chevy Colorado and GMC Canyon are getting the new, L4B version of the turbocharged 2.7L I-4 engine, replacing the outgoing L3B. Now, output figures have been released for that engine - the sole offering for the new model year - and it comes in at 350 horsepower and 455 pound-feet of torque - increases of 40 horsepower and 25 pound-feet over the outgoing model. That's also 35 horsepower and 55 pound-feet more than the most potent Ford Ranger one can buy at the moment. What's particularly interesting about those figures is the fact that they're identical to the output of the L4B engine present as the standard engine in the new Silverado and Sierra, too. However, the mid-sizers come with GM's eight-speed automatic transmission, while the full-size trucks get the 10-speed automatic. Also interesting is the fact that max payload and towing remain unchanged from 2026, in spite of this power increase - with towing topping out at 7,700 pounds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fordmantpw Posted September 22 Share Posted September 22 Well, you can get a Ranger Raptor with 405 HP and 430 ft-lbs of torque, so that's 55 HP more than the GM. The torque figure is pretty impressive in the GM though. I still question, is that much necessary in a small pickup? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted September 22 Share Posted September 22 I was going by the original article that said IF they offer the new one in Canyorado so they weren't sure. But 405 is way more hp than 350 and claiming something is the most powerful except for this other one is the epitome of stupid reporting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmc523 Posted September 22 Share Posted September 22 (edited) 11 hours ago, Broncofan7 said: For some comparison, GM has released many 2027 truck updates' specs: Midsize: News: The 2027 Chevy Colorado & Canyon Midsize Trucks Will Be the Most Powerful in Their Class (with One Exception) - The Fast Lane Truck Half-Ton: Video: The 2027 Chevy Silverado 1500 & Sierra 1500 Show Off New Class-Leading V8 Engines - The Fast Lane Truck HDs: GM's All-New 8.3L Duramax Is Real, And It's Called the 'Mongoose': Here's Everything You Need to Know! - The Fast Lane Truck How do you think Ford will respond? Or should they? They'll "respond" with a new F-150 (2028?), followed by new Super Duty (2029?), and "F-100" (2029-2030???). I don't really see them doing much until then aside from tinkering with packages like we saw with new base Raptor trims and stuff like that. Edited September 22 by rmc523 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted September 22 Share Posted September 22 So the 5.7 has 402/428 while Ford's lowly 5.0 has 400/410 with less displacement. And they have 5.0 versions with 480 and 500hp in the mustang. Not impressed. And the 6.6 seems totally unnecessary in a half ton (as would the ford 6.8) and just seems to be for bragging rights. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fordmantpw Posted September 22 Share Posted September 22 1 hour ago, akirby said: So the 5.7 has 402/428 while Ford's lowly 5.0 has 400/410 with less displacement. And they have 5.0 versions with 480 and 500hp in the mustang. Not impressed. And the 6.6 seems totally unnecessary in a half ton (as would the ford 6.8) and just seems to be for bragging rights. Agreed with all that. But, a 2.7L I4 with 355/455 is pretty impressive. That's more torque (and 130 more HP) than a 7.3L '97 PowerStroke diesel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherminator98 Posted September 22 Share Posted September 22 Just now, fordmantpw said: Agreed with all that. But, a 2.7L I4 with 355/455 is pretty impressive. That's more torque (and 130 more HP) than a 7.3L '97 PowerStroke diesel. I wonder how much Ford has left in the 2.3L MPC Ecoboost, in the Mustang, it makes 315HP/350 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted September 22 Share Posted September 22 3 hours ago, fordmantpw said: Agreed with all that. But, a 2.7L I4 with 355/455 is pretty impressive. That's more torque (and 130 more HP) than a 7.3L '97 PowerStroke diesel. I assume the larger pistons deliver more torque but can't rev as high as the ecoboost 2.7 V6 with smaller pistons. Not a bad tradeoff for a truck engine. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted September 22 Share Posted September 22 3 hours ago, Sherminator98 said: I wonder how much Ford has left in the 2.3L MPC Ecoboost, in the Mustang, it makes 315HP/350 310 hp (231 kW; 314 PS) at 5500 rpm, 320–350 lb⋅ft (434–475 N⋅m) at 3000 rpm, 9.5:1 compression ratio 2015–2023 Ford Mustang EcoBoost (S550) 330 hp (246 kW; 335 PS) at 6000 rpm, 350 lb⋅ft (475 N⋅m) at 3000 rpm, 9.37:1 compression ratio 2020–2023 Ford Mustang EcoBoost Performance Package[63] 350 hp (261 kW; 355 PS) at 6000 rpm, 350 lb⋅ft (475 N⋅m) at 3200 rpm 2016–2018 Ford Focus RS[64][65][66] 2016–2017 Zenos E10 R[67] 2017–present Elemental RP1[68] 325–405 hp (242–302 kW; 330–411 PS) at 6000 rpm, 317–369 lb⋅ft (430–500 N⋅m) at 3200 rpm 2019–present VUHL 05 RR[69][70][71] 395 hp (295 kW; 400 PS) at 6200 rpm, 369 lb⋅ft (500 N⋅m) at 3000-3500 rpm 2017–present Dallara Stradale[72] 493 hp (368 kW; 500 PS), 516 lb⋅ft (700 N⋅m) 2021–present Dallara Stradale EXP[73] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherminator98 Posted September 23 Share Posted September 23 17 hours ago, akirby said: 310 hp (231 kW; 314 PS) at 5500 rpm, 320–350 lb⋅ft (434–475 N⋅m) at 3000 rpm, 9.5:1 compression ratio 2015–2023 Ford Mustang EcoBoost (S550) 330 hp (246 kW; 335 PS) at 6000 rpm, 350 lb⋅ft (475 N⋅m) at 3000 rpm, 9.37:1 compression ratio 2020–2023 Ford Mustang EcoBoost Performance