Blueblood
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Isn't the MKT based off the Explorer already since they are all D3?
Anyways, it's just the new MKX, well at least the baleen front clip was attached to a Edge/MKX body.
On another note, I hope the production Explorer handles better than this test mule!!!
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You're absolutely certain?
Well that's what Mulally said....
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Goodbye egg crate grill..
Hello Baleen whale monstrosity..Haven't seen or heard anything about an upgrade 3.5 in the Edge, hopefully it gets the same TiVCT and about 290 horsepower, no need for a face only a mother whale could love.
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I had a Lincoln LS with manual shift gate and liked it for the most part. But I like the idea of just pressing a button without moving the entire shifter. Never really liked the wheel mounted paddle shifters outside of racing where you need to keep both hands on the wheel.
I think Ford is simply trying some new ergonomics here. We'll have to wait for test drives to see how it works. It sure is a lot simpler than having the shifter move back and forth.
Definitely better to keep both hands on the wheel while driving the canyons, fiddling around with a little button on the shifter makes it almost pointless.. Give me the paddles that everyone else uses.
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I'll take one of these with a 300+ HP 2.5" Ecoboost and AWD, make mine with the Ken Block appearance package..
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I think the power numbers are BS, I think they aren't going to release the actual numbers until it's about to go on sale, they've been sandbagging since the 99 Cobra fiasco.
From Ford's press release "The new 2.0-liter DI Ti-VCT engine is up to 20 horsepower more powerful than the current 2.0 Duratec I-4 unit while contributing to projected fuel economy gains of more than 10 percent."
That would put it at 163, and I bet we'll see more, there's just no way an all-new engine with TiVCT, 12:1 compression vs. 10:1 and direct injection only makes 12 horsepower more, and nothing but a tiny 9lb. bump in torque.
At the same output as the Coyote it would make about 165 horsepower, and that's without DI, or looking at the friction gains that a 4 cylinder has.
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This from an insider
"Where does it say that that the Falcon MUST be a large RWD sedan?
Would a midsize RWD sedan interest anyone? Maybe with a 430hp twin turbo 4.0L V8 in GT guise? Then with the Taurus slotting on top of it... and maybe a luxury Lincoln for US consumption?"
Yes, I don't care what size it is, as long as it's driven by the proper wheels, Ford needs a RWD sedan, period, especially if they want Lincoln to be a serious luxury player.
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Well I knew this was coming a long LONG time ago. It had to happen either way.
The Taurus is much better than a Camry btw.
No it did NOT have to happen, that's just retarded, not every Ford has to be the same car built off the same platform, there's comes a point where cost cutting cuts into your profits because people aren't willing to buy what you're selling.
And yes the Taurus is better than a Camry, but certainly not even close to a Falcon, it's a completely different car.
What Ford needs is a global RWD platform that can underpin the Mustang/Falcon/Territory/several Lincoln's/Explorer etc.
If Ford is attempting build the best, trying to build everything off of inferior 80's minded FWD only platforms isn't the way to do so, like I've always said, if I wanted to buy a Toyota I'd buy one. RWD isn't a "niche", and it doesn't equal poor economy, the 30mpg 305 horse 2011 Mustang V6 proves that.
Holden will be the biggest beneficiary of this error, as long as they don't surrender to the bean counters as well.
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Isn't the new Buick Regal with optional 2.0 DI and Turbo charged advertising 220 HP and 258 TQ on 87?
The Regal GS with 2.0 DI and some more boost is advertised at 255 HP and 295 TQ.......according to my Auto Week that came today.
What the Explorer delivers is dependent on how much boost they want to give it. They can make it about anything they want....depending on how long they want it to last. Less is fine with me. You can't wear out a 4.0, so hopefully they build this one good also.
The 2.0L ecotec 4 makes 260/260, 255/295 in the Regal GS, I think there's lesser version too. So if Ford's touted ecoboost 4 can only muster 208 horsepower it wold be quite a letdown.
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OK. Why didn't you just say that in first place?
I'm in shock, I've been waiting for us to get the global Focus for 5-6 years now?
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Basically right now I'm wondering just what on Earth I'm looking at, a mish-mash of of radically different styling elements, no 3 door, horrid taillights on the hatch, and anemic numbers for the DI TiVCT 4. Awesome interior though.
I guess I'll just stay with the Mustangs from now on, the V6 is only 21k anyways..
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Forget it, no longer care..
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And this concludes another episode of "Richard Making Friends".
Richard, you would fit right in over at the "Employee Forum". :reading:
Lighten up a little and stop attacking so much.
