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Maverick is made by Ford which has been around for a century, plus as you say it is either ICE or Hybrid which accounts for well over 90% of truck sales, so Slate is not comparable at all in my opinion. If it fails due to low demand and sales, assuming it makes it to market in the first place, we won’t actually know to what degree being small, 2-door, simple, or relatively cheap was responsible for failure. That would just be conjecture. As of today not many buyers are purchasing BEV pickups, in part because they are more expensive than equivalent ICE or HEV, but also because they don’t make as much sense. Pickups in general have much higher energy consumption per driven mile and the Slate is no different. Target efficiency is only around 3 miles per kWh, which is not great given its size and weight. A Lucid sedan which is much larger and heavier is up to 5 miles per kWh, highlighting that pickup trucks poor aerodynamics does make a difference. In my opinion 150 miles of range under ideal conditions won’t go over well when a buyer can choose a Maverick for same price (excluding $7,500 Slate tax credit). AM222 makes a valid point, and if Slate was ICE built by Ford like an early Ranger, or Toyota built an early Tacoma, with MSRP around $20k, then we would know a lot more about how much cheapness buyers are willing to buy.
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In fairness, just look at Ford F-Series first quarter sales data which make it clear that being “electric” is enough to limit sales significantly, given that Lightning is otherwise pretty much the same size, has same number of doors, etc. yet only accounts for a few percent of total sales. Some will argue that weak Lightning sales are due to higher cost, but same applies to Slate if tax credit is not included.
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The upcoming Slate pickup/SUV is like an EV version of a pre-2000s entry-level model. The base model is an actual base model. If this were an ICE model its $25K-$27K estimated base price would probably be under $20K, the base price of the Maverick a few years ago. Traditional pickups are just getting too expensive everywhere in general. -
Slate is promising but an effective hook always tells people what they want to hear.
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By DeluxeStang · Posted
A mid engine mustang is more natural than a mid-engine Corvette. Not only have both nameplates had their fair share of mid-engine concepts, the mustang came into this world for the first time as a mid-engine car. I know some people aren't on board with this idea, and I get it, it's radical, it's expensive, it's a risk. But when I hear Ford wants to offer additional mustang body styles, a mid-engine mustang is one of the natural, and most captivating ideas. It seems like other young people agree, every time almost that Ford does these students competitions, there's at least one mid-engine proposal. What if the GTD is Ford dipping their toe in the water, seeing how people react to the idea of a mustang supercar that's 6 figures? If people respond well, it could encourage Ford to move forward with a more radical mid-engine mustang on a new platform. A high profit margin, highly evocative vehicle that sits at the top of the mustang pyramid. The mach-e was the trial by fire for us mustang fans, it was basically the hardest pill we would have to swallow in terms of something being far removed from a traditional mustang. Now that we've accepted that, I don't want Ford to just give up on the idea when we've already had to stomach the hardest part of it. -
By DeluxeStang · Posted
It's kinda like how a lot of people give the maverick a hard time because it has the very attributes they asked for. Like it's a cheap small truck and people hate on it because the bed is small, or because the interior has some cheap materials. I just don't get some people man. -
Not sure if completely on topic, but I'm curious to see how the new Slate truck does. It checks all the boxes for all the comment sections/forum people that don't want all the "useless" stuff and want a basic/simple/cheap ride. I'm interested because someone finally is doing it, but I'm betting most of the ones clamoring for it will still find a reason to not buy new and wait it out until it's even cheaper used. Maverick has done well on the ice/hybrid version of affordable so maybe they're on to something. Their presentation was a little sketchy, but so was every other start ups first time in the spot light so................. who knows, something to watch anyway. -
By The Handler · Posted
Somebody I knew from high school got killed at a red light. He was 23. I think he was engaged, too. There's more important things in life than risking your life on one of those things. -
By The Handler · Posted
The era of cheap money appears to be coming to an end so it will be interesting to see how they adjust. -
It happened once on my 2005 Mustang in 13 years. It has not happened on my 2018 Mustang. It has happened once with my brother’s Bronco.
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