Package[63] 350 hp (261 kW; 355 PS) at 6000 rpm, 350 lb⋅ft (475 N⋅m) at 3200 rpm 2016–2018 Ford Focus RS[64][65][66] 2016–2017 Zenos E10 R[67] 2017–present Elemental RP1[68] 325–405 hp (242–302 kW; 330–411 PS) at 6000 rpm, 317–369 lb⋅ft (430–500 N⋅m) at 3200 rpm 2019–present VUHL 05 RR[69][70][71] 395 hp (295 kW; 400 PS) at 6200 rpm, 369 lb⋅ft (500 N⋅m) at 3000-3500 rpm 2017–present Dallara Stradale[72] 493 hp (368 kW; 500 PS), 516 lb⋅ft (700 N⋅m) 2021–present Dallara Stradale EXP[73] Yeah but those higher strung engines in a performance vehicle might not translate well to every day use as a truck motor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HotRunrGuy Posted September 23 Share Posted September 23 23 hours ago, akirby said: I was going by the original article that said IF they offer the new one in Canyorado so they weren't sure. But 405 is way more hp than 350 and claiming something is the most powerful except for this other one is the epitome of stupid reporting. The 2027 Order Guide is still showing 310hp for both the Colorado & Canyon. HRG 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmc523 Posted September 23 Share Posted September 23 The 2027 GMC Sierra's Camera System Sees Almost Everything - Autoblog I wouldn't mind seeing more camera angles offered on the trucks and Bronco like GM does. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted September 23 Share Posted September 23 56 minutes ago, rmc523 said: The 2027 GMC Sierra's Camera System Sees Almost Everything - Autoblog I wouldn't mind seeing more camera angles offered on the trucks and Bronco like GM does. A few more would be nice but 19 seems like overkill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmc523 Posted September 23 Share Posted September 23 (edited) 59 minutes ago, akirby said: A few more would be nice but 19 seems like overkill Sure. I didn't read about where they all are.....I wonder if it was 19 views (meaning one camera, but fish eye vs. zoom vs. normal = 3?)? For instance, on Bronco, there are certain camera views that are only available in rock mode. Like why? just give me access regardless of drive mode.... Edited September 23 by rmc523 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted September 23 Share Posted September 23 1 hour ago, rmc523 said: Sure. I didn't read about where they all are.....I wonder if it was 19 views (meaning one camera, but fish eye vs. zoom vs. normal = 3?)? For instance, on Bronco, there are certain camera views that are only available in rock mode. Like why? just give me access regardless of drive mode.... Rear Camera View Rear Top-Down View Rear Side View Hitch View Front Camera View Front Top-Down View Front Side View Cabin Glance View Bed View Front Underbody Camera Rear Underbody Camera Rear Trailer View with Trailer Angle Indicator Rear Side View with Trailer Biasing Picture-in-Picture Side View Transparent Trailer View Inside Trailer View Surround View Turn Signal Activated View Rear Camera Mirror Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmc523 Posted September 24 Share Posted September 24 15 hours ago, akirby said: Rear Camera View Rear Top-Down View Rear Side View Hitch View Front Camera View Front Top-Down View Front Side View Cabin Glance View Bed View Front Underbody Camera Rear Underbody Camera Rear Trailer View with Trailer Angle Indicator Rear Side View with Trailer Biasing Picture-in-Picture Side View Transparent Trailer View Inside Trailer View Surround View Turn Signal Activated View Rear Camera Mirror That doesn't necessarily directly answer my question (I don't think we know). From the descriptions, it sounds like it may use a few cameras for multiple of those views......so just because there are 19 "views" doesn't mean there's 19 cameras. Similar to how Ford uses the rear camera to do backup plus overhead 360 view plus a towing zoom.....3 views off 1 camera. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted September 24 Share Posted September 24 46 minutes ago, rmc523 said: That doesn't necessarily directly answer my question (I don't think we know). From the descriptions, it sounds like it may use a few cameras for multiple of those views......so just because there are 19 "views" doesn't mean there's 19 cameras. Similar to how Ford uses the rear camera to do backup plus overhead 360 view plus a towing zoom.....3 views off 1 camera. 19 views, 11 cameras including 2 underbody. Way too many when only 3 or 4 will actually get used. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmc523 Posted September 24 Share Posted September 24 1 hour ago, akirby said: 19 views, 11 cameras including 2 underbody. Way too many when only 3 or 4 will actually get used. I could see 8 cameras making sense: Front Left side Right side Tailgate backup Rear cab (bed) Rear cab (mirror) Under body (front) Under body (rear) Not sure where the other three would be? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted September 24 Share Posted September 24 Front Rear cab, Rear tailgate left front, left rear right front, right rear underbody front, underbody rear not sure what additional cameras would be used for Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
92LX302 Posted September 25 Share Posted September 25 Ford would start by offering 19 views at launch but only have 4 left by the end of the model run. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danglin Posted September 25 Share Posted September 25 11 hours ago, 92LX302 said: Ford would start by offering 19 views at launch but only have 1 left by the end of the model run. FIFY Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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