It's amazing how quick some fly off the handle here!
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Mondeo interior feels every bit as massive as Taurus and Falcon inside, the canopy has a big effect
on the spacious feel inside. Not knocking the Fusion but it does feel like a Mazda 6, a tad smaller.
I wonder whether the combined Fusion/Mondeo will go for a shorter wheelbase or stick with 112.2".
The interior space of the next generation Fusion/Mondeo may well approach that of Taurus and Falcon,
what an interesting dilemma that would be for Ford.
That's interesting considering at the LA auto show last month I had much more room in every dimension in the Fusion over the Taurus/MKS.
That tall seating position with the new roof really does a bad job on interior space. I'm 6'1" and in the backseat of the MKS my head hits the roof, and there's no leg/foot-room whatsoever. Plenty of space in the Fusion. I think the D3 has a short wheelbase for a car of it's size which doesn't help..
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1) I doubt it, and 2) the Focus was slowly decontented, it wasn't at first.
Correct, and as the years went by it was further cheapened/decontented, while the opposite happened in Europe.
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GM's had as many CEOs in the past year as Ford has had in the past 10...
I'm not saying it is a Mustang, but I showed a picture of a MUSTANG with the same exact wheels....
Those are NOT Fusion wheels, they are the 18" fanblades off the Mustang.
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I am still amazed how Ford has managed to keep this car under wraps right up until the last minute. I imagine since it is still a year out there are not as many road prototypes out there to be caught, but still... usually Priddy & Co get someone to spill the beans (or at this point in the game one of the over-eager bloggers blow embargo).
Yea, that's what makes it hard to believe, the spy photographers get everything these days, has Ford been testing it at area 51 or something?? :ninja:
I just hope it is AWD capable.
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I dunno, sixty degree V vs. 90 degree V, looking at the Mustang bay, the tight spot seems to be between the heads and the wheel wells, which is presumably where you would need the turbo plumbing to go.
Actually in the press pics looking down at the engine you can actually see the frame rails, looks to be a lot more room than before, I'm sure they could fit turbos below the exhaust on the sides of the block.
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The Coyote heads were packaged for GDI if the decision were made.
Good to know, a 12.5 to 1 comp pump gas 5.0 sounds damn good to me!
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Focus is at 35 mpg hwy now.
Main impactors on highway mpg are:
aerodynamics
rolling resistance
engine efficiency at low to mid RPM
driveline loss
Aero improves with the new Foxus body (or so I've heard)
rolling resistance might go down a smidge
TiVCT will improve the operating efficiency of the 2.0L I4 at part throttle, GDI can be tuned for some additional efficiency gain
Remember, Focus is supposed to get the 6 speed powershift. That will reduce driveline loss and improve gearing.
All of that combined could take the Focus to maybe 38 mpg highway.
Could make a bigger difference in the city, especially if they can get start/stop on it too.
I can't see the weight going down any though.
As for performance, GDI and TiVCT will broaden out the torque curve on the 2.0L and offer good, solid torque off the line. +10 hp and +10 torque over this year seems a reasonable expectation.
Talk about low expectations!!
You could find 10 horsepower in 10 minutes on a dyno with a good tuner, that wouldn't be worth the cost and complexity of the new technologies. Just look at what TiVCT alone did for the D37 in the Mustang, hell my ancient 2.0L Zetec in my Focus made 130 like 12 years ago! An all new engine, with an optimized intake, head, exhaust plus TiVCT and DI should make around 180 easy. The few mods they did to the Zetec for the SVT Focus added 40 horsepower to the engine, that was with nothing but old school hot rod tech, better flowing head, exhaust, intake, and slightly more compression. A state of the art engine, designed decades later, with lower friction, windage, and parasitic drag should be way way above that, now add TiVCT AND direct injection and anything less than 180 would be embarrassing. If it put out the same Hp/per Liter as the TiVCT 3.7 it would make 164 horsepower, now add DI and 180 seems just about right, and in a very conservative tune.
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An RS Focus with FWD would be as useless as a FWD SHO, good for burnouts, but not much else..
And Dean, this revoknuckle you're so fond of does not rid a car of the negatives of FWD, it only is a band-aid for torque steer.
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Lincoln needs something that has good MPG and to match up with the BMW 1 Series.
I don't see how a FWD 4 pot eco-car could in any way match up to a 1 series...?
Next Ford Explorer with Lincoln-esque grille caught in LA
in Ford Motor Company Discussion Forum
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Could be, the thing was porpoising all over the place